Meyers Briggs/inconsistent stuff

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http://www.sharedpaths.com/personality-type/myers-briggs-personality-type-7.html

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http://speakingofmbti.blogspot.com/2008/02/in-grip-stress-and-mbti.html

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator



THIS one has much information... hope it goes through.

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Lighter, I'm not absorbing too much right now, but this looks interesting... and makes sense, I think.

But I got sidetracked by this link on the first site ~  http://www.sharedpaths.com/ice-cream-for-the-soul/index2.html

Thanks for the info!  I will try again when I'm more absorbent.

Carolyn

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Take your time, Carolyn.... I'm just abuzz with questions tonight.

This article is for parents.

I have one sensor and one intuitior.

I'm trying to find more info on the "grip."

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Appreciating Differences
Can You See what I See?
This column, written by Jack Falt on personality types is a regular feature of Energy Medicine. It was first published August 2001, Volume 3, Issue 6. See the previous articles on this site that describe the meaning of the four dimensions of behaviour that personality type measures.
The second dimension of personality looks at how children take in information, either through the five senses (Sensing) or using the sixth sense (Intuiting). Children learn about the world through their senses. Sensing children continue to focus on the stimulation of the outer world or on memories of past experiences. Intuitive children also experience the sensations from the world around them, but then try to understand the world in terms of patterns, possibilities and meanings.

Sensing children may have a collection of prized possessions: baseball cards, model cars, Lego blocks, etc. Intuitive children may also have a prized collection, but it is likely to be more eclectic, consisting of a wide assortment of objects that have a special meaning for them.

Intuitors can be rather imaginative and are more likely to be the ones that see pictures in the clouds. Sensors are likely to be more observant as they focus on the details around them. Of course, all children are subject to that blindness that makes it impossible for them to see their homework that is sitting right there in front of them on the kitchen table.

In school Sensors like to be told the specific requirement for assignments. The Intuitors are more open to doing an assignment in their own unique way. When told to create something in art, Sensors want to know just what the teacher expects. Intuitors can happily produce something quite unique without a lot of instruction.

At playtime Sensors are more likely to use a toy as it was intended. Intuitors can play make believe with any toy. When playing board game Sensors want to follow the “official” rules. Intuitors are more likely to want to make up their own rules or invent a new game all together. Sensors want lots of action in their play. Intuitors are more likely to talk about what they are going to do and how they are going to play. Sensors can get bored and turned off by something that is too inactive. Have you ever tried to explain rules to a bunch of fidgety kids?

Both Sensors and Intuitors may like sports. Sometimes Sensors are better at the sport because they are more totally in their bodies, while the Intuitors are often more in their heads.

It is fun to watch young children at play when they are using their imagination. Intuitors can more easily develop a fantasy world. Sensors can play pretend too, but they are more likely to create characters they are more familiar with such as cops and robbers.

When Sensors and Intuitors play together they may be in conflict because the Sensor wants to play by the rules while the Intuitor wants to try out something different.

With young children, parents help them learn about the physical world around them. Parents see that there is lots of physical stimulation, including colour, sound and textures. As the child gets older there is more emphasis on specific skills: walking, talking, identifying objects, etc. Intuition as a preference usually cannot be fully identified until middle childhood. All children need to be exposed to opportunities to develop their intuition. Stories of magic help to give children a sense of wonder. Asking them what they think will happen next, encourages them to use their imagination.

It will probably take you some time to determine whether your child is a Sensor or an Intuitor. They seem to switch back and forth between acting like a Sensor or an Intuitor. They have the capacity to do both. Preference just means which one is the one they tend to use the most. There are about three Sensors for every Intuitor. Elementary school is geared mainly for Sensors. University is geared more for Intuitors. This is not to say that Sensors can’t go on to university. They can and they do. But they will have to exercise their Intuitive function more at university and their school experience may not have prepared them too well to meet this challenge. High school is probably more of a middle ground. Intuitors need to have the opportunity to have free rein to use their imaginations and Sensors need to be challenged and assisted to develop their intuition.

