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sfalken

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A New Letter
« on: January 28, 2011, 10:42:13 PM »
Despite having set up an autoresponder to reply to my parents with a block message, I still received the following new message from my CoN father last week. Most of what he says here is absolute lies, and more laying blame on me for his own shortcomings. His tone to me, a nearly 40yr old man - is like he is speaking to an 8yr old. His words are carefully crafted and laid to manipulate. I could write a long explanation, but for those who have read some of my former posts and know some of the history, what do you think? To me it was nothing more than adding insult to injury. My only 'recent action' was to send the gifts they left for my youngest child back to them at Christmas. I have never been aggressive toward my mother, in any way. Ever.

He has completely forgotten the number of times both he and my mother beat me with a belt or smacked me around. Or the number of times I was forced to console her and tell her she 'wasnt like her mother' while she cried, after she hit me. My father is the farthest thing from a religious person that there can be. The churchy talk below is lies. His pastor friend helped him to write this. Not a single word is misspelled, and articulates himself in a way that he himself cannot alone.

What blows me away, is his description of their youths: "because my father taught me by the buckle on his belt and the back of his hand... There was never any conversation or communication with words. Mom learned by the abuse of her mother and her dad's indifference." This is the EXACT treatment I LIVED from Nmom and him. He sat indifferent while she ran wild with all of her N tendencies, and on TOP of that, he beat me when he didnt know what to do, and did not communicate with me. What an INSULT that he conveniently forgets it all now.

He and my Nmother recently sought the counsel of a pastor who - according to someone I know who knows my parents closely - told them that they owe me no apology, and that they are owed complete respect from me, and they owe me none whatsoever - because they are my parents. This was the perfect excuse for them to become larger monsters, and to feel even more justified.

I want so bad to reply, if only with a one liner that projects some deep profound meaning, and at the same time, indifference.

He sent this not only to me, but to all of his friends and many of mine at the same time, which is infuriating and embarrassing.

Have a look:
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Son,

This letter will start off on a different note. I love you as a father loves a son.

I know that your feelings toward me at this current time are not the greatest. In fact, by your recent actions, your feelings may even be to the level of hatred. One of the main contributors to your feelings may be my responses, towards what I see as aggressive behavior, towards your mother, who is my wife of 41 years.

My feelings towards your actions and behavior have always been the same. It is only recently that I have taken the stand to do the right thing that I should have done many years ago which is to love, honor and protect my wife. As well as to be a good father and teach my son that honor and respect of his parents, is a God given expectation. Many go through life without it but I respected my parents and your mom's parents, no matter what. It was taught to me by my dad.

God expects us all to be Christ like, in that we would all have a heart of forgiveness. It is, however, my responsibility to love and forgive you, for your actions, towards your mother and me.

As your father, I also, ask your forgiveness because I was in no way perfect, in the way that I raised you. Your mother and I did the best job that we could. It has resulted in hurt and pain. You don't get a practice round to being a parent, as you well know, having three children of your own. One of the things that I failed to teach you was how to respect your parents and your elders. I chose to be easy on you because my father taught me by the buckle on his belt and the back of his hand. I didn't want to do that to you. There was never any conversation or communication with words. Mom learned by the abuse of her mother and her dad's indifference. Your parents are also responsible for teaching you to treat people kindly, to be gracious, and to be appreciative of other's sacrifices, and to communicate with other's to the best of their ability. This was something that I never was taught to do, use my words. When you were growing up our love for
you outweighed our responsibility to properly discipline you for your disrespectful words toward us as parents. We treated you as a friend, or close to an equal not OUR CHILD.

We now understand that discipline is part of love. Because we didn't teach you this when you were young, you may not understand or accept what I am trying to tell you now. But I must ask your forgiveness because I failed you in this area. I forgive grandpa, thankfully, but realized in the end that he was probably right to be rough.

As a result of my failure to teach you this as a child, I can understand where we are today. Sure, I agree with you that your mother and I can at times not be exactly what you want us to be. But I can also assure you that our actions toward you are completely out of love. We want to have a healthy relationship with you, but it seems there are differences in what each of us feel a healthy relationship is.

So what I am trying to say is that your mother and I would like to have a healthy relationship with you, but I also cannot accept your current behavior as part of that relationship. I apologize for the things that I have done wrong in the past. I cannot apologize for you or be responsible for your actions, anymore. You will have to take care of that yourself.

When you stated that our relationship cannot be the same from here on in, I agree. I never wanted our relationship to be what it is today. Relationships are meant to grow and mature. Ours has deteriorated and we need to do what we can to put it back together again. I am praying that we can not only repair the damage that has been done, and develop a much better relationship in the future together as a family and have a loving relationship as father and son.

