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Limerence
« on: April 20, 2007, 06:44:29 PM »
something I was thinking about earlier when I realised that my all-encompassing crush of last year was all-gone!

Dorothy Tennov called it 'limerence' ~ Limerence is a distinct state that creates that “feeling of being in love”— that state which Hollywood loves to portray as “love”... but limerence is really as far from the genuine article as a zircon is from a true diamond.

It's infatuation, obsession with a romantic fantasy which is fuelled in reality I guess but only just!

And that is what I have done for years so I didn't cheat and to live without sex and romance and affection...

Time to break the habit now though.

Have a good night everyone

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2007, 07:11:13 PM »
woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 

Tell us all about it! We'll keep your secret! You had a good night?

Who is the the lucky guy????? that you Limerenced with?... oops bad grammar!

No!  With whom did you Limerence?

I tease! I Limerenced twice in my life and never will again!!



Thank you for the new word--everyone I know thinks they are smarter than I so I will use that word when I refer to Joe or Bob.

or............Tom, Dick, Harry,
...............Jack, Jiim , Barry.
...............Neil, Norm, Mark.
...............Peter, Gene and Alphonse!

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Izzy

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 10:41:18 PM »
Izzy - read WRITE's post again.  I think you got confused.  Your confession seems to be diametrically opposed to her confession. Though I could be confused myself. - gs

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 10:54:46 PM »
GS
I was just fooling around, happy to learn a new word. Limerence!

I mentioned all those guys, as just false love turned to obsessions and not real love (but they are not real)

I best remain serious!

Love Izzy

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 12:00:59 AM »
The interesting thing is in the relationship books I've been reading it comes up again and again to avoid fantasy in the early stages of a relationship, because if you go on a date and you've been fantasising about commitment and marriage you will fill the emotional gaps and make a relationship that isn't there yet only in your mind! This will either scare off a healthy eprson who wonders why things are rushing and they feel a bit engulfed or leave the fantasist vulnerable to someone's other agenda for wanting to rush things and not know each other proeprly before getting emotionally involved eg. abusive person.

I've always had this huge internal world full of creativity and fantasy but I need to try harder than ever to keep it separate from my real-life emotions and decisions.

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 05:05:43 AM »
If there is an anti limerence class can I be the first to join.

Thank you for teaching me a new word also Write............ this home is full of learning

axa

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 09:34:20 PM »
If there is an anti limerence class can I be the first to join.

I'm not sure I want to lose this most creative side of myself, and I know one day when I meet a good match this side of me will blossom in real life....but I said a while back I thought the fantasy element early in my relationships was giving me some problems.

Part of it is I don't trust too much, so I tend to be a bit testing when i first know someone, and maybe too intense too.

I guess I'm not healed yet, if ever totally- I am incredibly sensitive when people get close and beign bipolar means feeling emotions to the nth degree ( hopefully not N-th degree again... )

Yesterday I read this yesterday:

“It is impossible to fall out of love. Love is such a powerful emotion, that once it envelops you it does not depart. True love is eternal. If you think that you were once in love, but fell out of it, then it wasn't love you were in. There are no 'exit' signs in love, there is only an 'on' ramp.”

I know what it means, but I don't necessarily agree. Love does change over time, and compulsive love goes away entirely, thank G_d!

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 10:46:02 PM »
I like the sound of "Limerence"... the actual word.

I used to love the action too. Much more than I ever loved reality.

I have realized in the past few years how much I love my husband though. He has never been romantic. Never buys me flowers. We both always forget our anniversary.

But he fills up my gas tank. Takes care of the kids so I can do little things with my friends. Cooks nice dinners. Folds laundry. Loves my dog even though he didn't want one.

I am not sure when it kicked in that I like actuality.

Thanks for the topic and new vocab, write :)

Love, Beth
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Re: Limerence
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 10:50:31 PM »
Ditto, Beth

and am I following you around the Board???

xx
Izzy

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 10:52:18 PM »
Was that your shadow? Hee hee...
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Re: Limerence
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 10:55:52 PM »
yep that is izzy sneaking around from room to room.

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2007, 04:12:01 PM »
this topic came back into my head today. I was walking the dog, after a night of poor sleep, a job which I pulled together but I don't enjoy the staff behaviour there, then I get to ex and son and they are both so unmotivated; it's a long-standing problem for me this, ex depresses me. I say problem, I suspect he's often quelled my illness actuall! But I was feeling energetic when I got here and my positivity evaporated in the face of their negativity.

I can take it from ex, but when son tells me to shut up singing and doesn't want to get out and walk with me...well it feels horrible.

