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Sela

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« Reply #795 on: August 27, 2006, 11:12:13 AM »
Hi all:

Hey Moon!  I've only heard part of that before.  Very cool!   8)

Plucky:  It's in moments like that that one feels truly sane eh?  So glad that your children can see through all the craziness and know who to come to to confirm their own sanity.  (((((((Plucky))))))  You're doing something majorly right.

While surfing around I found the following.  Even though he refers to a scripture and mentions the "d" word, I think what he has to say is valuable, even to those who are not inclined toward listening to preachers.  I think I've dealt with pain the first 4 ways sometimes and I'm trying to do the 5th way, more and more often.

I find the implication that coping with pain in unhealthy ways (number 1 to 4) is somehow "crooked" to be unfair but he probably means going more toward a direct path to healing, rather than some derogatory reference.  I think his visual of a pile of twigs sounds very accurate and I found his words ring true to me.  Here it is:


"Many times when we feel hurt or carry a deep pain in our hearts we choose to run away from the pain. It may seem a lot easier to ignore the pain and to tell ourselves that "time heals all."

But as time passes and the pain remains, it begins to affect our lives in ways that we may not even realize. It is as if for every hurt that we ignore we add an emotional twig or small branch to a pile of hurt. With time the twigs will add up to a pile of wood that stands high in the air and is ready to be ignited into a big flame. When these piles of figurative wood are ignited by a tense situation or hurtful word it creates an intense fire that burns and hurts us and others around us.

There are five ways that we can deal with hurt and pain in our lives. The first is denial. When we act in denial we choose to ignore the pain and tell ourselves it is not there. Someone once told me that denial stands for "don't even know I am lying."

Philosopher Denis Diderot said, "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth that we find bitter."

The second way we can choose to deal with pain is to blame others for our pain. When we do this we build resentments (add more twigs to the pile) and build a wall between us and others.

The third way people can deal with pain is to become consumed with their pain. This is what we would call depression. The person thinks so much about their pain that they are swallowed up with the pain. There may also be some self-hatred and self-blame involved.

The fourth avenue some take to deal with pain is to escape. This can be done by running to alcohol, drugs, sex, eating, gambling, playing video games, etc. This numbs the pain temporarily but the pain grows in time.

All of these ways to deal with pain lead to the twigs piling up and pain controlling the person's life. The fifth way we can deal with pain is to confront the pain gradually by being honest that it is there and dealing with what is alive in us (our hurt feelings and unmet needs).

Proverbs 10:9 tells us that "The man of integrity walks securely, but he who takes crooked paths will be found out."(NIV)

When we confront our pain we face the demons in our life. We bring what we are tempted to ignore and hide into the open, into the light. When we don't do this the pain continues to fester and infect our life. It may manifest itself in hatred, resentments, discrimination, revenge, selfishness, rudeness, anger, etc. It becomes evident to all that we have a problem.

Henry Nouwen writes in his book The Inner Voice of Love, "There are two extremes to avoid: being completely absorbed in your pain and being distracted by so many things that you stay far away from the wound you want to heal."

Hopefully we will not take the crooked paths to dealing with pain but rather the highway to healing our pain. The road which entails being honest with our present feelings about something someone said or did and realizing what we need. When we realize what we need we can seek ways to get that need met today. We also can then do the work of speaking truth to ourselves. At times it may be helpful to have another person do this because they may be able to see the truth we cannot see.

By confronting our pain we will be doing the work of walking through our pain instead of avoiding it. It is by doing this work that we can escape the dungeons of darkness that pain traps us in and see the light to freedom. "

Written by Eddie Zacapa

Sela

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« Reply #796 on: August 27, 2006, 11:30:13 AM »
Hi Sela,

Thank you for posting this article about our hurts and the best way to deal with them.  I find it very helpful.

Pennyplant
"We all shine on, like the moon, and the stars, and the sun."
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« Reply #797 on: August 28, 2006, 09:46:53 AM »
Good morning Penny:

Thankyou for reading and posting.  I'm glad it helps.  It helps me too.

Hope you have a lovely day!

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« Reply #798 on: August 30, 2006, 12:59:29 PM »
Interesting things our sons can teach us:



1.) A king size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 sq. ft. house 4 inches deep.

2.) If you spray hair spray on dust bunnies and run over them with roller blades, they can ignite.

3.) A 3-year old Boy's voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant.

4.) If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough to rotate a 42 pound Boy wearing Batman underwear and a Superman cape. It is strong enough, however, if tied to a paint can, to spread paint on all four walls of
a 20x20 ft. room.

5.) You should not throw baseballs up when the ceiling fan is on. When using a ceiling fan as a bat, you have to throw the ball up a few times before you get a hit. A ceiling fan can hit a baseball a long way.

6.) The glass in windows (even double-pane) doesn't stop a baseball hit by a ceiling fan.

7.) When you hear the toilet flush and the words "uh oh", it's already too late.

8.) Brake fluid mixed with Clorox makes smoke, and lots of it.

