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Frustrated

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Is my co-worker a narcissist?
« on: October 30, 2004, 05:00:47 PM »
or just really really annoying?

I've been lurking here for awhile.  My parents were both definitely narcissists, and my reading here has helped me a lot.  I will post more about that later, but right now I wanted to discuss a co-worker of mine.  I've been wondering if perhaps she's actually got some form of narcissism.

"Darla" is the co-worker who's personality I am questioning.  She is very friendly, but incredibly rude and obnoxious at all times, always at the ready with a "joking insult", and oblivious to other people's boundaries.  She is incapable of sitting and concentrating on her work.  She has to be entertained constantly, and makes jokes about this fact.  She often says she comes to work for entertainment because her home life is so boring.

I am relatively quiet at work.  My job requires my full attention (I can't chat with someone and do my work at the same time - it has to be one or the other).  I enjoy the occasionally-throughout-the-day chat session with co-workers, but generally I am quiet and working.  I get along with everyone just fine, but I am the quietest one there and it might make me stand out.

Darla interrupts me constantly all day long to ask the most obnoxiously stupid questions:  Can I make some more coffee?  2 minutes later she's back with Who's banana is this? (I replied I didn't know and she proceeded to badger me as to why I didn't know).   5 minutes later she's back with Do you think Bob will mind if I eat his yogurt? 8 minutes later and its (in April) what date was President's Day (again when I replied I didn't know she pretended to be astonished that I didn't know when all the holidays fell and went on about this for 5 minutes.  I guess she believes me to be a walking calendar).  And this goes ..... on ... alll....day.  And she also throws in legitimate work-related questions.  But she never asks anyone else.  I am her self-appointed go-to girl and this girl can't go to the bathroom without interrupting me to ask if she should wash her hands too.

Either she thinks I am The Keeper Of All Knowledge, or it bothers her that I'm quietly minding my business.  She does not do this particularly annoying thing to any of my co-workers, from what I've observed.  I have no idea who she torments when I'm on vacation.

However, it isn't just me on other issues.  She has "accidentally" broken personal items of each one of her co-workers, never apologizes, and when she gets a response to the breakage like "Hey, you broke my _______" her response is always "Well I didn't do it on purpose!" I guess that makes it ok.

She is always taking other people's food out of the refrigerator and always denies it unless caught with the food right in her possession.  And then her response is "Well I thought it was mine, I thought I had brought ___ the other day."  Again no apology and she'll do it again the next day.

If a group of us is laughing and chatting and she isn't part of the conversation she will approach, every time, and ask "You guys are talkin about me, aren't you?"  This constant question was what started me wondering if narcissism was an issue here.  I have finally started responding "Yes Darla, its always about you."

And she talks constantly, to anyone she can trap.  She just will not shut up, no matter how busy you look.  I don't know if thats because she likes hearing herself talk, likes keeping others distracted from their work, or if she's just an incredibly annoying person in general.

Another co-worker of mine, who is childless and single, was approached by Darla on a Friday and asked if she was going to see a particular movie.  My co-worker responded yes, she was going to see it Saturday afternoon.  So Darla said oh great, my daughter wants to see it too, and I don't, so why don't you take her?  I'll pay.  Feeling trapped, she agreed (and later, Darla "forgot" to pay her).  She likes the girl and really didn't mind so much, but was very unhappy at the way Darla went about it.  Clearly Darla expertly set a trap, rather than just ask up front if she could help her out.  I don't understand the trap-setting mentality at all, except that Darla didn't want to risk hearing the words "No, I'd rather not."  There have been numerous other occasions where, instead of asking for what she wants and giving the other person an opportunity to respond, she sets a trap instead to insure she gets her way.

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2004, 05:23:43 PM »
I forgot to mention another fun aspect of this situation:

I try my absolute best to have no reaction to Darla, because I truly believe she is trying to get a rise outta me when she interrupts me constantly, but sometimes I am weak, and after being interrupted for the 20th time in an hour to be asked "Do you know why Dave gave me this letter?" I lose it and respond harshly "WHY DON'T YOU ASK DAVE!!"

She puts on her "wounded" face and walks away, then literally dashes into my boss' office, where the two of them whisper and giggle for five minutes.

Then, later in the week, I will be taken to task for being so "mean" to Darla.

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2004, 12:17:11 AM »
Frustrated,

Your coworker is a raging narcissist and I suspect a borderline personality as well. You might want to read about that on www.bpdresources.com.

She reminds me of coworkers I've dealt with...hmm...the person who chatters endlessly and doesn't care that you're glazing over and annoyed; the person who is rude, obnoxious, and intrusive; the person who is crazy, paranoid and manipulative. Ah, yes.

There is only one way to deal with this. Be pleasant when you can. When she is obnoxious, intrusive, etc., be very firm and assertive. You can even say, "Darla, I can't talk to you and you have to leave." You absolutely must set limits with her. If she's hurt, injured, angry, TOO BAD. If some higher-up tries to chide you, you must be firm with that person as well! Tell them that Darla is keeping you from your work and you will set limits with her.

In these situations one has to command authority. Your coworker who took her daughter to a movie was way too wimpy and should have simply said, "No."

I realize that one doesn't want to confront her to the point where she goes ballistic but that may occur and it won't be your fault. A borderline coworker has freaked out on me several times and I've survived. I'm sure you have a lot of support with all of your office mates who've had their food eaten, things stolen and broken by this loser.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2004, 10:00:30 AM »
Thanks for your input, Bunny.  I hadn't considered BPD.  The section on memory really stood out for me.  Darla will do something blatantly rude and as soon as just a few minutes later will seem to have no memory of doing any such thing (or at least she says.  hmmmm).