I'm trying to stop thinking about the men I have met and doing this limerence thing with one in particular. I wonder if it doesn't do as much emoitonal damage as an actual relationship which doesn't work out?

Anyway, it surely feels like limbo-land.

I can't see any end to this situation, ex is happy and manageable now again of course. So I steel myself for the next round of trying to proceed with divorce....

A friend yesterday said why not just get it over with, then she said why not just stay as you are.

I found myself web-surfing airfares, I feel like running from my problems, which aren't really problems by other people's standards I suppose.

One friend was diagnosed with secondary liver cancer recently, at the same time as with primary pancreas cancer. I guess her prognosis isn't very good.

Another friend who had a brain tumour removed emailed last night three days after the op, remarkable. I was pleased about that.

I feel like I am wallowing in an angst-filled pit of my own making, and the only escapism is limerent thoughts which drive me crazy!

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Re: Limerence
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2007, 04:40:09 PM »
Write - would cerebral or ethereal music help this any? I find that William Byrd's Masses can cure nearly anything - likewise the Brandenburgs or anything by Buxtehude --
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2007, 04:41:55 PM »
-- especially on an iPod.
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Re: Limerence
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 02:32:26 PM »
funny that you mention Buxtehude; our church organist has been playing it for my edification after I commented I really like it and it's a style she plays superbly!

I play BAch preludes and fugues all the time, very orderly music, I love making emotion out of the almost mathematical precision.

You are right it is something cerebral & distracting I need right now.

I'd start dating but it's just a bit too messy until my papers are at least at court again....and to be honest I am not very casual about romantic attachment really, I can go out and have fun as a friend but not be romantic with someone I am not 'into'.

Sometimes I wonder how I get to be so out of step with the rest of our culture! Finally women ghet to sleep around with no strings or being judged and I don't want to  :)

Church was strange first service, I won't take eucharist and I am very descreet but the minister drew a lot of attention to it and the sermon was about how important it is to the church!

I left feeling a bit stunned and wondering if it was personal etc so I went to see him before second service and asked if I was giving offence by being there and not taking part in rituals which are important to others. I told him it's really important to me not to hurt anyone by my presence. He just hadn't thought that there was a multi-faith aspect to what he was saying and his second sermon was much more thoughtful and much better, and I left feeling so much happier and glad I had gone to ask him what he meant rather than gone away taking it personally.

I really believe in Interfaith I think I've mentioned it before, and that it's important to share these things not create walls within walls....

Before I left I had a long chat with the guy shall we call him AL, because he's meant to be my anti-limerence and practice to stop obsessing about someone whilst simultaneously pushing him away. i have realised that is how I have coped as an adult with my sexuality somewhat- fantasy.

Anyway, Al was beign harassed by a young pretty choirgirl and I was able to watch as he expertly dealt with her without hurting her feelings but not encouraging her to hang around either, she seemed like she had a crush, and suddenly I realised why he is so careful about relationships. He's at work, and at church. He needs to be or he'll put himself in compromising positions or hurt someone's feelings by rejecting him.

The girl was so young and so obvious and I was so impressed at how well he dealt with that. It must be tempting to overreact and be cross sometimes.

He didn't mind me being there either, which is good, he was so self-conscious with me for months.

I suspect we will become good friends, our chats are lovely except where we try and approach each other then we go all weird and start arguing about trivia or being all embarassed or one of us runs away!

You would not believe how lacking in self-assurance I am about dating or love relationships, I almost panic, and he seems a bit the same. We are both seemingly confident and not.

I suppose it's all good practice for me, and the bipolar thing means I am perhaps more intense than other people, maybe I can work on that more.

But part of it as y'all heard me whining yesterday, I am so lost emotionally again now I won't be getting divorced for a few more weeks. It's zapping my energy. Ex seems so happy too....

I told y'all I was worried about money, well I'd volunteered to entertain one of the seniors groups at church, the lady came to meet me and we got on well, she asked if I need more work.

So there's a synchronicity going on back-stage even though I am chomping at the bit for my life to be moving on yesterday....

Idiot neighbours got drunk and kept waking me up with their in and out and drama, I opened the door to tell them off and their dog went nuts so I stayed inside. Guess that's another thing to deal with...

I can deal with thesee things I think, I just get overwhelmed I guess and panic or feel like there's no end to it all.

But underneath things are going well too.

Son is much happier. Got him signed up for 3 summer camps.

I have gained 2 pounds which isn't bad for a few weeks of inattention! I do exercise every day though, that makes a difference.

Money is tight but no debt and still a little in savings.

What did someone say recently 'all I have is all I need'.

I need to trust more.