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Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Certain Hope on February 11, 2008, 05:16:59 PM

p.s.  Gabben asked first.  The job of moderator is hers.   


Yay  :D    lol... too cute!

And some of my favorite people are agnostics  :)
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Overcomer on February 11, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
The only time I was discouraged by a deleted thread is when I felt I had a pretty insightful post and no one got to read it because the thread starter deleted it.  Then it happened again.......

And just like Dr. G said, if someone deletes something you said that you thought was profound, start a new thread and make your point.

And no, even though it may seem like the forum is predominately US Christians..............it is not true.  Some of my favorite people here do not proclaim either.......

I love hearing Hermes and Bella's comments but have loved hearing GS's thoughts as well.  No need to fight..........we all have our opinions and the right to state them in a nice way!
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: axa on February 11, 2008, 05:41:38 PM
Go to it - just leave this one alone and let those of us who like it the way it is enjoy it peacefully.

Bella & Hermes,
I appreciate you posts and as a member of this forum since, I think, June/July 2006, I am pleased to have heard both of your voices, whether they sing the same song as mine or not.  I understand I am a hijacker!! - new insight, that is what I love about this board, forever learning.  To those whose threads I hijacked unwittingly I apologise, to those who have hijacked my threads, I FORGIVE YOU.  I, in my ignorance, have been posting away happily not knowing I was breaking the rules and being disrespectful.  My sense is I am not alone but I may be wrong........... oops, have I done it AGAIN

xxx

Axa
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 05:47:56 PM
Thankyou so much Kelly, Amber, Hermes, and Axa, and of course Leah.

I feel grateful to have been heard, and understood. It was good to get `past the fears' and hear other points of view too.

I hope you have a nice evening!

X bella 
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Leah on February 11, 2008, 05:54:18 PM

Dear Bella,

Truly hope that you have a very pleasant evening.

Leah x
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
You too Leah! Thanks so much for the discussion today:)

HUgs, bella
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: teartracks on February 11, 2008, 06:13:55 PM




Hi Gabben,

p.s.  Gabben asked first.  The job of moderator is hers.   
 
Congratulations!  I'm excited for you.

tt
 
 
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 06:19:12 PM
Hi tt,

Thanks! I'm feeling shy. :wink:

Moderation is not one of my strengths, I am more prone to excess.  :P

This will be a new experience!  :D

Lise
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: teartracks on February 11, 2008, 06:35:38 PM



Hi Gabben,

I think it is awesome that you asked.  A turtle goes nowhere until it sticks its head out.  You go shy turtle!

tt
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 07:02:19 PM
You go shy turtle!
You go shy turtle!
You go shy turtle!
You go shy turtle!
You go shy turtle!
LOL!!!

Go Gabben. Go Gabben. Go Gabben.
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 07:16:41 PM
I hope this is a joke.

I vote Hops for moderator. Have you ever met a person more wise and tactful?

VOTE 1 FOR HOPALONG!!!

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Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Leah on February 11, 2008, 07:23:26 PM


"What about ME !! "

ME

ME

ME




 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
Yes Leah

ME

ME

ME


It's no joke Bella - Gabben gets the job!!!!
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 07:35:46 PM
LOL!!!!!

First come first serve was all the Dr. said.

Shall I change my name?

Lise
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 07:38:24 PM

It's no joke Bella - Gabben gets the job!!!!
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Its sounds like a joke to me, lol.

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 07:50:28 PM
What should Gabben's new name be????

How about Moderator King????
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 07:53:04 PM
How about Princess?  Yeah that's it, call me princess.
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 07:59:53 PM
OK Gabben how about Princess Moderaking?
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 08:01:06 PM
Well, Well, Well,

What doesn't happen when I'm not here to keep everyone same.  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Congratulations Gabben!

Izzy


Izzy, you make me LAUGH!!!!!  :lol: :lol:

See what happens when you go away for a while?

Lise
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
Izzy, Its a joke, lol (really)



Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 08:04:41 PM
LOL Izzy!!!

Did you mean same or sane?
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 08:05:55 PM
It's no joke Bella - why do you think Dr. Grossman is joking?  Just because you don't like Gabben being the moderator?  Do you think only Hermes can handle that job?
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 08:23:23 PM
Lol, No my vote was for Hopalong, if you look back. Remember?

What happened to your `I'm so totally against moderation or any changes whatsoever' argument? You've changed your tune all of a sudden GS.

Richard wrote to me, he said it was a joke. Some got it right away (I wasn't sure, so I asked him..)

