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Lupita

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For OC, my self, and anybody who relates to this.
« on: July 16, 2008, 10:52:29 AM »
My therapist told me that the reason I want to stay connected to my mother and choose not to go NC is because I have not given up hope that one day she will change and I will be the little girl I wanted to be all my life and she will protect me and love me.

That is not going to happen.

The moment that I can convence my self, not that I do not need it, I can need it, but I have to convence my slef that I am OK without it, I am OK if I do not get it, wich I will not, and I hace survived without it and I will survivie without and I am safe because I can protect my self, because I am an adult, in that moment I will have a better life and will be more content with my existence.

You do not need what you do not have. You are OK without what you have not had for such a long time, an entire life. And you are OK and I am OK and we can survive and be safe without it.

What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 10:58:11 AM »
(((((((( Lupita ))))))))


I can only share from my very own experience in that choosing to go ' No Contact '  with my mother - CHANGED my life completely - to the good, now, I have a LIFE and INNER peace, and deep contentment.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 10:05:22 PM »
Dear Lupita
 I understand the pain of what you are saying. It hurts so,so badly. I have been studying Alice Miller ,which seems to help . We sure got in the wrong line when they were passing out mothers!                Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 10:44:18 AM »
Thankk you Ami and Lea for your responses.

My mother is coming, I asked her to visit. My therapist said, why why why why, do you want a toxic person around you?

Then she said that it is the hope that has not died in my to have a mother. Until I kill that hope I will not have peace.

She is coming and even before she arrived she already casued me a lot of stress and pain.

I have to force my self that next year there is no mother trip, no visit, I have to comply next year. I am going to program my self so I do not get involved in this again.

My poor mother is a lost casued.

I have to give up, just cant, it is very sad.


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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 12:55:35 PM »
I know that my mom would try to change if she would ever accept the facts and realities.  She is in denial so much that she does not even acknowledge wrong doing.  So from that perspective, I cannot hope she will change.  She does not think she needs to change.  However, she has changed.  Over the course of the years she has had to change because we as a whole family no longer march to her drum. 

Plus I see her doing EXACTLY what my grandfather did.  She is getting Alzheimer's and won't admit it so I just sit back and watch her slowly slide.  Eventually she will slide out....
Kelly

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 11:26:53 AM »
My mother is coming this Saturday. She again is doing what I know ashe is going to do. She bought a ticket for a sunday knowing that I work in a church on sundays. Then after several days I relized that the ticket was sunday and told her that she had to change it. Then she said that she would have to give the ticket to somebody else, I said I have to wortk on sundays and she knew it, we have talked about that a million times, about my work in the church, she knew. She said but I snet you the dates and you said OK. I said, you sent amistake to see if I cought it, and if I dont catch it I am screwed and if I do you have to ahcnge it and have to pay for the change, no matter what, she makes it look that I did something wrong. So I wrote her back telling how bad I fetl that she had to pay more moeny for the change but that was the correct thing to do. She did not write me back for three days, until day I have not recieved e mail form here and she usually writes everyday. That is the way she always has punished me, with emotional abandonement, That is why I am so screwed in my heart.
I will do my best to skip next year, I have to start detaching really really detaching from her. She is ad news.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 01:18:40 PM »
What hit me,Lupita, is the worse the parent is, the MORE we cling to them.I am sorry, Lupita. I understand.             Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 01:30:24 PM »
Think about what you are doing well Lupita.  You are catching on to what your mother is doing.  You see her for what she is.  That is a huge first step.  See her for what she is.  She sabotaged you with by traveling on Sunday and then blamed you for not telling her to change it right away.  She put all her responsibility on you.

How did she do that to you when you were a child? 

It is painful.  I lived it too.  I am looking at my current pain and tracing it back to my childhood.  When I do that I am getting release from the pain. 

This will be a different visit.  You are drawing boundaries and protecting yourself.  I think you will find yourself stronger and stronger after this visit.  Post often and let us walk this journey with you.  How long is she staying?

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 05:25:15 PM »
Ami, I agree with you. And then, when we grow up, the same happen with our friends and boyfriends, the worst they treat us the worst we cling to them.

SS, OMG, you just hit the nail. She put the responsibility on me and I deffended my self. I usually felt guilty but not this time, this time, I immeidately, told her that the mistake was hers, and she answerer back by ugnoring me, and not writing me.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 12:25:13 PM »
Well, she is coming this Saturday and I really hope that you guys help me to go through this, like SS sais as an experiment.

Let us see what happenes.

God bless you all.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 12:28:05 PM »
My mother is coming tomorrow. I have to be respectful, loviing and detached. I have to be detahed. Like a robot. Just like her. Just to immunize my self. Just to be able not to suffer.

Detachment!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 12:20:53 PM »
My mom is here. Believe it or not I am enforcing boudaries with her and she is moderating her behavior. She was attacking me the first three days and after several big stops, and several punishments, she is behaving, she went with me to salsa last night and behaved correctly, she got up today and we went to dunking daughnuts and she behaved correctly, and she has for the first time in my life, several hours that she is behaving correctly. I never imafined that this would happen. I say time when she starts and I say that I am not interested and behave indifferent every single time she starts something and she hasnot started anything since Friday morning. Almost 24 hours of good behavior, which has never been seen with her towards me.

I do not know how I could survived life with my mother. I am just fighting guilt. I have to keep her at a distance, geographical and emotional; detachment is so important.

It is entering in my brain and my mind that I have to give up on her, that I can detach from her and still love her and still help her if she needs it. I just have to have zero expectations from her and never ever ever need anyaproval from her, never ever need any nurture from her. It is hard but possible. I am getting there, little by little.