9.) A six-year old Boy can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year old Man says they can only do it in the movies.

10.) Certain Lego's will pass through the digestive tract of a 4- year old Boy.

11.) Play dough and microwave should not be used in the same sentence.

12.) Super glue is forever.

13.) No matter how much Jell-O you put in a swimming pool you still can't walk on water.

14.) Pool filters do not like Jell-O.

15.) VCR's do not eject "PB & J" sandwiches even though TV commercials show they do.

16.) Garbage bags do not make good parachutes.

17.) Marbles in gas tanks make lots of noise when driving.

18.) You probably DO NOT want to know what that odor is.

19.) Always look in the oven before you turn it on; plastic toys do not like ovens.

20.) The fire department usually has a 5-minute response time.

21.) The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy.

22.) It will, however, make cats dizzy.

23.) Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy.

24.) 80% of Women will pass this on to almost all of their friends, with or without kids.

25.) 80% of Men who read this will try mixing the Clorox and brake fluid.

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« Reply #799 on: August 30, 2006, 01:13:22 PM »
 :D

  I can personally attest to the validity of 75% of these statements, some of which were proven true by my daughters!  :o

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« Reply #800 on: September 01, 2006, 09:54:20 AM »
Build Quality Into Your House


An elderly carpenter was ready to retire. He told his employer-contractor of his plans to leave the house building business and live a more leisurely life with his wife enjoying his extended family. He would miss the paycheck, but he needed to retire. They could get by.

The contractor was sorry to see his good worker go and asked if he could build just one more house as a personal favor. The carpenter said yes, but in time it was easy to see that his heart was not in his work. He resorted to shoddy workmanship and used inferior materials. It was an unfortunate way to end his career.

When the carpenter finished his work and the builder came to inspect the house, the contractor handed the front-door key to the carpenter.  "This is your house," he said, "my gift to you." 

What a shock! What a shame! If he had only known he was building his own house, he would have done it all so differently. Now he had to live in the home he had built none too well.

So it is with us. We build our lives in a distracted way, reacting rather than acting, willing to put up less  than the best. At important points we do not give our best effort.  Then with a shock we look at the situation we have created and find that we are now living in the house we have built. If we had realized, we would have done it differently.

Think of yourself as the carpenter. Think of your life as the house. Each day you hammer a nail, place a board or erect a wall, build wisely.  It is the only life you will ever build.  Even if you live it for only one day more, that day deserves to be lived graciously and with dignity.

The plaque on the wall says, "Life is a do-it-yourself project, do it to the best of your ability."

Author Unknown


PS:  Even if some of us have done some shoddy carpentry, in the past, it's possible to make repairs and/or renovations starting right now! 

Have a great week end all!

:D Sela

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« Reply #801 on: September 04, 2006, 02:51:23 PM »



CH, (and anyone who cares to weigh in),

[q]Jesus said:   ... watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.    Luke 17:3[q]

I think the key words ares, your brother.  To me this implies a fellow believer.  Also, forgiving in this verse seems to be left open ended or not required unless there is repentance.  What do you think? 

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« Reply #802 on: September 04, 2006, 05:57:14 PM »
Sela -
Thank you for the boys. I laughed out loud.
Thank you for the carpenter - It hits so close to home - literally much less figuratively. I sighed deeply.

TT -
New York Times bookreivew covered a book re: forgiveness today.  The big think about forgivness is not what it does for the other but what it does for you. 

In this particular verse the logic requires forgiveness in response to repentance but it is silent on forgiveness without.  But there is much literature about the gift that forgiveness offers those of us forgiving.  One of my favorites is, "Forgiving Dead Man walking."

Being in a state of unforgiveness keeps your locked in bitterness which increases the stress you live with.  It can be poisonous to your system.  Forgiving someone does not mean that their actions were acceptable.  And you do not even have to tell someone that you have forgiven them. 

I have forgiven my brother for a gross act of unkindness to me.  But there is no need for me to say anything to him.  That would simply give him another opportunity to say something caustic to me.  No need to open that box.

Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #803 on: September 04, 2006, 09:03:14 PM »
Hi Teartracks,

  I agree that our "brother" in that passage (Luke 17:3) is a fellow believer with whom we are one in Christ.

  Another key word in that passage is the second "if". Without true repentance there is no forgiveness. True repentance will bear fruit of the change of will and heart and be far, far more than a mere "I'm sorry".

  I like the way it's phrased here:

Why should we resolve differences between our brethren?


(1) To maintain peace in the body of Christ (Eph. 4:1-3). Whenever there is friction and turmoil in the body it hinders people from entering into worship and receiving from God's Word. It hinders people from coming to Christ, creates an uninviting atmosphere for visitors, and can even grieve the Holy Spirit (Eph. 4:30-32).

(2) So Satan cannot gain advantage over us (2 Cor. 2:10-11). For our own spiritual well-being, we must be quick to resolve our differences with brethren and forgive. Satan can hinder our spiritual life, and even deceive us into apostasy, through harbored bitterness or unforgiveness (Matt. 18:35).