X bella

 

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 08:28:43 PM
hah heh hah

I did mean sane! Who was baby-sitting while I was gone, anyway????

Hermes still the same. Just be gentle and humanlike and all will be well. Some of our victim to sirvivor people don't go as far back as 1991 and further. They still need time!

Not going back to look, but GS, did you get MAD?  shame shame--temper temper!!--being an N mother.

Nnow Gabben, don't you be trying to converty this agnostic!!! I mean it. I stay away from those threads! I nwwd my space! I need my dinner! I need a drink!

And Leah, our ever-patient Leah, you were too late Butch!

later aLLl
Love Ixxy


ROTFL...................ROTFL...........................ROTFL...........................ROTFL................................. :lol:

Thanks ((Izzy)) I needed that!

Lise
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 08:46:14 PM
Quote
Not going back to look, but GS, did you get MAD?

Izzy - you definitely should go back.  If you take the lunacies of Bella and Hermes I'm coming to lock you up!!!
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Hermes on February 11, 2008, 08:48:54 PM
"If you take the lunacies of Bella and Hermes I'm coming to lock you up!!!""

How lovely.  Gaslighting, just like the mentally disordered you are.

Hermes

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 08:52:04 PM
Of course Bella is normal like you and me.  What kind of message is that Izzy.  Who in the world would like to be normal like you and me??????
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Bella_French on February 11, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
lol, Izzy, I think I ticked GS off when I called her on some language I saw as rude (I tend to do that)

And now I've been deemed a  lunatic (also rude IMO) . It doesn't make sense to me, but I accept that it does to some, lol.

I'm surprised actually. i always seemed to get on perfectly well with GS.

oh well,

X bella



Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 11, 2008, 09:06:47 PM
Thanks Dr. Grossman -- I have been deleted!! That is the story of my life :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 09:14:13 PM
Oh Gabben - I'm sorry.  I so loved that you had been chosen moderator!!!


Leah - what does Twigged mean????

Bella - did you see this part???
Quote
Of course Bella is normal like you and me.
I have nothing against you.  And you did not tick me off.  I disagreed with Hermes and I know that Hermes is important to you.  Disagreeing with Hermes does not make me against you.  But I did/do disagree with many of the comments you and Hermes have made in this and other threads.  That is quite different from being ticked off.

I certainly see how my referring to "the lunacies of Bella and Hermes " is insulting.  I apologize.
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Leah on February 11, 2008, 09:16:56 PM

Oh, sorry, GS

that is a local saying here.

it means "caught on"  "have you noticed something"

This thread has been slit into two.

2 threads now.

this one with jovial comments

the original with serious comment.

Leah x

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 11, 2008, 09:20:33 PM
OHHHHHH!  Of course ..... twigged - splittttttt.


That seems so obvious.  Thanks.

( I so like the jovial side - don't you?????)
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Hermes on February 11, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
""I certainly see how my referring to "the lunacies of Bella and Hermes " is insulting.  I apologize."""

A bit late in the day for that, don"t you think, G.S.?  The damage has been done.  

Then again, what else could I have expected.  

Hermes

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Hermes on February 11, 2008, 09:39:12 PM
Dear Leah:

I was not aware of you offering any apology.  Why would you apologise? Less so to me.  Maybe I have missed something along the way.  But you have no need to apologise to me. 

I have got nothing whatsoever against apologies, when they are sincere.  I perceive no sincerity here, none (referring to the "lunacies".  Sorry about that.
When has G. offered any support, kind or otherwise, to me. I haven"t seen it. If you have, please direct me to the thread, or post, and I promise I will look at it.
I am very very annoyed, Leah. I think this is obvious. 
Look Leah.  I spent a long time, too long, being ill-treated by a NPD.  One day, the worm turned, and I gave him as good as I got.  (probably a futile exercise where an NPD is concerned).  Please understand that I feel very very bad right now, I am in no mood for word games.  Please.
The rules I believe in are the rules of fairness. 
But, if someone pricks me with a pin, they are bound to draw blood.  What more can I say.

All the best, and I think today has been long enough.
Hermes

Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Hermes on February 11, 2008, 09:41:58 PM
In conclusion, just forgot to say that if anyone wishes to IM me or send me an email message, they are welcome to do so (on my profile).
I think the board has had enough of this whole sorry business.

Hermes
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Leah on February 11, 2008, 10:03:27 PM

Dear Leah:

I was not aware of you offering any apology.  Why would you apologise? Less so to me.  Maybe I have missed something along the way.  But you have no need to apologise to me.
 


