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Re: Understanding my mother
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 11:12:38 AM »
Yes! that is a perfect description of my mother. 

It is a tremendous help, a freeing to read it in words written by someone who has devoted their professional life to understanding.  It is validating in a powerful way.


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Re: Understanding my mother
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2008, 09:31:47 PM »
Was at my mother's again today.  I have learned so much from her sitter, Lo. 

Here's an example of my M's typical Passive/Aggresive behavior.  I'm in the kitchen - 2 rooms away and she's at her computer and calls out, "GS, look at me!  I need you to change this ink cartridge!"  I respond, "I'm working on something.  You can come in here or I will be there in a minute when I am done." 

"Look at me" is a way to get me to stop what I am doing and move to her.  The other day the car window was broken out of her brand new car.  I was driving her to the auto glass place.  When I was parking she tried to hand me her handicapped placard to hand on her mirror.  My hands were full and I was busy.  "Mom, my hands are full, just hang it on the mirror."  So obvious, so subtle, so small and insignificant.  Who can complain about such small things? such small things that go on one after the other, over and over, and over.

Lo continues to tell me about my mother's backstabbing and degrading comments about my mothering.  My mother apparently feels sorry for my son when I discipline him.  The other day she was criticizing me to Lo saying that I was too hard on my little boy in ways such as requiring him to take his dishes to the kitchen and requiring him to clean up his toys.

Lo has never seen a mother be so mean to her own daughter.  She is also astonished at how differently my mother treats my brothers.  But more than any of these things the most difficult things about my mother by far is the pathological lieing.  For instance, she will say one thing to Lo and then just minutes later lie to me about the very same thing right in front of Lo who knows that she is lieing - no qualms.  She lies about significant and insignificant alike to the point that it is impossible to know what the truth is.  The only person she responds to is my oldest brother.  So when I learned the other day that she had been lieing about an arrangement with a financial advisor I told her that my brother and I would be setting up an appointment with her and with us to accomplished what she said she had done a year ago.  If I had confronted her without bringing my brother into it she would have simply continued to lie about it.  She told Lo later that she was going to do what she had said she would do before my brother got back to town in a week.  I don't believe her but either way I am still setting up that appointment.

I could go on and on and on and just touch on some of the stuff she has done in the last couple of days but the real point of all of this was that I had this eye opening experience once again that really shined a light on how her  treatment towards me left me expecting to be mistreated, belittled, left out and put down.  I could see - like a child's wooden puzzle how her cruelty led me to expect to be betrayed and excluded by others.  Expect to be excluded and rejected and you will be.

It is so validating to have Lo stand there week after week and shake her head over my mother's behavior, especially her behavior towards me.  This is the first time ANYONE has ever seen what I have experienced and even more she hears what my mother says behind my back.  Until now I only knew my mother was talking about me behind my back by the results of what was happening around me.  She worked hard and effectively to turn people against me all my life.  Hard to image for me - as a mother - how anyone could give birth to a baby and then work systematically to destroy that soul throughout the baby's life.  Hard to imaging - even though that baby was me.

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Re: Understanding my mother
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2008, 09:49:40 AM »
As shocking as it all is, Lo's confirmation of all this is a great gift to you, I think, GS.  Just reading these details, I could feel the shift from the realm of "it feels like this is happening and has been happening forever..."   to...
"wow, it really is just as I've always sensed and now I finally have validation!"

It's gotta result in the stangest mixture of fury and relief... hard to process that combo.
But I'm very glad for you to have this witness!

Love,
Carolyn

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When I have to be with my mother, I have a full-day litany of what and whom she "hates." I despise that word so much that I have taken it out of our home vocabulary. She hates anyone who looks at her wrong, she hates people in the other political party, she hates the heads of football teams, she hates certain actresses... I could go on and on. She spends so much time categorizing everyone into the "hate it" or "love it" bunch that she has no time to really appreciate it. She just has to make certain that SHE has given or taken away approval.

That rings an entire chorus of bells for me.
Beth, I can remember being that way.... only knowing what I didn't like and feeling compelled to express it. Yes, compelled.. almost irresistable.

Now I think that was because my mother is so full of that sort of hatred, usually held in and unexpressed (but fully sensed by me and absorbed, as though I was a sponge for it) that the only way I could feel real was to put it outside of myself. At some level, I think that I've always sensed - - what makes her so miserable is that she holds it all in and works so hard at keeping up appearances of being angelic. Whew, that was some rough expression of what I can't even fully articulate now, but... thanks, Beth. You've brought to attention a very old missing piece of the puzzle.

Love,
Carolyn

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Re: Understanding my mother
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2008, 06:29:02 PM »
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"wow, it really is just as I've always sensed and now I finally have validation!"

It's gotta result in the stangest mixture of fury and relief... hard to process that combo.
But I'm very glad for you to have this witness!

Yes Carolyn, You've got it.  It is great to have validation.  I am surprised by the power of it because I have already known it but to hear another person validate it is remarkably powerful, perhaps even moreso because in my family if i complained as a child I was met with why my perspective was wrong or why I deserved it or some form of gaslighting (which is what my mother does to this day).

You hit the nail on the head with "mixture of fury and relief".  It certainly is a relief but I am in a rage today.  I know why.  I know exactly where I am, I am a child again fully reexperiencing those kick in the stomach pains.

Thanks for your support.  I am very glad to have the witness too.  It is profound for me.  Hope it continues to release more and more.

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Re: Understanding my mother
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2008, 07:29:51 PM »
GS I am catching up and have missed your topic before now.  It is incredible to have Lo there to finally tell you the inside truth.  It must take you from feeling paranoid (suspecting you are being talked about) to feeling free.

I completely understand about the small things all the time.  This was the function I fulfilled for my dad.  I had absolutely no authority with him, as far as knowing about his doctors, emergency numbers, medications, etc. - he would keep me in the dark and control the information.  There is no way, no way in hell, he would every cooperate or negotiate with me even for his own well-being - our last blowout was about exactly that very issue and he threw me out (because I was cleaning his place and exhorting him to hire a helper, exactly like Lo - and he was terribly terribly deathly offended by me).

But everything we did together - down to the handicapped tag for the rearview - I have had exactly the same experience - he must direct me to do it.  I have followed behind him with the grocery cart while he chooses fruits and literally throws them over his shoulder.  Little things ALL the time.  I completely, utterly understand about being betrayed and excluded.  And the ones who do it believe completely in their own self-righteousness too.  And I have to say that over time, as I came to believe it was my fate, I contributed.  I became gruff and maybe even surly in effect saying 'I know you will trash me and I'm showing you I don't care.  Do your worst as I know you will.'  It took a long time to gradually grow out of that and maybe it's not over yet.

I really, really hear you and feel for you.

Must go - baby care!
Character, which has nothing to do with intellect or skill, can evolve only by increasing our capacity to love, and to become lovable. - Joan Grant