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sKePTiKal:
About telling you were fired. I honestly don't think that is a problem in this situation.

He appears to know some about nboss; and would agree that he's a bit "tetched" (as TT describes it). What I found (quickly) with my old nboss, was that I really didn't have to describe all elaborate, mental/emotional/spiritual pas de deux to other people who knew him - they ALREADY knew that. So, then to simply say "I did this; oops - and then he did this" is quite enough to describe what you endured and keeps you away from the still-touchy emotional side of things. Include your last "critique" session of nboss, too. Seriously - this is more important to the prospective boss, and goes further than the typical resume/portfolio could ever go to demonstrate your worth. (Just skip the personal issues or mention them, but not in detail.) Validate your own judgement of the situation, your own feelings; CLAIM them. And hold that head up. Lots of people put up with same or worse for a paycheck and stability in their lives. It doesn't brand you as any particular type of person, ya know.

People survive abusive situations with their "selves" (worse for wear, but:) intact; they aren't all chronic victim-role players either. I would say that's definitely not who you are and I would watch out for any indication that newboss might want to pigeonhole you there. Put a stop to that quick and in no uncertain terms. It might just be a device he would use to draw you out, but some things can stay personal - right?

In today's world, it seems that technology has become overly complex (and is pushing the envelope of entropy) while there is an oversimplification and over-reductionism of what humanity, the psyche, the soul is. Way too much duality to be real; it's just a sales technique or subtly manipulative  propaganda - either/or. No third path; no AND; no variations on the theme.

Oops; digression has raised it's impertinent little head again... LOL... so I'll stop here.

Hopalong:
Well, I missed my flight by 5 min. Rebooked everything for tomorrow with fingers crossed it won't cause havoc at their end. I think because we're still in the holiday travel period, they'll forgive me. Not hard to understand holiday travel challenges, although the truth is it's my own time mismanagement. Aaaaack.

Thanks, TT for these extra helpful thoughts. You're right, I should be clear and thoughtful about adding value for them--website, revenue, etc. I can't number-crunch enough to tell him he could expect XX% profit, etc., but since my previous company grew rapidly and publicly, I think he'll be able to figure that out. Mainly, if he understands and endorses the ideas for improvements I'll propose, he'll be able to grasp the likely impact on revenue. Branding isn't proven in a direct-data way, except by the infernal SEO and click-counting. (If you don't know what those mean, count yourself fortunate!)

I wouldn't meet again with Nboss to negotiate anything, ever. The situation is way too toxic to imagine dialogue between us of any sort, ever again. I'm relieved that door is closed, and am glad he's firmly on the other side of it. I'm not going to sign anything he handed me, and I'm pretty sure that's the wisest course. With no contract, non-compete or non-disclosure agreement in existence, I'm truly a free woman. I will still be checking with an employment attorney but either way, I'm not signing any agreements with exNboss. His lack of ethics would show up there as much as anywhere, and I don't want to set myself up to be tricked, which could well happen.

As to what I owe exNboss morally, that's a mixed bag. I will stay in touch with my values but I also feel there is nothing immoral about telling the truth (without unnecessary detail) as my life unfolds. That doesn't mean specific "industrial secrets" but it does mean I should not be muzzled. Once you throw someone away out of spite and without notice, they don't exactly owe you continued image polishing. I won't go on a campaign to tear him down or get revenge, but if a question comes up where my only answer could be true or false, I will go with true if it seems fair. If it seems unfair (on the part of possible new company) then I'll answer more vaguely or change the subject.

I think that's the best I can do with that dilemma. I haven't worked in industry except here...but I believe in business, people do change companies all the time, and there must be precedents. I'll go hit the good business outlets and magazines online and see what I can read up about it. That'll help too.

Many thanks, TT, for putting your mind to this. I really appreciate it, since my mind isn't working on all cylinders!

love
Hops

sea storm:
You are so brave and good. I mean you just do the next right thing.
Missed the flight.   Ok.  Must not put self down for anything at this point. There is just too much change and stress. As a friend I would say to you " Please turn this into a John Clease episode where he is frantically going for an important job interview.

Stay in the moment, dear Hops.  You have tons of transferable skills. Problem solving, prioritizing, brilliant editing and writing skills, delegating, team player, funny, sense of poetry, experience in the industry. I don't know exactly what you do but it transfers.

One step at a time. No use over preparing.

I can't think of what to say but want you to know that I can feel how friggin stressful this is for you and I wish I could help more. You have a team of cheerleaders and let their voices be the loudest in your head. You go girl. You are awesome. You are loved.


Sea

Hopalong:
Thank you so much, Sea.
Your kindness and perceptiveness just come across like waves.

Really. So felt.

(And they're not mad at me about the flight and it's all set for tomorrow.)

Thank you for always thinking the best of me.

love
Hops

sKePTiKal:
Grow wings and fly, Hops... metaphorically speaking... into a new adventure.

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