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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 07:36:37 PM »
Ami, mmm, the essence of what I'm saying...I'm not sure. How about this. I couldn't have read this book before because i wouldn't have understood (mind and heart) what the guy is saying. Now I understand it in both ways and can say: hello, my name is Portia and I'm a covert incest survivor (possibly an overt incest survivor but hey, i don't know about that), amongst a lot of other things that P is too (including suddenly having the urge to talk about herself in the third person, a sure sign of, er, denial/resistence/dissociation/oh I can't remember what it's a sign of except that i read it somewhere and thought oh boy I mustn't do that then, otherwise I'll be packaged and labelled before you can say 'chiller cabinet'!). And I can the effects of similar family stuff on other people around me through their romantic relationships, patterns of sexual behaviour and dysfunction.

Nism plays a big part too. Is Nism necessarily linked to intimacy wipe-outs and warped sexual behaviour? Seems to be unavoidable to me. Was I N'ic at one point, as mentioned in a case study in this book? Oh yes, to a degree, love addiction and all the rest of it. But then it's a matter of degree that makes a big difference. Does that help Ami?

Hey, I missed your gorgeous guy, but me, i don't really go for them. Gorgeous puts me right off - that's one saving grace eh? 8)

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2010, 03:17:40 PM »
Gorgeous verbally, dear Portia. :lol: :lol:                                                                   
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2010, 03:32:26 PM »
Dear Portia
 I am thinking of getting in a support group for incest survivors. I don't even know if I am one cuz what my M did may not be incest . Incest is such a horrible word and you don't want to be any where near it but I have a level of pain that other people don't seem to get and I think I need to find a population that does get it.
 One friend  got the level of pain cuz he had a  similar type of betrayal. Maybe , the worst part is the betrayal. I don't know but the pain is really bad when your M violates you in any sexual way.
         Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2010, 05:50:58 PM »
Ami, very few men I've known were gorgeous verbally!
Anyone who feels they would gain from joining a support group, I say go for it. What your M did I'd call sexual abuse. Is that incest? Does it matter? Is it physical sexual abuse or emotional sexual abuse, or both?
I guess what matters most is its effect and the pain it causes now.
I'm beginning to see that the no contact rule for those who feel such pain can be an enormous benefit.
For me, I think and feel I've worked through a lot of the sexual emotional abuse/inappropriate using 'caretaking' relationships. I understand what was going on and how it affected me and have been through a few epiphanies. If anything is locked in my head, it's not 'talking to me' now through dreams or motivations. Maybe there's nothing else there, but of course I wouldn't know.

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2010, 12:04:40 AM »
^Ami-I do think what your mom did was incest.  It's tough to admit though.


There has been great advice iand examples n this thread.  I'm going to sound religious for a second, but I'm just going to trust God and my instincts to lead me to a nice person.   :oops:

Dating without NM is a good, yet SCARY, feeling.  I don't know what I want sometimes, because NM was the one who ultimately decided who I was supposed to be with. It sounds screwed up ,but I tried to choose boyfriends that would please her!  I learned the hard way that NOBODY could please her.

If a good man were to come in my life, I'm sure NM would feel threatened and try to make him look bad.

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 08:27:57 AM »
Dear NLAS
 I married my H so my M would finally love me. I understand how you dated FOR your NM. I think you are right, Sweetie, to trust God and also your own deep knowing.
  xxxoo  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 08:33:46 AM »
Dear Friends
 I know it sounds so silly but I have such a hard time really accepting that I could be in a book for abused kids or kids molested by the mother.
 It feels like it is not me.
 The me I know did not have this happen to her.
  Do you understand what I mean?               Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 06:13:38 PM »
Hey No longer
nothing wrong with being religious or trusting that God (and your instincts!) will lead you to a nice person. Wondered why that might be 'wrong'?

Ami, the me I know was pretty screwed up from an early age - didn't see it but have pieced it together over the last few years. I looked very hard at my own behaviour, motivations, even the things that I could identify that made the 'zing' (and those things are from a mixture of people). I accept it was me and is me to an extent, but we keep changing, thank goodness! It's tough to accept but necessary I think.

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 06:23:39 PM »
Yes ,Portia acceptance is crucial!       xxxoo  Ami


PS Great thread NLAS
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: A question about who you're initially attracted to
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 08:47:29 PM »
Dear NLAS
 I feel so dirty to think I was an incest survivor. When I first retrieved the repressed memory, I did not take a bath for 3 weeks. I know that *I* am the victim and NOT dirty but I feel it.        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung