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Izzy_*now*

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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 05:22:14 PM »
Izzy,

My primary purpose has been to help me and others here who seem open to it.  Could you clarify what you've just implied?

bean

Bean,

I send you my sincere apologies after I re-read your post #12 with all the older posts. I saw that you had mailed to Dr. Grossman. As I went down the list I began to think of separate mailings, but they were all in one?????

That being the case I was wrong and hope you accept my apology.

Sincerely
Izzy
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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 05:27:54 PM »
How have you "Seen" that Bean has been PMing and what in the world does it matter to you?


Good point.

to Shame Slayer
It might be more fair for you to await bean's request for understanding of my post than for you to become involved with an argumentative statement.

To Gabben
I would have thought you to be smarter than to fall into SS's trap of snarkiness. Have neither of you no patience to await bean's request for clarification????

This is how misunderstandings and fights begin. I expect you to respond to this that both of you were too hasty in posting/looking for a fight!

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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2008, 05:38:09 PM »
As well I see that bean has been PMing more often than posting on the board and trying to get to know people.

Dear Izzy,

I do not wish to gang up on you with SS. No, however, I did rather agree with what she pointed out.

This comment from you above is a flame throwing comment, an instigator as well as a judgement. Yet, SS and myself did not make you wrong for saying it or speaking it or using your voice. On the contrary, we were just questioning your conviction of comtempt regarding bean without giving bean a fair trial.

It is as if others will read your words here and then assume a potential lie about bean?

If you were to read where bean is at in her personal life, you would see that she has just been through the emotional ringer with her bully employer and has not has much emotional stuff to give here. Now, she is currently on leave from work with some time to give to the board.

Hopefully that bares some light?

Lise

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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2008, 05:54:35 PM »
Gabben

I find this post unnecessary, as I have apologized to bean, and explained why? Did you read that?

Please await bean's response!

Izzy
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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2008, 06:10:42 PM »
Thank you bean,

I am happy that you understood my explanation and more than pleased that you accept my apology.

I think we are an example of straightening out something before it became a volcano. I am glad you asked for clarification.

Thank you, again
Izzy
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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2008, 06:16:58 PM »
Hi Bean,

I have done many hours of work on this issue since our communication in December.  As you probably know, I have real time access to where everyone on the board moves from second to second.  I also have access to IP address—often that indicates what company/service people are using.  I also know that the major U.S. providers (Comcast, Verizon, Roadrunner, Bell South, etc.) would not allow people to use their IP addresses as free proxies—(there are, however, other US proxies).  Let us take a situation where two people move on the message board to two different places at the exact same second.  Let us suppose one is using one major provider, and the other, another major provider.  Let us also assume that one line shows up as a DSL line in a particular state and one line shows up as a cable connection in another state.   Even if you could explain through some ingenious strategy how someone managed to wrestle a proxy out of a major provider, the person would have to 1) guess randomly that I was watching their movement on the site at that very moment, 2) have two computers, and 3) manage to land on two different places on the Board at the very same moment—all to fool me (who is probably not watching) into thinking they were indeed two different people.  (If they tried this repeatedly, of course, the pairing would show up in the logs, and I would become suspicious—it hasn’t)  In my estimation, the odds of such a scenario happening is close to nil.  That is why I said I was “certain” of the unique identities of the people in question.

Best,

Richard

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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2008, 07:03:12 PM »
Dear Richard,
 Your use of the word "certainty" was MY  problem in the interchange, also. It opened me up to people's ridicule in a way that a less definite word ,from you, would not have(IMO) .     Ami
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 08:07:38 PM by Ami »
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Re: Had Enough!
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2008, 12:01:06 AM »
Hi Bean,

I answered your questions in a new topic.

Best,

Richard