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Heather

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Overweight as a protective device
« on: October 24, 2007, 12:11:55 PM »
Hello all-  :)

I read (in one of the numerous books on narcissism that I got at the library-you should have seen the look on the librarian's face when I checked out!) that many children of narcissists carry extra weight as "insulation" against the emotional abuse. Being fat is like a protective device.

This idea interests me, because I have carted around 30 extra pounds for the last 15 years. I often talk about doing something about it, but rarely do.

I was very thin when I was younger. As I grew into womanhood, my mother was extremely critical of my appearance. If anyone said that I was pretty, she would find some way to demean me. She would not allow me to have boyfriends, even though boys were interested in me. Of course, once word got around my small high school about my difficult mother and all her restrictions, eventually the boys stopped calling. I began to see myself as ugly, and this idea was reinforced by the lack of attention from the opposite sex. I stopped caring about my appearance, because what was the point? In college my weight began to creep up, and I've been overweight ever since.

If you've experienced this, I would love to hear your stories, and about how you cope. I would like to someday lose this padding and find the real me underneath. I just don't know how to do that. I still have a lot of healing to do, so maybe it will come with time?

Love and hugs-
Heather

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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 12:30:03 PM »
Heather,

I'm sorry you feel bad about your 'extra' weight, and I'm sorry that your mother was so unkind. What an N!

I had anorexia for 12 years (from age 12 to 24). I was repeatedly told I was ugly, and I believed it until about two months ago, when I used EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) to remove the ingrained ideas about how I felt. It took one session of about 15 minutes, on my own, to get rid of the feelings that have haunted me for over 40 years.

The technique seems daft, if you've never tried it before (tapping on acupressure points while saying particular phrases), but for me it was so effective, so quickly, it's worth a try. Here's a link  to a site where you can download a 100 page manual for free.

www.emofree.com

You can 'tap' on any issue, and deal with the underlying causes. Hope it helps you.

Janet

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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 12:32:12 PM »
Heather,
Yes, I too have always had weight issues. In fact, I thought I had gotten it under control a few years ago - I was feeling pretty good about everything, and then my sister's wedding came up. It was such a cluster-f*** that I went into drinking again and let my weight spiral back up. Now I am having a hard time getting back to normal. I have been bulimic, as has my sioster. My mother made an issue of weight our whole lives. She would tell us we were too fat one minute and take us out for ice cream the next. If I lost weight, she said she gained what I lost. If I gained it, she would frown and be embarrassed or assume I was pregnant. She is still cruel about my weight and talks all the time about my body - especially comparing it to hers. When I was pregnant, she went on and on about how she only gained a few pounds. My dad is overweight and she has always used that against him as well. She sees herself as a thin, young woman, although she is heavy and older now. I REALLY watch what she says to my children. They love sports and she thinks sports are dumb and not for girls. My kids have great self esteem and I don't want her to even mention anything that might make them in any way feel negative about themselves.
I think once you get to the heart of what is bothering you, you will be able to deal with your weight issue if you want to. With me, I work out a lot with the kids now and I tell them I do want to be healthy and in shape so that we can play together. We do family sports now and enjoy them a lot. We also eat healthier overall.
I would love to explore this more with you. We have discussed this in other threads you might find if you look back a few pages.
Love, Beth
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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 12:54:59 PM »
Dear Heather,
  I have  so much to add to this thread,but I want to think about it and get back.
  That is funny about the librarian.
  Once we can get a little distance from the pain--- life is freakin' funny                       Love  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 03:32:19 PM »
I spent my whole life naturally skinny....until I got married and entered the Truman Show world of N's and their golden children spawn.  (No.....no deep seeded issues here.)  Then I started to gain a little weight.  I blamed it on having children and watched my weight fluxuate through the years.  But after baby four, I just couldn't shed the weight.  And these last two years....stress and crazy N activity......have been difficult as well.  But, I have done exercize and limited calories and sugar.  I even took my diet to my Dr and asked if I had thyroid issues.  The tests are normal.  So, my theory is the same as yours.  I think our psyche protects us any way it can.  And in my case, so much came at me all at once that my subconscious couldn't tell the difference between a mild threat or a major one.  My T, who is very petite, gained twenty pounds out of the blue when she went through a stressful period.  She confirmed to me that our bodies do this for protection.

