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lighter

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Busting FABs
« on: June 21, 2016, 04:12:16 AM »
So.... today I will bust a FAB to begin my morning.

I FEEL _____________ ABOUT ________________ BECAUSE______________.

I feel intensely driven about getting this RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFF's PETITION in because that little rat fink bastard has harmed me and my children (likely for reasons he believes are rather gallant) because I feel my efforts will either shut this entire legal morass down OR be one step short, and spurr another one, two or three rounds.

I feel I'm walking a mind field.

I fell I'm on the edge of making choices that make sense, in the moment, but down the road will weaken my position and strengthen the IL's position, who aren't supposed to be involved at this point, but who are obviously calling the shots, which I think everyone is past pretending.  I think.

So.......

this morning I have my body back..... things sometimes go amok when we come and go under tremendous pressure... the body does odd things, IME.

This morning I have my war paint on.  This morning I awake with the Amazon bonfire burning from the past two nights, and I pick up my weapons.....
Legal Briefs, e mails, Responses, Transcripts, letters, and notes on conversations, and dates, and exact wording matched carefully to statements in other documents, some referring only to numbers...... "Defendant denies statements made in numbers 8, 10, 14, and 23.  There is combing through.  There are sticky notes, and little torn off pieces of sticky notes, and there are the outrageous egregiously erroneous statements made by opposing counsel and his little minion to the ILs, and I've gotten past the body rocking white hot chemical dumps that knocked me back from that document more times than I can count the first day I tried to read through it in it's entirety.

I can do that now, and I'm taking it line by line, and I'm pulling the necessary documents (I've done days of research leading up to this point, it's not really hard, just tedious and..... ) ANOTHER FAB!

I feel tremendous sadness about clever sociopaths manipulating the justice system (esp in family court involving domestic violence and abuses of all types) because it crushes victims mercilessly with that intention, and it happens over and over and over again, usually leading to victims BEING CRUSHED with the help of the legal system.  The legal system is a good system, on the whole, but it doesn't factor in the sociopaths and disordered as a matter of course, and it seldom holds them accountable when they're busted in the cold harsh light of the courtroom, if you can limp your way there time and again till all the lies, distortions, and......

There.

I said it.  I went there.  Looks pretty dramatic on review, but it's the truth, and there's no devil involved.  It's just good old fashioned human on human stuff, and it takes too long to get to that final courtroom when dealing with those who lie, cheat and steal as a matter of course, while we tell the truth, stand up and take responsibility and spend the majority of our time disproving erroneous negatives, that take the focus off the criminal/evil/improbable things the sociopaths/disordered abusive people are doing, especially when they're doing it TO children and or/leveraging childrens' safety against the people/person who is invested in shielding children from the adult struggle, IME.

It's difficult to fight, AND protect children from being crushed by truths that are potentially soul crushing, IME. 

Recently my youngest DD13 asked to see the ILs.... I think she wants to explain to them what their actions (and she knows a small fraction of what they've done to us only bc I couldn't shield them from the summer of psych evals) have DONE TO HER, and her sister.  I think she wants to hear what they have to say for themselves and to hold them accountable, bc I still have a war room filled with boxes of documents, and we're still fighting in the courts, and she wants to face them, and honestly speak to them about HER TRUTH, which is important, and she should be able to speak, right? 

I think she believes they'll see the error of their ways...... or give her a chance to unload on them, and set them straight, whatever the outcome.

Her words scared the hell of me FOR her.

What do sociopaths DO when faced by someone they once had control over, and now stands powerfully before them armed with the truth, more courage than a child should muster (lots of ignorance involved, I realize) and that truth goes to the truth of the biggest lies they've told themselves, and others in order to skirt blame, responsibility, and accountability for the evil things they've done, and continue doing?  I realize "evil" sounds very dramatic, but bear with me.

WHAT do I picture?  I picture very bad sudden things, and I want to say that there is language in these legal documents that began frightening me several years back about "unascertained or unborn beneficiaries" that require a GAL be put in place at great expense to my children.

Ummmm..... WTH?

When you're fighting dragons, and everyone around you doesn't SEE dragons.... they see frail, old, sad, bitter people THEY SAID would give up 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 year ago.  They always say it will be over if I......insert whatever compromise that scrapes my issues off their plate you wish. Insert them, and move ahead to the next battles, for there have always been more, despite their demeaning, minimizing, shaming assertions based on stupidity, ignorance, minimization AND their humanity.

