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Hopalong

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #495 on: January 08, 2021, 03:07:11 PM »
I hope that lasts, ((((Tupp)))!

I've made two changes in my personal practice:

1) Instead of one mask, I'm now wearing two. A simple surgical mask first, topped with a pleated cloth mask. Lucky it's winter--I'm finding it quite comfortable.

2) Not that I was much anyway, but I'm going out only to go to pod-partner's (M's) house a few times a month. I can't find any need to physically go anywhere except for the odd walk.

Since it's respiratory, viral and that's the biggest transmission, for me the double-mask feels comforting and empowering.

The rest is up to time. May be summer before I'm vaccinated and from what I read, we need to wear masks anyway. Vaccination doesn't guarantee not getting it, though of course it'll help.

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« Reply #496 on: January 09, 2021, 05:48:28 AM »
Sounds sensible to me, Hopsie.  I feel safer now we're back in lockdown; there are just fewer people out and about which naturally means more space between people.  Doesn't stop the virus in its tracks, obviously, but it has made a difference on local numbers already which has to be a good thing.  And I think it will get easier again as we head back to spring and summer, just because socially distanced sitting outside becomes possible again and that helps.

Information about vaccines here seems to be changing frequently.  I think we've just had a third approved for use.  They've vaccinated about a million over 80s so far and have agreed to vaccinate frontline healthcare workers as a priority.  Son is currently in Priority group 6 so is expected to come to the top of the list in March.  Unpaid carers (like myself) are currently not scheduled as a priority but various groups are pressuring for that to change and if it does, I should get mine at the same time as son.  If not, between June and September has been suggested (and all of this assumes that they roll out as they're planning to).  As I understand it the vaccine won't be a miracle solution, as you say, distancing, masks and common sense will need to be employed for a long time yet and some docs/science people here think lockdowns over winter for the next few years might prove to be necessary.  I suppose it depends on other countries vaccinating as well and whether we really get on top of it all.  At the mo I'm feeling grateful that we can stay in a lot; son seems to be perfectly happy and I feel less anxious as the numbers are dropping nearby.  Plus it's cold!  I'm getting out for my morning walks, getting son out most days when its dry but will be very glad to see sunshine and long sunny days again :)  I forget how much I miss the sun until I see it again :) xx

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« Reply #497 on: January 09, 2021, 08:45:04 AM »
It's reported that California had more than 670+ deaths in one day. It's been numbing to listen to people all chant "wash your hands" and "wear masks" as if that is doing anything at all. News was broadcasting one male airplane passenger complaining about other passengers not wearing masks, if that one guy was so concerned with the pandemic however he wouldn't be on an airplane at all. There are so many layers of nonsense. So many airplanes being allowed to constantly zip around the world is part of what has helped spread this virus from continent to continent, airline travel in general certainly has not been helping in anyway.

A local TV station broadcasts a dull board of commissioner meeting which I sometimes watch because it can be an antidote away from the slanted massive media broadcasts, problem is the board of commissioners have spent 3+ weeks slowly discussing possible fines and fees associated with breaking covid restrictions. It's very slow and watching it all makes me question the ineffectual paper-pushing vibe these government employees have. Sitting in their home offices just discussing things which are not even guaranteed to be implemented in a consistent enforced way. In the interim the vaccine process has been slow and sluggish. It's understandable that there are a limited amount of healthcare workers. What I don't get is why there are no statements about planning strategic drive through vaccine centers. In this state there is apparently an honor system for vaccine tiers. The lack of strategy feels a lot like Hurricane Katrina except that the pandemic has been slowly ramping up for a very long time now. In the end it doesn't matter anymore they are lucky if they can get anybody vaccinated. No doubt the wealthiest have already received private vaccines as billionaires are ultra VIP essential workers.

January 20, 2020
was the date someone in this state was first diagnosed with Covid19. Now it's January 9th, 2021

I guess it's good that there are vaccines and medications yes but the process is so slow (as expected) it's just dragging on.



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« Reply #498 on: January 10, 2021, 05:22:36 PM »
Hi everyone,

Such times we are living in!  Children are certainly being deeply affected as well.  See below:

https://khn.org/news/article/childrens-hospitals-grapple-with-wave-of-mental-illness/

Take care,

Richard

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« Reply #499 on: January 15, 2021, 11:13:21 AM »
This state's governor just updated vaccine criteria to include every person over age 70, no specific health conditions required. Just went on the dept of health's website and signed up to receive a text message with my vaccine appointment.

Hope it's soon. It's encouraging.

Nothing changes with regard to masking and social distancing and similar behavior, and I won't go into public places for months more....we don't know quite enough about the immunity yet. But I'll feel more comfortable having also-vaccinated close friends into my house now and then, I think, which'd be a great relief.

Even going out and about will feel safer *in about a month (depending when my appointment is).

Trusting that all of us will very soon be in the vaccination pipeline. dig deep for the patience we'll need! (I was too optimistic in my first draft of this.)

