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Bettyanne

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my daughter and fiance?
« on: February 08, 2021, 02:10:52 AM »
My daughter text me tonight that she was scared? that her fiancé had hit her?
I know that is not good.............
OMG

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2021, 04:14:43 AM »
That's horrible hopefully she can leave.

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2021, 05:01:42 AM »
I hope she's okay, BettyAnne, do you know if she was able to call the police? xx

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2021, 12:48:17 PM »
Aaack, I'm so sorry, Bettyanne.

I hope you know that you can't fix this except just to love. (She knows you do.)

I hope she's grownup enough to report this to the police immediately.

hugs and comfort,
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2021, 05:36:09 PM »
I'm so sorry,  Bettyanne.  I hope family members can support her in keeping herself safe.

Reporting the incident would be difficult, but most women don't report the first assault, statistically.

In a situation with bad and worse choices, reporting is the best, IME.

:: Sending you and DD strength::

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2021, 07:43:39 AM »
Bettyanne, is there more to the story of what happened? I know, as a mom, it's hard to get those communications in the middle of the night. How are you faring?
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2021, 02:20:46 AM »
Things seem? to be OK at the moment.......I am not saying that things are OK.......
I hope it will work out.......

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 12:33:20 PM »
I suggest your DD file a " courtesy report", which is a way to document only.  There will be no arrest, BUT your DD will have evidence to show past violence when/ if it happens, IME.

IME she should have him arrested and held accountable.  The majority if women don't.

When one makes that first excuse...
When one allows violence without providing logical consequences...

When one begins moving thus kind of boundary, without addressing the cause and requiring apology and work to actively resolve the problem of interpersonal terrorism it rarely, if ever, gets better.

I wonder of your DD can envision her life after marriage....
With young children....
with and without an emotionally unstable, violent husband pushing her boundaries back, inch by inch, training her how to anticipate his moods and fawn, walk on eggshells, attempting to control, handle, minimize his bad moods, outbursts and violence against her and perhaps children.

Violence, IME, shuts down ability to think, act, look down the road and act, IME.

Now is the time for your DD to be proactive and minimize any nightmare scenarios putting her and children in danger, under the control of someone utilizing violence as problem solving tool.

That cannot be in his toolbox, imo.  He has to apologize willingly AND follow up with actions....explain what he did, why he did it and take steps to remedy that problem, then follow up with therapy perhaps and then never ever ever assault or threaten her with assault again.

There's no bravery in pretending....in DIM thinking....denial, ignorance, minimization, IME.

Staying the course, gutting through the situation....allowing him to win her trust back with flowers and a tearful apology won't, IME, lead anywhere but down a slippery slope she can't easily get up.

Once married she loses rights, IME.  The courts don't serve victims of dv, particularly if they spend energy protecting and shielding the person assaulting them, IME.

The cops stop listening.  Attorneys stop.  The courts stop. 

I hope your DD reaches out to dv groups and resources to help her understand the patterns and diffuculties involved, bc now is the time for 90% research and 10% execution, proactivity and 100% compliance from her future husband to resolve thus issue.

When a man hits and terrorized a woman, he's telling her who he is.

His actions are telling her what she needs to know, even as he apologizes and promises never to do it again.

He DID it, and it's in
His
Toolbox.

That's not acceptable.  She deserves better.  She advocates for herself or no one does.

She leaves, or she tells him she won't accept that behavior ever again.  If he touches her in anger or threatens her again she will know he's not interested in have a relationship with her
And
She
Enforces
That Boundary
Always
Without
Hesitation
And
He
Should
Go
To
Jail
For
Assaulting her to prove she's not allowi,g that boundary to be inched back, which seems to be the standard way women handle these things.  It's not good enough.  She's worth more and has every right to require safety.

I hope she leaves confusion behind, accepts this man hits women and listens only to his actions.

((((Bettyanne and dd))))

Once she begins hiding the violence, once she picks up his shame for him.....she'll likely pretzel herself into making excus.....
A little research will show her where this likely leads.

Lighter

You DD has to

Bettyanne

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2021, 06:03:36 PM »
Thank you so much Lighter...........

for all that you said......

Bettyanne........I will write more soon........

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2021, 06:52:52 PM »
((Bettyanne))

You aren't responsible for your daughter's problems.  You can't fix them, and shouldn't try.

Letting her know you believe in her ability to manage her life.....being there for her is huge, ime.

I had to learn how to step out of my daughter's suffering and not carry it with her.  I discovered I didn't neeeed her to be OK in order for me to be OK.  Revelation.

That gave me enough emotional distance to be more responsuve, and less overwhelmed. 

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2021, 02:21:18 PM »
your right and she is a therapist

I had my own mother control or at least wanted to control everything when I was a kid and also an adult

your right.......

Thanks, Bettyanne

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2021, 10:25:22 PM »
this horrible violence affects the whole family. The children know exactly what is going on and the coverup and fake promises and the likelihood it will happen again. It is not safe for them. The adults can choose to live in this opera but the kids don't deserve it.
Yes, these are stressful times but there is help for people who can't or wont control their impulses to be violent. If they don't get help and lots of it, the leave. It is a hard world out there for single moms but it can be done with support.

I think Bettyanne that this is very very stressful for you. Keep writing. Any abuse you suffered will be dredged up and you need to detach from the chaos with people who support you.  I really feel for you, hearing that plea for help when you child experiences violence and injustice is pretty earth shattering. Be Very Nice to Yourself. You have had a shock.

All the best