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Appreciating Differences
Are They To Sensitive or Too Analytical?
This column, written by Jack Falt on personality types is a regular feature of Energy Medicine. It was first published on line October 2001, Volume 4, Issue 1. See the previous articles on this site that describe the meaning of the four dimensions of behaviour that personality type measures.
Why would two children react differently to the same situation? A mother of two girls was waiting at the bottom of the stairs to take her daughters to a recital. Nancy was first down and mother noted that Nancy’s bow was a bit crooked and told her so. Nancy just went over to the mirror and adjusted it. Then Melanie came down and her bow was crooked also. When her mother pointed out the problem, she was flabbergasted when Melanie cried, “You don’t love me.”

Children like adults seem to approach the world in one of two ways: as Thinkers or Feelers. Thinkers react and make decisions based on logic while Feelers react and make decision based on values. As a parent you can avoid quite a bit of stress if you figure out where you are coming from yourself, and which of these two dimensions of behaviour your child prefers. (If you have two or more children, you are likely to have at least one of each.)

Children use both Thinking and Feeling but as they develop they tend to focus on one more than the other. In times of stress they usually use their preferred one. When there is a problem and you handle it the right way, it is likely you used the method that is also your preferred one. Since your partner may have an opposite preference, that is why he or she can often deal with another child better than you can. However, if you are aware of your child’s preference, you can learn the strategy that works best with that preference, even if it is not your personal strength.

Thinking children are good at analysing the facts of a situation and can’t resist offering a solution to any problem that comes their way. They are better at explaining a problem than saying how they feel about it. “Why,” is always the first question they ask. (Saying, “Because I said so,” is like waving a red flag at them.) They want to follow the rules and are indignant when someone breaks a promise. If they don’t feel competent in any situation, they can get quite upset; and when they do get upset, the last thing they want to do is to talk about their feelings. Being truthful is very important and they can be rather blunt.

Feeling children are very sensitive and experience strong emotional reactions to anything negative about themselves or others. They need to work through their emotions before they can deal with the problem. Harmony is more important than being confrontational. They may have physical reactions such as stomachaches to negative situations. Even constructive criticism can be hurtful to them. They are concerned about how decisions will affect others as well as themselves. They need to know that people like them before they can perform well.

Jenny came home crying, “Rebecca is moving away.” Her Thinking dad tried to comfort her by saying, “Don’t worry. You’ll find new friends.” Jenny stormed off into the house. Dad is standing there wondering, “What did I do wrong?” Jenny is probably a Feeler, at least at the moment, and getting her to express her feelings would have been more helpful. Then she is more open to suggestions, or better yet to some joint problem solving. Maybe preparing for a little going away party would ease the pain over the loss of her friend.

Paul came home from school very angry and almost ready to burst into tears. His mother tried to comfort him by saying, “It’s OK, honey. Let me give you a hug and you’ll feel better.” Paul pulled away and ran outside, yelling, “You don’t understand!” Mom followed after him and asked, “Do you want to tell me about.” With that, Paul told about how he was to have a turn at bat and that some bully pushed in ahead of him; and then recess was over. After he got his story out, Paul calmed down.

With all the variations of Thinking and Feeling situations, it can get complicated for parents. No child is 100% one or the other all the time. Be prepared to go in either direction. Ask your children if they want a hug. If they say no and seem to back away, ask if they would like to tell you about what happened. Often this two pronged approach is enough to get the communication going.

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ISTJ STRESS


http://www.personality-power-for-everyday-living.com/istj-stress.html

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ISFJ STRESS



http://www.personality-power-for-everyday-living.com/isfj-stress.html

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Basics of your type.

I'm and INFP.

Still looking for INFP in the "grip" information.


http://www.personality-power-for-everyday-living.com/words-to-describe-personality.html#awareness

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November

Elsewhere in this Newsletter, Shirley Tilden has summarized the 2001 Annual OAAPT Conference. Paul Huschilt presented a version of the following story to close the conference. The story allegorically summarizes the proceedings of the conference. What really took place at OAAPT 2001 'In the Grip' Conference lies perhaps, somewhere between Shirley's summary, and Paul Huschilt's entertaining tale.

