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Twoapenny

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Taming the Guilt
« on: September 11, 2012, 10:53:05 AM »
Hi all,

I'm getting better on the feeling guilty front but I still find it difficult at times!

My sister is the only member of my family I am in touch with, I love her to bits and we're very close but it is difficult at times because we both struggle with our own issues and can both under/over react to things.  One thing I do find very difficult with her is boundaries; she's not great at seeing/respecting them and I'm not great at putting them there or enforcing them.

She came round this morning, early and unannounced.  We had a really busy day today (as we do most days) and I didn't have time for coffee, so I told her it wasn't convenient and suggested a time later in the week.  I know this would have upset her but I also know that my boundary setting was okay, I wasn't rude and I've suggested an alternative so it wasn't a rejection, just a "not right now".

I know I haven't done anything wrong and I know I have nothing to feel guilty about, but I still do.  I've told myself throughout the day that it was okay to do this, that it's okay to set boundaries and that I've done nothing wrong, but still the guilt is there.  Do any of you have any other strategies for getting rid of it?  It will go eventually, I just wondered if anyone else has a tip I could try out?

Many thanks :)

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Re: Taming the Guilt
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 06:26:55 PM »
Just looooooooooving yourself, and recognizing with great compassion that simply saying a simple "No" is a hard thing. And will take practice.

When I did that initial assertiveness training workshop many years ago, I remember how stunned I was when the leader demonstrated that "No, I'm not able/free/amenable to do that" was actually a NEUTRAL adult communication.

It didn't have anything to do with rejecting the other, or being "mean" -- it was the way mature, confident adults simply expressed a fact. No, sorry, I'm unable to do that. (And...repeated as needed, without much emotion attached at all.)

WHO KNEW!
(I know now...but it took a couple decades.)

I do know it gets easier with practice.

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sKePTiKal

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Re: Taming the Guilt
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 07:44:02 AM »
Penny - I don't have any particularly useful advice - but I can comisserate!  ;)

What I've noticed, is that this guilt-reflex happens mostly in setting boundaries with my foo. Other people, not so much. I call it a guilt-reflex, because of course I got habitually programmed to show/feel the appropriate guilt -- whenever I wasn't throwing myself under the bus for my mom or bro. I'm thinking this is one way I was kept "playing my role" in the dysfunctional loop-de-loop. Kind of an emotional blackmail club. Beat her with guilt... so she gives in and does what we want.

It hits me worst, when it's just something little... a thing that happens a lot with "normal" people and is no big deal - with normal people. And I think some of it... is the flip-side of the guilt reflex... my foo ain't normal... so it's as if they have "special status/access" to me -- and because they're "special" the normal boundaries should not apply. So, I end up protecting the people who would have me stay feeling guilty about not anticipating their every need and always, always dropping whatever I'm doing to care for them.

This is a kind toxic guilt, I guess (for want of another word to differentiate from guilt that arises from trespassing someone else's boundaries, or doing something "wrong"). The feeling of guilt has been manipulated to control us -- and allow the foo to continue denying us our boundaries - to perpetuate the need THEY have for enmeshment. The guilt-reflex only sets in on me with FOO; other people who do the same thing invoke anger from me.

As far as I know - what Hops said is the only way to get past it; just keep setting, maintaining your boundaries. If a guilt-reflex pops up - talk it through with someone. I have to check with hubs sometimes, to see if he thinks my feeling is appropriate; if it fits the scenario. Then just endure it (but don't change your boundary!)... and let it go. You're breaking a programmed response and the only thing I know of that can replace one response with another is repetition.
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Re: Taming the Guilt
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 12:11:13 AM »
Hi Twoapenny,

Frankly, I'm a bit timid referencing anything on the board that touches on the spiritual side of life.  But on reading these links I found them to be rich in explaining "false guilt" which is the first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post.  So I googled it.  That's how I stumbled upon the following. A few phrases like 'approval junkie', 'over-yes/under-no', feeling guilty for morally neutral behavior, caught my attention.

Here are two 3 links:

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechallenges/emotional_health/living_without_constant_guilt/the_origins_of_false_guilt.aspx

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechallenges/emotional_health/living_without_constant_guilt.aspx

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechallenges/emotional_health/living_without_constant_guilt/healthy_guilt_vs_false_and_harmful_guilt.aspx

See what you think  :).

tt




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Twoapenny

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Re: Taming the Guilt
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 09:50:01 AM »
Thank you, Hops!  Practise, practise, practise.  It's just weird how your head and your heart don't match up with each other sometimes!  It's made me realise I've let things slip on the boundary front recently, need to start putting those fences back in place :)  Hope things are good with you xx

Hiya Phoenix, yep, definitely harder with family and I find old (in the sense of have known a long time) friends.  More reps, more reps, more reps :)  Thank you :)

Thank you for the links, TT, will definitely have a look at those later on :)