All the best, and I think today has been long enough.
Hermes



 Here is my public apology,  Hermes ..........



Hello Hermes,

I have only just signed on, I have explained as to the reason why, with an open, public, apology, on your "Censureship" thread.

Here again, is my apology, posted for you here, in case you are unaware.

You are quite at liberty to contact the Owner / Moderator of this Emotional Survival Forum, Dr Grossman, directly, and a lodge a complaint, should you desire to do so, as we all here are at liberty, with freedom.

This board, mercifully, is not the same as the MSN boards, which is why, as is my understanding, so many enjoy being here, with appreciation for how Dr Grossman runs his board, myself included.  This is the best support board that I have come across, and the first and only one, in which I have become a member of.

Again, my choice of topic was heaven with just 2 questions, and I think in light of recent bereavements and other considerations, my thread was truly lacking in consideration.

Out of consideration, as prompted, I deleted my thread, as it happened, my questions were unanswered in any case (which were only ponderings), but that is by the by.  As I am personally responsible, and accountable, for my thoughts, and actions.

Every good wish to you, sincerely.

Leah x


Hello Folks,

If by chance, this "Censorship" thread is in reference to, my action of deleting my thread, that I started today, 'Heaven'

May I please be permitted to explain the reason why I deleted it.  It was simply because I was prompted to do so, out of consideration for members here on the board whose own real life situation is as such that it may have caused them upset.

Anyway, I wish to extend my sincere apologies to you (((( Hermes )))) and to you (((( Bella )))) for causing each of you to feel upset.

I only did what I thought was best.

In hindsight, I should have considered, before starting the thread in the first instance, which was merely a couple of questions, ponderings, upon my wondering about certain aspects, last night.  However, I made that mistake and will try not to do so again.

I had intended to send a PM message, as you had posted toward the end of the thread, to explain what I had done, and why, but alas, I was called away to answer the telephone, which became a lengthy call, with a subsequent urgent matter to attend to.  It is only by chance that I have come back onto the board again, after researching an author.

Sincere good wishes.

Leah x


Also, my sincere apologies to ((((( everyone )))))) for not thinking first, in consideration. 

Leah x


http://www.voicelessness.com/disc3//index.php?topic=7086.0 (http://www.voicelessness.com/disc3//index.php?topic=7086.0)  Censureship thread.


http://www.voicelessness.com/disc3//index.php?topic=7089.msg114204#msg114204 


Here is your response, Hermes ..........


Hello Leah:

I agree that this is an excellent board, but excellent or not, moderating is IMHO required.  By moderating I am NOT referring to the type of dictatorship you might encounter on certain other boards. 
But I find it decidedly odd that posters can at will delete whole threads, just like that.  I do believe that is the moderator's job.

I do not need any apology, believe me.   I am just very surprised, that's all.

All the best
Hermes
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Hermes on February 11, 2008, 10:10:22 PM
I did not see that, Leah.  And again I say, there is no need to apologise to me.  Look, Leah, I don"t know what is the problem with a certain number of people here, but with me, it is straight up.  I was surprised the thread was deleted (I did not know that it was possible for a member to do so).  That"s all.  Why would I complain to Dr. Grossman about you? 

I am quite well aware that someone might not like me, that several people might not like me.  That is fine. 
Please do not worry further about it.

All the best
Hermes
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Gabben on February 12, 2008, 11:43:53 AM


And, in all honesty, saying of GS  .........  just like the mentally disordered you are.   is simply not on, is it??

Gabben has offered kind support for your pain, and you have severely rebuked and insulted her, and her alleged "sidekicks"


Leah,

I'm writing this post not pretending that you and I don't always get along here (understatement).

But I did need to thank you for saying something here and standing up for me. When I came on the board this morning and read some of the posts and Hermes response to my post, which was really just a way of gaslighting or smearing my virtue with her vice, I felt hurt. Being called an abuser? Come on!

I appreciate that you *see*  said something in defense for me and the others here that are getting treated with indignity.

Gab
Title: Re: Lack of moderating
Post by: Certain Hope on February 12, 2008, 04:05:10 PM
Hi everyone.

Umm... I haven't been here in about 24 hours, but I honestly don't recall starting this as a separate thread... and I'm not sure why it is showing up that way. Thought I'd posted my "Yay" response to Gabben being mod here on the original thread re: moderating... so this is a mystery to me.

But since my name's on it, I'm using my option to lock the thread.

Carolyn