(3) To restore a Fallen Brother (Gal. 6:1). Christians must make every attempt to restore brethren who fall into sin. Especially when the transgression has been committed against you personally, your love for your brother's spiritual well-being demands that you confront the brother so that he might be reconciled to God.


Good topic, Tt.

Hope

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« Reply #804 on: September 05, 2006, 12:41:31 AM »
Hi all:

GS:  Thankyou for reading and laughing and sharing your thoughts.  You seem very wise.   Glad you're here!

My weigh in:  Here's what I go by....what seems like the big picture to me:

"Forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who tresspass against us..."

Clear, concise and seems fairly fair.  We will indeed reap what we sow, I bet.

 :D Sela

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« Reply #805 on: September 05, 2006, 01:03:17 AM »



Sela,

That'll work for me!

tt

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« Reply #806 on: September 05, 2006, 05:14:14 PM »
Hi All  ,

I am relating and understanding the world in the most adult way I ever have in my life.That has meant being totally honest about my feelings and my family each of them being totally honest.Well the work with the T is not easy but the honesty
we have is so worth the work .We each in our own way are reaching for trust in ourselves and each other.This is a good thing.
I have learned a great deal here.I have been honest with N  too.When I say my family it is Mr moon and my 2 girls.
A true Blessing from GOD.

With so much Love,

MoonLight
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« Reply #807 on: September 05, 2006, 05:20:10 PM »
P.S.   SELA DID YOU START THIS THREAD ? WHO IS ANONYMOUS?  8)

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« Reply #808 on: September 05, 2006, 11:50:50 PM »
Hello tt:

Glad for you!

Hey Moon:

It's wonderful that you're filling up with so many good thngs.  Glad for you too!

Yep.  I started this thread......waaaaaaaaaay back......when I was GFN (Guest for now).  I think I own up to it somewhere after the first few pages.  There's a lot of stuff in this here thread!

Your comments on honesty reminded me of this story about it's value:



The Cherry Tree


When George Washington was about six years old, he was made the wealthy master of a hatchet of which, like most little boys, he was extremely fond. He went about chopping everything that came his way.

One day, as he wandered about the garden amusing himself by hacking his mother's pea- sticks, he found a beautiful, young English cherry tree, of which his father was most proud. He tried the edge of his hatchet on the trunk of the tree and barked it so that it died.

Some time after this, his father discovered what had happened to his favorite tree. He came into the house in great anger, and demanded to know who the mischievous person was who had cut away the bark. Nobody could tell him anything about it.

Just then George, with his little hatchet, came into the room.

"George," said his father, "do you know who has killed my beautiful little cherry tree yonder in the garden? I would not have taken five guineas for it!"

This was a hard question to answer, and for a moment George was staggered by it, but quickly recovering himself he cried: --

"I cannot tell a lie, father, you know I cannot tell a lie! I did cut it with my little hatchet."

The anger died out of his father's face, and taking the boy tenderly in his arms, he said: --

"My son, that you should not be afraid to tell the truth is more to me than a thousand trees! yes, though they were blossomed with silver and had leaves of the purest gold!"
 

  by: M.L.Weems, Good Stories for Great Holidays

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Our biological fathers were so deprived Moon.  So glad for your discovery of what is truly rich.

 :D Sela

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« Reply #809 on: September 06, 2006, 04:45:09 AM »
Sela  ,ITS OK NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS OF REAL VALUE IN LIFE.

I say sweet peas and mauve tulips are VERY important AND Love in one's heart .................................................................
I was so confused when I came here and you and Portia would not let me give up on myself and helped me though the fear.

I have a story from when  my twin and I were very young we were sitting on my Grandma Rose's porch shucking peas and grandma would let us help even though we usually missed the bowl.
And my grandma was the sweetest Grandma, she always told us Bible verses and how the streets in heaven were gold.Then we went inside.
She would hide candy in her little house and my twin brother and I would run in and hunt all over the house for the candy.Then she would do her laundry .She took in laundry at that time.I remember her hands twisting and wringing out the wash.

Also I remember she worked hard and was so kind and good.Grandma Rose would then iron AND finish her laundry.
She would  tell stories as she ironed I remember the sweet sound of her voice.And Sela this is so funny I love to iron clothes to this day because of the sweet memories of my Grandma Rose.She is with me always.My Grandpa Johnny worked on the railroad .My mothers father he was so gentle.

Later after she passed I was ten or eleven and I dreamed of Grandma Rose she was in heaven and she was old at first then she dived into a great spiritual blue waters and she could swim and breathe under the water and when she was in Heaven under the water she became young again and I saw her in my dream happy and walking in heaven on streets paved with gold.
Funny what a 10 year old will dream.

   I REMEMBERED THIS BECAUSE YOU MADE ME THINK OF SWEET PEAS AND MAUVE TULIPS

MoonLight     p.s. This Grandma was my sweet mother's mother  :D
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