Any time you want to take off the war paint, I will be waiting for you to sitdown and smokem peace pipe.

Love,

Your father
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« Last Edit: January 28, 2011, 10:44:12 PM by sfalken »

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 12:32:34 AM »
falken and daddy
sat on a wall
falken and daddy
had a big fall
all of the forums
and books written by 'man'
couldn't put falken and daddy
together again.
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hi sf

Indifference to your father would be to not reply to him at all.

I don't "feel" true love coming from his words, and the possibility is that he just doesn't want to lose. If there were ever a relationship of any kind, again, I expect it would be one of idle chatter with an acquaintance, as one would to another on the street, then go about your business. Now that would be very confusing for your children. (Your children can know they are alive, but that you don't get along. I suggest 'not why' precisely. I do think if you speak ill of your parents to the children is 'not right', as when the children are grown they can make their own decisions, and a preset notion installed now could change things.

Some things said and done that really hurt another can never be forgotten, regardless of trying. Apologies never work unless they are timely and change the behaviour of the one who apologized.

(I have 'written off' my daughter, 46, but cannot disown her in my Will.....I wasn't going to, but her percentage was low. The lawyer said to 'up it' so she could NOTcontest my Will. How about them rotten potatoes?)

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 02:12:03 AM »
Oh, Falken, that letter made me feel sick, it is exactly the sort of thing my mother used to do.  What's particularly disturbing is that they've mailed it to numerous other people as well.  It's a classic manipulation tool - look at us, we are trying so hard, we were too kind to him when he was young and it's made him turn out bad, we were so badly abused ourselves that we did nothing but love him and look how he's repayed us, by being aggressive toward an elderly woman and turning on me when I try to defend her.  Urrgghh!!  It made me feel sick to my stomach.  You poor thing.

I would write lots and lots of replies that you will never send.  They're for your eyes only, to get it all out of your system.  Rant rave, scream, shout, swear, be as obnoxious as you like - no-one will ever see it.  Print that letter off (and burn it when you've finished with it) and then delete it from your system, and figure out how he got past your block because you need to plug up so he can't do this again.  If you get anything else from him I'd suggest deleting it without reading it.  Don't respond to him, however much you want to.  He's stated quite clearly it's you who needs to change, not him.  There's nothing you can do or say that will make him treat you the way you want (need, ought to be) treated.  Burning letters is quite cathartic, I used to write and burn, write and burn, write and burn, over and over again.

I agree with Izzy, indifference is the best way forward.  Deal with this yourself, in private, without involving him or anyone around him.  People tend to gravitiate towards those who share similar belief systems, hence him locking horns with a pastor who, no doubt, has been told what a wonderful job they did and how terribly ungrateful you are and who firmly believes that children (you are a grown up, not a child!) should respect their parents no matter what.  Bull!!  Resepct is something you give to those who deserve it, it isn't automatically awarded to anyone.  It's for you to decide who is worthy of your respect, it isn't something that is there automatically.

I hope you're able to get past this in time.

All the best ((()))))

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 10:03:29 AM »
Sounds to me like he's rationalizing a way to be "no contact" with you...

which could be a "gift" for you too, but I doubt it'll stop here.

[and I'd ignore to the best of my ability the "insult to injury" part of this and simply not respond or explain to those people who received this - it's none of their damn business and good people would be embarrassed to be pulled into this... he's baiting you; poking you in the eye - so that you DO respond - so he can point, blame & excuse himself. Other people will see this and know it for what it is - you don't have to explain.]

I despise the way he's excusing himself with religion... but not you. Interesting crap, that.
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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 01:54:46 PM »
Falken, I've just read what I've written, I did not mean to underline those paragraphs just a few words at the beginning!  Obviously didn't switch off underline! :)

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 03:52:00 PM »
"Dad,

I know that deep in your heart, you'd like to just love me and not judge me.
But I also accept that this is not really possible, given the forces in your life.

I do forgive you and hope you forgive me as well. All our wounds will heal.
I do not know how to engage in a healthy relationship with you, however.

So it is better for me and my family that we not be in contact.

Thank you for all you have done for me.
I wish you well.

Your son,
SFalken"
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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 04:16:10 PM »
The really insidious part, is sending that letter to people you know.

Taking something so personal, so intensely private.....

and making it public, in order to gain sympathy for themselves.

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 04:50:29 PM »
I don't know what I would do without this message board, and all of the excellent perspective and just kind hearted replies.

I'm so thankful.

At first, I didn't know that he had sent it to others. He sent it to me and my wife, and spammed every other first initial, last name combo at every email host he could remember me having, and my wife. He sent that from his regular home account.

Then the next day a friend called me from half a state away to ask me what was going on and explained that she was part of a mass mail from my father where he distributed that letter - not only to her, but other members my own family, and long standing friends, etc. He sent this as a separate message from a secret yahoo account of his.