This story is dedicated to Doris Lowell and Linda Orme, co-chairs of the 2001 Annual OAAPT Conference, for their tireless efforts which made the conference a success. It is also dedicated to Naomi L Quenk, our 2001 plenary presenter, for being such a good sport at her conference on stress, and for agreeing to be included in the following remounted classic.

Snow White and The 7 Dorises

Once upon a time, there was a young woman who was more fair than the driven STJs. She was quite sure about her own virtues. Her stepmother (INTJ) knew all too well how fair her step-daughter was. She had lived with Snow White's innate qualities since the girl had been 13 years old, and almost totally undifferentiated. They lived together in a great castle, on the edge of a dark forest.

Snow White was 28 years old and unattached. She was home again after a stint at a prestigious university where she got a Ph.D. so she could get other things she wanted.

One day, Snow White's stepmother stood in the hall and asked a great mirror, “Mirror, Mirror on the wall, whose the fairest of them all?” In the silence that followed, the mirror showed a slight preference for introversion. Its shiny surface steamed as it thought out its answer to this troubling question.

Then, the mirror spoke:

'T's are fairest I would say
Whether 'T' is coupled with 'P' or 'J'.
But still there is one who is not a 'T'
Who is fairer still than you or me.
Snow White is the one that I can see
And she is an 'I', 'N', 'F' and 'P'.


Snow White's step-mother, grew instantly green with envy. Her extroverted dominant function fell still. It was dumbfounded. Her introverted auxiliary lodged in her throat. Her tangled tertiary dangled like burned out Christmas lights about her beleaguered aura. In the little psychic space left over, Snow White's stepmother slid into the grip of her inferior function.

She projected her inferior extroverted sensing function in the form of an amateur rendition of a Gilbert & Sullivan patter song, which on any other day, in any other instant in fact, her intact persona would have dismissed as trivial, beneath her, an 'NF' activity even.

Snow White's stepmother sang:

(Sung to I am the very model of a modern Major General, from The Pirates of Penzance.)

I am the very model of a dominant intuitive
My introverted nature makes me a quiet one with whom to live
Decisive not divisive, my opinion I will duly give
When I am feeling centered in my head, which is the place I live.


Now in the hall this mirror tall has told me I am not most fair
If that's not gall, I am appalled, with an NFP I am compared
Snow White is right and fair it said announcing with finality
I'll whip her with a whip-like quip pronouncing her fatality!


As Snow White, virtuous INFP, heard her stepmother's whip-like quip, (from which she felt duly ripped), she slid into the grip of her own inferior function, exiting the castle as she did so.

Snow White, (INFP) ran into the shadowy forest without a map, and even less of a sense of direction. She ran and she ran and she ran and she ran, until she was in the darkest part of the forest - the part of the forest that Jung would have referred to as her own shadow - and, which Freud would have referred to as her father's shadow.

She ran and she and she ran and she ran through the darkest part of the forest. Before she knew it, she was running down Dixie Road in Mississauga, a city with a strong preference for 'S'. (Mississauga.) Without knowing why, she ran into the Stage West Theatre and Hotel Complex. She ran into the Algonquin Room and into OAAPT's 'In the Grip' Conference.

As she entered, the guest speaker rose, stood at the front, and spoke. Snow White could not believe her eyes. It was none other than Naomi Quenk (INFP) Ph..D, also 28, but who lied about her age to get more speaking engagements.

Welcome to “In the Grip, Type and the Inferior Function” said Naomi Quenk with the authority of having spoken those words in Oslo, and perhaps Peru. “Your inferior is not your shadow,” she began, as the sensing delegates glanced nervously over their shoulders taking in the import of these words. “No, no,” she added, “Your inferior is the popsicle stick, your shadow is the popsicle.”

“Ohhhh” said the delegates.

“Now take 5 minutes, and introduce yourselves at your tables,” said Naomi Quenk, INFP, Ph.D..