My current method of dealing with her, not being one good at setting limits (or rather, setting limits with HER specifically), is when she really gets it kicked in gear, I just excuse myself and go to the bathroom.  She must think I have an incredibly weak bladder.  I stay in there for 2 minutes or so and in that time she's found another victim.  I also avoid her as much as possible as well.  If I need to go to the kitchen, and I see she's in there, I'll wait till she leaves.

Others are more direct with her.  Her desk is right next to "Dave" and she'll sit there and talk his ear off.  He'll ask her politely to be quiet and she will for 2 minutes or so, then starts up again.  This contines for awhile and on one occasion, he finally blew it and yelled at her to shut the f*** up.  So she started crying and that made him feel like a real jerk.  But it worked.  She didn't say another word (to him at least) for the rest of the day.  However, then my boss comes in and sees Darla all pouty, finds out what happens, and now Dave is the bad guy.

My boss has her own issues.  She seems to have a "root for the underdog" complex or something.  The more complaints pile up about Darla, the more my boss defends her.  Its become clear to all of us no one is allowed to say anything bad about Darla.  We're hoping if we all stop complaining my boss will see things clearly for herself, eventually.  Employees will use their company credit cards for personal purchases (I review the credit card bills).  I simply go to that employee with a copy of the charges and they write a check to the company.  I've never once had a problem with anyone.  Except Darla, who argues and denies everything and won't pay.  So I pointed this out to my boss, who responded "You're just pointing that out to me because you don't like her."  Yeah?  So what's that got to do with anything?  That make it ok for her to steal?  So now I'm in a position where apparently I am supposed to ignore this, but make others reimburse their charges?  Its very frustrating for me.

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2004, 01:36:50 PM »
Hi Frustrated,

Boy oh boy, I have been in this situation and it's not good.  

What happened to me what that the N/BPD person would provoke everyone around her to the point of madness (like your coworker) and then cry on the boss's shoulder.  "I don't know WHY they don't like me!  I'm trying my best to be FRIENDLY." boo hoo.  Meanwhile, she will come and badmouth the boss to the rest of us.  

I wish I had had the guts and maturity to go in to Mr. Wimp and say, listen, maybe you are not aware of what is truly going on here.  This person is causing chaos in YOUR department, Mr. Wimp.  YOUR performance is going to suffer because OUR performance is suffering.  She says one thing and does another.  You don't have to believe me.  I understand that people such as Darla are in need of compassion, but I'm here to do the job you ask of me.  I'm not being mean, I'm just trying to point out a personnel issue.  

You may want to take a coworker with you or HR, in other words, a witness.  

I didn't go to my boss.  I kept hoping he would see the truth.  He didn't.  But his supervisors did and fired him.  They transferred N/BPD to a position of less responsibility.  This all happened after I quit.  If your workplace receives federal funding, they may not be able to fire your coworker if she has revealed some sort of "disability".  

Another thought is that your boss may be using her as his "spy" or henchman.  Just to torture the people he feels threatened by.  I hate this stuff.  But try to see your situation very very clearly and not as it "should be" but as it is.  

Good luck.  I know how frustrating it can be.  I really do.  The workplace scars are some of the ones I haven't healed yet.  Peace, seeker

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2004, 02:50:19 PM »
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My current method of dealing with her, not being one good at setting limits (or rather, setting limits with HER specifically), is when she really gets it kicked in gear, I just excuse myself and go to the bathroom.  She must think I have an incredibly weak bladder.  I stay in there for 2 minutes or so and in that time she's found another victim.


This is perfectly fine. The primary goal is for her to be bored by you and move on to someone else. There's nothing wrong with avoiding a disturbed person.



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Others are more direct with her.  Her desk is right next to "Dave" and she'll sit there and talk his ear off.  He'll ask her politely to be quiet and she will for 2 minutes or so, then starts up again.  This contines for awhile and on one occasion, he finally blew it and yelled at her to shut the f*** up.  So she started crying and that made him feel like a real jerk.  But it worked.  She didn't say another word (to him at least) for the rest of the day.  However, then my boss comes in and sees Darla all pouty, finds out what happens, and now Dave is the bad guy.


Two things: (1) she will provoke someone until they explode. Then she can be a victim. She hopes the other person will explode. The solution is to be firm with her long before you start losing it. And (2) If Dave feels like a bad guy, he needs to wake up and smell the coffee. A 2x4 is the only thing Darla understands. He made her respect him. That's all that matters!

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My boss has her own issues.  She seems to have a "root for the underdog" complex or something.  The more complaints pile up about Darla, the more my boss defends her.  Its become clear to all of us no one is allowed to say anything bad about Darla.


Sure you are allowed to say something bad about her. Don't let the boss do this to you. Tell the boss that you are only being firm to Darla, but you will be mean if you have to protect yourself.  I stand up to my boss when I have to. He is an N who demands kowtowing and wants no complaints. He's tried to stop me from standing up for myself but he can't! I'm still there to tell the tale.

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We're hoping if we all stop complaining my boss will see things clearly for herself, eventually.


Don't hold your breaths.

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So I pointed this out to my boss, who responded "You're just pointing that out to me because you don't like her."  Yeah?  So what's that got to do with anything?  That make it ok for her to steal?  So now I'm in a position where apparently I am supposed to ignore this, but make others reimburse their charges?  Its very frustrating for me.


I would let Darla and your boss get into very big trouble over this. Keep a record of these conversations in case they come in handy some day.   :twisted:

bunny