They can't fathom what these people have done, are doing WILL DO, for God's sake.  They've explained it away, and used the words..... ."Who would have guessed they'd DO that?"  A LOT.  I have very good instincts about these things, but I also have past conduct, a memory and battle scars that TELL me what is likely going to happen. 

They've used those words A LOT,  "I had no idea, they CAN'T DO that".... and I TOLD them it would happen A LOT, so they knew, even as they were judging me, dismissing me, and punishing me for stating a very ugly set of facts that made no sense, and were difficult to understand.

OK, there is no real understanding of the things disordered people DO, so I'm going back to work now.

Good morning Amazons.

Lighter in full fur, leather strap regalia, war paint ON........

at 10:30, I ride.

Mud...... remind me how this always goes, please.
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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2016, 06:22:38 AM »
Oh Lighter.  I can only say that we are all right behind you, sending you our love and best thoughts.  I can empathise so much with the things you have written; how it feels to be fighting what seem to be invisible forces, often alone and without support, how it feels to be fighting to protect your children from things that others aren't convinced exist, how utterly exhausting it is to drag yourself through pages and pages of waffle, obfuscation, comments that have no real meaning or context, allegations that you cannot prove or disprove and so on.

I can understand completely your D's desire to speak to your ILs and tell them straight.  I can remember when I thought everyone else in the world was reasonable and level headed and that I just needed to tell people how their actions affected me.  And I can remember the pain and the hurt and the horror when those people turned on me, ramped up the level of attack and worked so hard to discredit and disown me, whilst protecting those who had abused and harmed me.  She has your strength and integrity, Lighter, she is very much her mother's daughter :)

I am sat currently looking at my wall of files, having just sifted through another big batch that needed dealing with and I have always found this war of words that goes on through paper incredibly draining and very difficult to cope with.  I can only say that your strength and courage have always stood you in good stead, as have your intelligence and your ability to organise this mass of information time and time again (thank goodness for post it notes!  Where would we be without them :) ).

I hope this is over again soon, Lighter, I can't believe they are going through this all over again.  I hope it doesn't drag you down too much.  Keep posting so we know how you're getting on xx

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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2016, 09:56:14 PM »
Well, Tup......

My 10:30 call went amazingly well.  Considering I was completely gobsmacked over HOW I would get all those documents, sans sticky notes, scanned and TO my attorneys..... I really needed 12 more hours, but everything worked out even better, bc not every sticky note was relevent. 

I had many many many.....

that were.

I have a stew on the stove..... organic, and beautiful with veggies from the garden.  I have things working for my DD15's highest future.  I have my house in order, relatively, and I'm so very very calm right now. 

BTW my attorney can't believe how arrogant and stupid opposing counsel and Trustee is. 

That doesn't mean this fight will be..... easy,
but it does brings me comfort in the moment.

(((Tupp)))  I honestly can't believe the insanity your mother put you and your son through.  Your son. 

But I know in my bones every word you've written here is the truth... your truth.

Mud..... you post to me on the Orlando thread, but not this thread?
Pull out your little fur outfit, and.....
remind me.


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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 02:11:49 AM »
Well, Tup......

My 10:30 call went amazingly well.  Considering I was completely gobsmacked over HOW I would get all those documents, sans sticky notes, scanned and TO my attorneys..... I really needed 12 more hours, but everything worked out even better, bc not every sticky note was relevent. 

I had many many many.....

that were.

I have a stew on the stove..... organic, and beautiful with veggies from the garden.  I have things working for my DD15's highest future.  I have my house in order, relatively, and I'm so very very calm right now. 

BTW my attorney can't believe how arrogant and stupid opposing counsel and Trustee is. 

That doesn't mean this fight will be..... easy,
but it does brings me comfort in the moment.

(((Tupp)))  I honestly can't believe the insanity your mother put you and your son through.  Your son. 

But I know in my bones every word you've written here is the truth... your truth.

Mud..... you post to me on the Orlando thread, but not this thread?
Pull out your little fur outfit, and.....
remind me.