As fate would have it, Snow White found herself sitting at a table with 7 Dorises (ESFJ). At Snow White's table, there was Doris, Co-chair of the Annual OAAPT Conference, beside herself 7 times over from the stress of having done such a wonderful job attending to the myriad of details to pull the conference off, seemingly without a hitch.

Before anybody could slip into the grip, it was lunch time. All of the delegates, gathered around the buffet table to feast on the bottom half of sandwiches.

After lunch, Naomi Quenk, (INFP), Ph.D. divided the group into type-alike groups. Snow White joined a table of INFPs, while the 7 Dorises dispersed to their own type-alike type table.

Write your triggers, your grip experiences, what helps, what hinders, and what knowledge you gained” commanded Naomi Quenk, (INFP) Ph.D. getting a little too sure of herself to still appear authentically INFP. And so, gentle reader, the groups set to work, to the discord of conflicting preferences. They filled the room with what, in polite company is often referred to, as noise.

Before break, the group heard from the single ESTJ present at the conference. He summarized the essence of ESTJs so succinctly proving what many suspected but had never voiced, “One ESTJ is all you ever need.” The INFPs present were so taken by his presentation that they extended him an offer to become an honorary INFP, (an invitation he politely declined).

After the break, the INTJs presented their type in the form of a heart-felt sing-a-long song.

(Sung to Eidelweiss)

Verse 1
Don't give me advice
Don't give me advice
Don't give me advice when I'm gripping.


If you give me advice, I might slap you twice
Don't give me advice when I'm gripping


Then, all of the delegates sang the chorus in unison.

All:
Shut your mouth up but don't leave me alone.
Don't leave me alone, not ever.


Don't give me advice
Don't give me advice
Don't give me advice when I'm gripping.


Verse 2
For the sake of your life, when you talk to your wife
To your spouse, to your child, or your loved one.


Don't give them advice, or you'll pay the price
They have slipped in the grip, coming undone.


CHORUS
Shut your mouth up but don't leave me alone.
Don't leave me alone, not ever.


So take my advice, and don't give advice
If you want to live longer than never.


The ENFJs present were so moved by the INTJs display, that they cancelled their own presentation and sang Kumbaya instead. Several INTPs sat at the bank, singing, “Blah blah blah, I'm bored, blah blah blah. Blah blah blah, I'm bored, blah blah blah ...”

At day's end, Snow White gathered her stress balls and proceeded to the Wine and Cheese reception hosted by the board of directors, along with the 7 Dorises (ESFJ). When Snow White entered the reception, the 7 Dorises still slightly stressed, handed her a tray of sausage triangles and cheese, saying, “Eat this and nobody gets hurt.”

The next morning, everything that was supposed to happen, happened but not at the right time. The Master of Ceremonies, who was trying to keep things on schedule, slid into the grip.

As the conference wound down, most of the delegates returned home happy; happy that they had not volunteered for the board. For the two or three that did volunteer for the board, their tertiary functions began to hum. Their inferiors were set to pop.

Sensing it unwise to return home to the palace, Snow White, stepped into the parking lot of the Stage West Hotel and entertainment complex. As she did, she noticed the artist formerly known as Prince, slip out of a limousine and through the stage door of the Stage West Theatre Complex. Snow White, a fan from way back, followed him closely.

As the curtain rose over a sea of blue rinse, Snow White, sitting in the fourth row, looked up at the artist formerly known as Prince. His performance in Alan Ayckbourn's hit What we do for Love, was brilliant. Snow White watched, imagining what her life might look like if he, the artist formerly known as Prince, were to play a central role.

As the second act of What we do for Love sprang into play, Naomi Quenk, (INFP) Ph.D. approached airport security with a live stress ball in her OAAPT bag - but that is another story.

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Paul Huschilt is a professional speaker, storyteller and facilitator. He lectures on the benefits of humour in the workplace, and distills the events at conferences into entertaining one-man performances. He can be reached at .

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Tilting at windmills.... Oh Hops.

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