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PS *A friend volunteering in the front-line vaccines rollout sez not to get my hopes up about "soon" -- given chaos in current rollout, limits to availability, and the huge size of the demographic I'm in, it could be summer or even later. Paaaaatience.
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« Reply #500 on: January 16, 2021, 06:29:47 AM »
Hi everyone,

Such times we are living in!  Children are certainly being deeply affected as well.  See below:

https://khn.org/news/article/childrens-hospitals-grapple-with-wave-of-mental-illness/

Take care,

Richard

It is so sad, Dr G, I'm just hoping that more people realise that no-one is immune to health problems or just a run of bad luck/unexpected change of circumstances and that we all need well run, well funded public services all the time - even if we're not using them personally.  It really has been a lesson in how important it is to work together and how quickly situations can change.  Hope you and your family are all doing okay xx

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« Reply #501 on: January 16, 2021, 06:37:40 AM »
This state's governor just updated vaccine criteria to include every person over age 70, no specific health conditions required. Just went on the dept of health's website and signed up to receive a text message with my vaccine appointment.

Hope it's soon. It's encouraging.

Nothing changes with regard to masking and social distancing and similar behavior, and I won't go into public places for months more....we don't know quite enough about the immunity yet. But I'll feel more comfortable having also-vaccinated close friends into my house now and then, I think, which'd be a great relief.

Even going out and about will feel safer *in about a month (depending when my appointment is).

Trusting that all of us will very soon be in the vaccination pipeline. dig deep for the patience we'll need! (I was too optimistic in my first draft of this.)

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Hops

PS *A friend volunteering in the front-line vaccines rollout sez not to get my hopes up about "soon" -- given chaos in current rollout, limits to availability, and the huge size of the demographic I'm in, it could be summer or even later. Paaaaatience.

I will keep my fingers crossed that it's sooner than summer, Hopsie.  It seems pretty chaotic here as well; son's expected date has been pushed back from March to anytime between April and June and I've been told for me it could be anywhere between August and November.  In my mind I've assumed it's going to take a year and then if it's quicker it will be nice :)  Hopefully not slower!  Dear God, that doesn't bare thinking about.

In other news, possibly interesting, I've been invited to take an antibody test.  They're testing random groups of people to see how prevalent asymptomatic Covid is and they're wanting to get an idea of how many people might have had it without knowing.  It's apparently a pin prick test I can do at home (they send me a kit) and then I upload the results onto their survey.  It will be interesting to see. Son is very excited that we're doing science at home lol.  I'll let you all know!  But meantime, Hopsie, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an earlier jab for you.  Are your vaccines in two doses or one?  I think they've approved several different ones here now, I've lost track a bit but I know at least a couple of them require two shots.

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« Reply #502 on: January 16, 2021, 09:59:17 AM »
Wow, that'll be interesting, Tupp, to find out if you have antibodies. Nice!

I'm not certain, but believe it'll be the two-dose one.

Of late it's wearing on me more than it had before, I'm sure because of the combo of bad news + isolation. But I think spring and warmth will fix the latter and meanwhile, I'm lucky to be safe, warm, and with people I can call if I can't stand it any more.

Hanging in and hope you are too.

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« Reply #503 on: January 16, 2021, 10:17:50 AM »
Wow, that'll be interesting, Tupp, to find out if you have antibodies. Nice!

I'm not certain, but believe it'll be the two-dose one.

Of late it's wearing on me more than it had before, I'm sure because of the combo of bad news + isolation. But I think spring and warmth will fix the latter and meanwhile, I'm lucky to be safe, warm, and with people I can call if I can't stand it any more.

Hanging in and hope you are too.

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It will be interesting, I'm just curious about that sort of thing - not that I think there's much chance I've had it as we were staying in before we were told to and we've really been careful so less chance to catch it plus no symptoms seems unlikely to me, but interesting non the less!

I have found it more wearing just lately as well, Hopsie, and I think you're right - lack of daylight and warm sunshine, further restricted social activities and all sorts of things going on in all sorts of places as well.  But - there are videos of dolphins surfing on YouTube :)  So that makes me smile.  I will be glad to see the sunshine again and to be able to go out without having to calculate the risk and decide whether or not it's worth it.  Keep on hanging on in there xx xx xx

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« Reply #504 on: January 17, 2021, 06:49:56 AM »
Just had word from my sister that my aunty has died from Covid.  It seems that she was unwell for a mercifully short period of time so I'm hoping that it wasn't horribly painful - as far as I'm aware she was at home and heavily sedated so I'm hoping she just went to sleep and didn't know any more about it.  This is the first time someone I know really well has been affected - friends have lost relatives and/or work colleagues and so on but this is the first in my immediate circle.  My sister said it really brought home to her how dangerous it could be for our mum.  I feel like I was aware of that, which is why I've reached out to her a couple of times since this started.  She's not responded so I think best for me to leave well alone - I'll send condolences to my cousins and check in on my other aunty (the other sister) but I'll leave mum be.  I do think it's so sad that as a family we can't even comfort one another during difficult times but there we are.  That's an aunt, and uncle and a cousin all gone in the last year.  It's very sobering.  Anyway, sorry to be posting negative news.  I really can't wait for a time when this is all over.