The next night, my ex wife CC'd me on a reply to him - apparently she had received it from him as well - where she told him exactly what she thought of it - that it was sick and wrong of him to say such things to me, and that he had done the wrong thing in sending it. He sent THIS to her - from yet another secret yahoo account he has - that I was not aware of - as a third, separate email.

The pastor they spoke to, is known for giving 'old fashioned' and somewhat out of touch advice. His entire church is split at this point as a result of his approach. He himself has a family which has fallen apart - and has a not so good relationship with all 4 of his own children. My parents visited him on Christmas, acting as if they were about to send me a note to apologize for their behavior over the last year, and for my father's last masterpiece email  that he sent me in August - and he gave them some strange advice. He said that we cannot expect our earthly father to admit fault any more than we can expect our 'Heavenly Father' to admit fault - and went on to tell them that they would be wrong to apologize, and that they should not talk to me whatsoever going forward. Pat pat on the head -'there there poor friends. It's not your fault'

That is wrong advice even from a true Christian perspective, and I know it. From that perspective, just so much as a child is supposed to 'honor' his parents (reading the translation from Greek - this means to honor them in how you live your life - not that your actual parent deserves honor just for existing) so is a parent supposed to not anger or frustrate his or her own child. The advice that pastor gave was laced with his own problems within his own family, but - that is another story. What upsets me is that it was judge and jury with someone who I knew my whole life - who I once had a great relationship with. My parents show up and lie, - smear my name - and that's it.

Thank God things are in a 'decent' place with my ex at this point - and that she stood up for me rather than going along with it. (thats not to say that she doesnt visit with them once in a while because she thinks that my older children still need to have some kind of contact with them - she does, and though I dont like it, that is her decision)

I'm torn. I know that a reply would be nothing more than an invite for them to take everything I say, twist it, throw it back, and smear my name and life even more, to everyone they can.

Yet somehow, (and I'm sure we've all felt this here) I still have that little part of me - that feels so - voiceless - and when I cant speak my feelings - especially to them - when I feel they've gotten their last word in and I cant reply - I feel this blackness in my chest - like I can't breathe.

I think that much is human. My wife tells me that I have to bear in mind that with my parents - I was trained to always 'come back to them' after they mistreated me, and trained - by them - to let them treat me like this - and so, I have these feelings where I somehow wish it could all be better, even though the rational side of me knows it never can be. In her view, she (and others not raised in this situation) may have an easier time telling someone who treats them this way goodbye, permanently.

I like Hopalong's suggestion for a reply, and I also like the idea of letting my silence be my reply - although either is somewhat wasted on people who truly have no real feelings. I once read that with an N, the best reply - that will give them the most misery - is to be indifferent.

How could I have known that my father would turn out to be the joker. My entire life, it was her tearing me down in secret and hurting me emotionally, and me waiting for him to jump in and help, and although usually he did not, I had this hope. How wrong I was. He as her enabler, is no better, and is in some ways worse. I blame him even more - because she is sick, and he - could have stopped this years ago, but he chose not to, and to close his eyes. Now he strikes out at me.


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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 06:21:13 PM »
I understand the voicelessness, Falken.  What I think is difficult, though, is coping with their reaction to your response.  You won't be validated, listened to, accepted or any of the things that we all wish for.  Your words will be twisted and used against you.  You may even find something very personal and private that you write to them is sent to everyone your dad has an email address for, as he has with this letter.

Try and think about other things for a while.  Put it to one side, get on with your day to day stuff and see if an answer comes to you.  Sometimes the answer we need at that time comes along when we give it a little time and space to breathe.  You can do nothing for now, and if in a week, a month, a year, ten years' time you decide to reply, you can do it then.  I have an intention to write to my mum some day.  I know what I want to say, but I don't feel ready to say it yet.  She is getting on in years.  She may die before I get around to doing it.  That's as may be.  Try and be in the present.  It's hard - we drift back and forth between present, past and future.  Try and focus on now, and eventually you will know what to say and whether you want to say it to them or just say it to yourself (or your wife, friend, counsellor, on here - you know what I mean) :)

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Re: A New Letter
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 01:52:08 PM »
It's poison
Not to be touched with a 10-foot pole
Burn it, maybe
But don't let the vapors get to your soul

How wonderful, though, that your ex understands and sees it for what it is.  Perhaps, she will eventually dispense with the visits.  Are you able to influence her a bit? 

So sorry this is happening.  Truly monstrous for him to do a mass email.  So utterly pathetic and disloyal.  He seems to be trying very hard to hurt you.  I found in such situations, it helped for me to truly connect and lean on those who really love me and to build on those good and true relationships. 

Wishing you peace . . .