I am not sure how to convince the psyche that I am safe.  Lots of time and safe conditions for lots of days and months I guess.  And maybe the proving of recovery behaviors over time helps too.

Janet,  I am interested in your success with the EFT stuff.  That sounds a lot like EMDR therapy.  I had a lot of success with that early on.  But my Therapist moved and I never did it again.  She told me that painful stuff gets "stuck" in our brains and fails to process completely and these techniques help to reprocess, quickly, the old pain.  I probably need to go back and do some more of it.  It might really help.


Love poppy

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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 08:21:33 AM »
Dear Heather,
  This is a great topic. Food is a nurturer. I think that many children of N parents have food issues. I always have.
  I never had this before,but I got so stressed with all the craziness of my N mother in my head combined with my H that I could not eat. This is just the flip side of eating too much.
  I think that the N mother really attacks  your very feeling that you "deserve" to live and thrive.
  I think that the N mother attacks you and hurts you so deeply that your very survival is at stake.
 My goal now is to force myself to nurture myself b/c all my 'learned messages are for me to  destroy myself.
 Nurturing is broader than eating.It is honoring your emotions,, your creativity , your body and your mind.
  Heather-- you add so much to the board.I am glad that you are here.                 Love    Ami

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 03:53:56 PM »
This is my exact problem.  Years of feeling controlled and abused caused me to run to comfort foods.  Plus this "I have to be the thin and successful and pretty one" messages I got constantly for my whole life.  That and the disapproval I felt and still feel from my mom has been a CONSTANT thorn in my side.  I got so desperate that I went and had lap band surgery to try to  force myself to not hide in a fat body!
Kelly

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Re: Overweight as a protective device
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 05:34:37 PM »
Dear Heather,

I don't really know the answer to this, but I have encountered the idea of extra weight equating with self- protection too.

If that is the case, perhaps it means that unconsciously there is an intense fear within us of having our survival critically threatened? That would make biological sense, as fat is nature's way of preparing for harsh conditions, such as being abandoned by a parent, perhaps. So maybe somehow the extra weight comes from a deep fear of abandonment by our caregiver? Why those fears would extend into adulthood, I don't know though. But so much of our emotional makeup is residual, so it could make sense.

I was a skinny child too, but I started to get noticeably chubbier when I was 15 years old. That was when my mother started her affairs, and would leave the family for 6-9 months at a time (we never expected her to come back each time she did it, so the pain was enormous).

When I was 17, my mother was home again and I started dieting and became extremely thin. But I gained back all the weight (and more) when I left home to live in another city (abandonment issues again, no doubt). I became completely addicted to food when I was 19, when I started working in the country as a horse groom, for an extreme NPD sufferer. She was 100 times worse than my mother! By the end of that year I was bulimic and very thin again.

However I think the way people react to intense fear of abandonment does not always result in gaining weight, and being chubby is not necessarily a sign of emotional illness either. Two of my sisters became much  thinner and one could barely eat at all, for example. (Kind of like what Janet described) . I attribute this to genes, as those two sisters were born to another mother. When my sisters put on a bit of extra weight, its usually  a GOOD sign for them, and comes when they are feeling secure and happy.

My youngest sister was the most enmeshed child with our mother of all of us, and she has become progressively fatter over the years and is now noticeable obese. My mother is a huge part of her life and has financially supported her and her various husbands for her entire adulthood. My parents bought her a succession of franchise businesses (worth over 100K each),  and their home. I really think my sister's obesity is tied in with the enmeshment with our mother somehow.

My weight now is something like 20 pounds more than I prefer (aesthetically speaking), but I have held onto it for these past 4 years because I am working through the disproportional sense of shame I feel about having a little extra weight. Its been an extremely strengthening experience, in terms of feeling loved by my partner, and getting about in the world as a real person rather than as a `hot chick'.

As my shame has begun to dissolve (and it has!!), I am feeling myself becoming more energetic and gravitating towards physical activities that I enjoy. For example, I am walking for 1 1/2 hours a day now through a quite hilly area (to take my photos of wild-life), and it feels so different to when I would go to the gym, and the utter fear that would drive me. I think the fear of Fat is was a toxic feeling for me, also inherited from my mother.

Thanks so much for this thread Heather; it has been so good writing about this and reading everyone else's experiences.

X Bella