Lighter

I'm glad the call went well and yes, it's amazing how much more quickly we can get things done than we think at times.  Your attorney sounds supportive which is good.  And although I'm sad that you're having to deal with this again, I'm glad you're doing it in your lovely home, with both your kids doing so well and I can smell that stew bubbling away on the stove.  Do they have any idea of a timeframe on this?  I'm hoping there's a chance some sensible person can end the whole thing pretty quickly this time? xx

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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 05:50:13 PM »
Tupper:

Conversation with attorney this morning went like this....
he floated bottom line deal by opposing counsel, and was surprised he was willing to consider it.

They either take it or leave it, and we continue preparing for trial.

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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 02:13:07 AM »
Tupper:

Conversation with attorney this morning went like this....
he floated bottom line deal by opposing counsel, and was surprised he was willing to consider it.

They either take it or leave it, and we continue preparing for trial.

Lighter

Well I hope they all vanish into the ether quickly, good grief!  One of the things that makes me work so hard on myself now is that I really, really don't want to spend my later years being angry and bitter and making other people's lives a misery.  Imagine the difference in the world if people worked as hard to be kind as they do to damage and destroy?  Sending you a big hug, you have coped with such an amazing amount already and I really hope this stops soon xxx

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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 11:05:50 AM »
I like your "FAB", Lighter. And your outfit needs some "shiny", too - polished steel perhaps.

The military term for these repeated assaults is "harrying". You're being forced to constantly react to them, which totally disrupts the focus and time and energy you're putting into rebuilding a family life and teaching the girls that they have survived something awful - but they CAN go on and be happy and living life again. I'd be PISSED OFF and heads would roll.

But doing that legally is probably the most effective. They will attempt this one too many times and the karma wheel will be pointing directly at them, at which point someone will step in (the judge perhaps) and give them a reason to "be careful what you wish for". (That's just a fantasized narrative that would be ultimately satisfying that there IS justice in this world... reality is likely to be something else. No one can say for sure, how things will go.)

All a person can do, is what you've already got well in hand - the homework, the nit-picky point by point rebuttal and defense, and now you've just got trust your lawyer, and yourself, to be able surf the waves as they roll in.

My personal opinion, is that you're probably a qualified paralegal by now (in skillset) and they are desperately clinging at any straws they can imagine, and stooping lower than worms, for the mere satisfaction of causing trouble. You probably need to set aside time to a) not think about it at all and b) devote time to you, home & the girls... and not let this consume your every waking minute. (D#2 and I have a rule that we don't discuss D#1 after 8 pm. No exceptions.)

I've revisiting old crap, too. More on that in my thread.

Success is never final, failure is never fatal.

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Re: Busting FABs
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 11:32:22 AM »
Eh.... I stopped wondering what the world would be like if toxic people used their powers for good, instead of evil,, Tupp.

It was easier once I saw good people step up, and do kind/considerate/decent things for no reason other than they knew it was the right thing to do.

Things balance out.

Now I see people as gifts or lessons.

Amber:
 Lawyer just called.... the opposing counsel just accepted our offer verbally.  In his words "they're ready to fold."

 My response... "I'll believe it when I see signed documents."

I'm casually walking by my trial prep area contemplating the idea of NOT finishing up, and..... it makes me laugh.  Your post was pretty spot on, IMO.  They have stooped low, and they've never missed an opportunity to pretend settle, over and over and over, so we'd be harried with starting stopping starting trial prep, over and over, nad I'm not doing that any more.  It doesn't even cross my mind, bc settling is only ever possible if we're going to trial.   

I'm almost done, and I want it over and put away without having to fear dragging it back out again IF they jump sideways.

ONE JERK from opposing counsel and everything will be push button ready, and I have the biggest baddest attorneys in the yard pointed at them, and he already knows not to try to talk me out of trial, or worse yet, INTO more settlement discussions.

Hmm..... I guess I could go back with ONE offer... the one I wanted to propose in the first place.... I get all my attorney fees and costs paid.  I'm not budging the other direction.... that won't be possible, and I have complete peace with that, come what may.... then I remember my children.... 

Protecting children.  WHO uses the safety of children as leverage??   They do, and at this point we can prove it.

::Sigh::

There's a good deal of peace in knowing what my response will be, no matter what they do.  No more wringing of hands, and gnashing teeth.

Thanks for input on limiting the chaos.... putting time frame on it..... yes.  I really do hope they sign this Agreement, and walk away.

I hope revisiting your stuff is productive, ((Amber.))

Lighter

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