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« Reply #505 on: January 17, 2021, 12:18:37 PM »
I'm really sorry about your aunty, Tupp.

One thing I think about is that dying from Covid-19 is essentially dying from pneumonia, which used to be called "the old man's friend" as a gentle way to go. I wonder if the medical "fights" with multiple drugs plus mechanicals makes it tougher than it needs to be. That's maybe partly our medical model--death must be defeated. Hmmm.

I don't know, but I wonder if being in the ICU with all those medical interventions plus the trauma of intubation isn't a way worse way to go (and only 65% of those intubated survive anyway). If at-home morphine and sedation and supplemental oxygen (without intubation) can make the discomfort bearable, I'd opt for that too.

All I can compare it to is my Ngent I worked for -- the night before he died we visited and talked and he was gone of pneumonia in the morning.

I hope it was gentle and unaware for her, in peace at home.
(Wise call about your Nmum, too. She'll find her own peace when her time comes.)

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« Reply #506 on: January 18, 2021, 02:39:57 AM »
Thanks, Hops.  As I understand it there was no intervention, she was made comfortable at home and I'm hoping that does mean it was relatively peaceful.  She lost her husband a few years ago and I know she missed him very much so hopefully they're together again now.  I think those 'what happens after we die' threads can be comforting even when none of us know for sure.  I do feel bad for people not being able to have funerals.  I think the limit here at the moment is ten people which will only allow for her children and grandchildren to attend.  Very hard for other loved ones not to be able to say goodbye in person (although I understand the need for restrictions).  And yes, I'll leave mum to it - she knows where I am (as she's fond of making sure I know when she sends my son stuff each time we move) so she can reach out if she wants to.

In (hopefully) slightly better news, case numbers have started to drop.  They're still very high but they are going down.  Doctors are still swamped and awful pictures are emerging of ambulances queuing outside hospitals and Covid patients being treated in corridors but it seems admissions have stabilised so although the death rate will still climb for a while hopefully that will start to drop soon as well.  As always I am very grateful to have all of you here during this mad and crazy time xx

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« Reply #507 on: January 18, 2021, 10:47:51 AM »
It's amazing what we've all acclimated to this year, isn't it?

BTW, I mis-typed (ADD brain) that statistic. It's only 35% of those intubated who survive. And many with lasting damage. Motivation not to get Covid in the first place is very high. On the brighter side, locally there is a large plan underway to set up a massive vaccine center in the space of an old "KMart" -- the big discount store pre-WalMart. Huge place with ample parking. Dunno when my appointment will be but even if it's months away I'm grateful.

M lost an old friend (secretary for years) to Covid and was distraught about it last night. Second person he's known personally. I know a couple of people whose relatives in other places have contracted it.

I have my days when I'm a bit crazed by it all, but overall I feel very grateful and also fairly safe. Biggest danger to me is lack of exercise and my inner ADD stuff, but there is still time to make this winter about getting healthier.

I'm so grateful for you too, Tupp--always will be.

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« Reply #508 on: January 19, 2021, 07:28:29 AM »
It's amazing what we've all acclimated to this year, isn't it?

BTW, I mis-typed (ADD brain) that statistic. It's only 35% of those intubated who survive. And many with lasting damage. Motivation not to get Covid in the first place is very high. On the brighter side, locally there is a large plan underway to set up a massive vaccine center in the space of an old "KMart" -- the big discount store pre-WalMart. Huge place with ample parking. Dunno when my appointment will be but even if it's months away I'm grateful.

M lost an old friend (secretary for years) to Covid and was distraught about it last night. Second person he's known personally. I know a couple of people whose relatives in other places have contracted it.

I have my days when I'm a bit crazed by it all, but overall I feel very grateful and also fairly safe. Biggest danger to me is lack of exercise and my inner ADD stuff, but there is still time to make this winter about getting healthier.

I'm so grateful for you too, Tupp--always will be.

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Hops

I'm sorry about M's friend, Hopsie.  It is all very close to home now.  I was talking to a friend yesterday - she has a friend whose son has caught it, her partner has a relative who has it, another friend has a friend who's on a ventilator.  It feels like it's changed from many saying 'no-one I know has caught it' to many saying the opposite now.  And it's very sobering.  But yes, like you, I have days when it all catches up with me, but on the whole we're getting on with what we can and very grateful for the time, actually.  I'd never have taken an extended period like this just to stay home and not rush about all the time so it's given me opportunities to think about a lot of things.  And to think about the future.  I don't want it to be like the past.  I'm working to change that.  And I hope they get that big vaccine centre up and running so you can get your jab soon!  I think they've given first doses to about four million people here now.  I can't fathom the logistics for having to vaccinate an entire population twice and then having to do it all again because it needs to be done yearly?  But I guess greater brains than mine are working on it so there must be a way :) xx