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"We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« on: May 14, 2023, 01:42:19 PM »
Today I find myself looking my oldest DD in the eye and wishing I'd put down all the things, I thought were important, but can't remember,.....put them down and looked her in the eye more 20 years ago and onward.  I wish I'd looked both my children in the eye and been present with them more.

There's some regret in that, but I'll try to see it without judgment and put it down soon, bc.....
looking her in the eye and being present NOW is all there is; )  Learn the lesson, Lighter!

Youngest DD20 decided to stay home with the Pug while oldest DD and I are at the Lake, going through a closet full of 80yo Stetson hats, colorful cowboy boots and a mutlitude of very cool metal horse show trophies.

DD is more level headed about these things...... I feel like I'm carrying the weight of generations and responsible for every scrap and piece of it, just in case later generations want to care. 

Back to being present with DD!  YES.

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2023, 03:17:20 PM »
Good for you -- great inner self-dialogue. Bravo.

Being a family archivist and feeling that burden is (imo) a sign one is still trying to work out FOO hurts. Keeping or tossing stuff is neutral. I have missed none of it.

If the present provides sturdy anchor and clear purpose, it becomes much easier to think about being simply an animal, what the life cycle is, how stuff distracts and kills presence. Salutations for noticing and challenging the weight of it all, hope you can get to jettisoning with joy.

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2023, 08:17:30 AM »
I think you're right, Hops.  It's interesting the guilt/distress is mostly dispelled by noticing the feelings.  Esp with a neutral person pointing out rabbit holes I lean toward. 

We got a lot done.... there's a downstair's bedroom cobbled together out of antique armoirs set up to serve as walls, with silk draperies on train hardware for a "door."  Two of the three armoirs face the bedroom, with the longest triple armoir open for guests to hang clothes in.  A tiny armoir is full of hunting stuff...very tall, and the third triple armoir faces the BIG room, but has a super long dresser on the back with a huge tall mirror facing the bedroom side.... you can't tell there's a huge armoir behind it.  One of the entrance pieces is a double oven cabinet, for the future kitchen with a cupboard at the top....it's perfect for suitcases as one enters the room.  I'm excited about this..... I can't stop writing about it!

Under the armoirs we wedged unused sofa back cusions to dampen the noise and add privacy... they're out of sight.  Above the armoirs, of different heights, we arranged cowboy hats on lamp bases, some lamps with shades and a bunch of very cool pre WWII horse show trophies..... some are spectacular and, to me, every angle appears as an art installation. DD agreed it was beautiful.... even more beautiful from the side I wasn't working on.  I'm amazed and very happy with it.

Three of the four big stone fireplaces have 3 kinds of flicker bulbs in them to appear as coals and flames... DD thought they were real fires.  The fourth fireplace has a light set up, but has been used for real fires over the winter.  I hear baby birds nesting in that chimney now, so fires are done for the season. Will put flicker bulbs back

We grilled our evening meal and what would become brunch the next morning so the kitchen was messed up only once.  Food was easy and delicious and I wouldn't change a thing.

And I'll post more about the lake on that thread: )

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2024, 02:07:49 PM »
I was looking for a thread where I could post this and Rumi popped up!

I'm a last-minute substitute for covenant group leader tonight and the group's been flagging. Tired old women, and some have retreated to what-I-did and have said little in a good while about what-I-think or how-I-feel.

Coincidentally, my YouTube breakfast included an episode from an Australian show called Insight that I've really enjoyed. It's all about human experiences and how they change people. This episode was A Stranger Saved My Life and what hit me is how un-cynical this program always is. Just direct and simple questions: what happened to you, how has it changed you, how did you feel about it, etc. So I wrote up this for the group:

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Our topic for tonight is HUMANITY, small-scale or large. You can answer one, or any or all if we have time:

1) Do you recall any moment in your life when kindness from a stranger or friend brought you a love of humanity? It may be a moment you remember vividly from childhood, or any time.
2) Do you remember a time when you showed humanity to a stranger, and this moment stayed with you? What happened?
3) In a general sense, do you ever contemplate all of humanity in a way that uplifts you or soothes your heart? What are those thoughts like for you?
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I've always had a vivid memory of something that happened when I was about eight or nine. I really was affection starved. My Dad was kind but also so overworked as a young prof with a whole dept. on his shoulders after his colleague suddenly died, that he didn't have a lot of time. He was always sweet and gentle, but he wasn't greatly demonstrative. I adored him but spent most of my time with my mother who, as y'all have heard, was afflicted by her childhood and showed a sort of hollowness, no emotional connection, and no spontaneous affection. I guess the best way to put it is that I have no memories of tenderness in her eyes, and no spontaneous hugs from her, ever. Her interactions with me weren't intentionally cold and weren't abusive, but there was just a big absence of connection.
When I spent time with other families, I'd often see mothers being warm and affectionate to their kids, or calling them loving nicknames, etc. It wasn't conscious, but I was yearning for that.

So, for the first time I'm allowed to go away to sleepaway camp. We had a funny little exercise at first where we introduced ourselves, and I told everyone, "My name is Honey." Most of the kids ignored that (and me, being the weirdo with all this "over" sensitivity). As did the counselors. Except for one young man. He saw me and recognized there was pain behind this awkward announcement. So every day, he'd look at me at some point and just quietly use my chosen name. I remember it so vividly, and I think that was his humanity toward a sad little girl.

I never forgot that counselor and the memory fills me with warmth and gratitude.

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 10:54:53 AM »
I finally got to this post, Hops.

You're such a powerful writer....I was right there, with you, at camp listening to the counselor call you by your chosen name.

Almost undid me....((Honey.))

How did your Covenant meeting go?

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2024, 12:51:56 PM »
Aww thanks, Lighter. One woman in the group called me by that name too. It was sweet but I hope it ain't a trend! Just a core kind of story from my early pysche. (Hey, I'm still affection starved, but it's more about hoping I have at least one BF before I croak! LOL.) Thank you for being moved by an epic of awkwardness.

The group discussion on Humanity went so well. As ever, they kind of roll their eyes when I come up with a convoluted topic and then they just keep going, and all their anecdotes and answers layer and layer until by the end the group is feeling as though we've been through a shared experience, rather than taken a quiz.

I'm going to take another year out, completely out, next church year though. The volunteer thing is so absorbing and busy right now, and it feeds my soul more.

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2024, 09:27:05 AM »
Take another year out?

What does this mean, Hops?

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2024, 03:41:45 PM »
Just a year out from my present covenant group, which may then fall apart, because the current facilitator who so kindly stepped up to lead it for two years, is leaving too.

Just burned out on it, unfortunately. Tough decision but for me, it's time. This is a voluntary thing and I'm facing that the group isn't digging in in a way that I look forward to. I think we've gone stale, and it's understandable. The initial inspiration of these small-group "ministry" gatherings is that each lasts for one year, and then folks are encouraged to join another. The idea is that this way, new bonds are formed across the congregation. In a natural way, instead, the groups tend to bond tightly and choose to go on together indefinitely, so the "seeding" of closer relationahips doesn't happen. Just silos.

I'm torn about it, but time/mental energy are limited, and it drains me.

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Re: "We are all born of love. Love is our mother." -Rumi
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2024, 11:25:13 AM »
Sounds like it's time to put it down, Hops.  If only for a while.  Will you join another group?

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2024, 02:54:24 PM »
Yes, I let them know last week. They got sad but understood.
I'm not planning to join another this church year (Oct-May). Focus on the main fulfilling things if I can: writing and the Village.

I'll maintain contact with a few of the individuals in the group and nothing prevents me for joining up again after a year. They need new blood!

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