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I need help to survive
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2005, 11:02:39 PM »
Hi Joey,

I can totally relate to your story and your dilemma.  I have completely detatched from my N Mom, Uncle and Brother.  The most painful relationship pattern with my M was I would try to be perfect and do whatever I could to please her and I would still face rejection.  Of course, N rejection is more bizarre, twisted and hurtful than your run-of-the-mill rejection.  

I am a Christian, or more accurately, a Jewish Believer in Christ,  :shock:  and have deeply struggled with the "Honor thy Mother and Father" Commandment.  However, when it comes down to it, I am honoring her.  I have quit trying to change or fix her.  I have accepted the reality of her severe mental illness and am doing all I can to heal so that I can parent my children in a way that pleases God.  

I pray for my Mom and other family members.  I do want the best for them.  Sometimes as a natural part of the grief process I get real angry.  :evil:  But, how could I not get angry?  They have been mean and hurtful!      

I understand about the importance of the first three years of a person's development.  However, you seem to be pretty sane in your writing.  God promises we will find Him when we seek Him.  I'm holding Him to that. :)

Take care Joey.

Chutzbagirl

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its been a long road
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2005, 03:55:24 AM »
I can understand how you feel..I was raised by a N mother,abused by my father and have  a N brother and grandmother  and now i am in a N relationship. Until recently i had no idea what was going on in my life and why i suffered from such saddness and depresion. I could not understand why i felt sick when i was around my mother (anger,stomach aches and horrible migrains) I no longer have  much contact with my mother,my dad passed away .I send her cards and call once in a great while but she NEVER calls me or even bothers to see if i am alive. When i do call her or send her a gift she will say "why havent you beeen calling me" Meanwhile i wll hear nothing from her for months and months. I beleive that honor is something that is given when it is deserved. Iam now in a situation with my b/f and have come to realize he is a N,one with very strong N traits. It seems my childhood has come back to haunt me. It has been a nightmare,one that i have been trying to climb out of but it seems i keep getting sucked back in...
I think my constant feelings of NOT being loved and NOT being good enough have trapped me in the this recent realtionship.
I can rememebr as a child (about 4 or 5) When  I was having a horrible night mare. (I had many). I went to my mothers room for comfort and she slapped me in the face and threw me out telling me that i was a selfish brat because i had woke her. It is a small thing,but i rememebr the fear and the lonleness of that night. Now when my b/f threatens to leave,i feel it all over again. Thne abandenment that i felt then
I am working though my pain. This is all new to me I had no idea what a N was,let alone how it ran through my family
This board has helped me so much
I come here at night when i cant sleep and when i need to know im not the only one that has gone through this. Not many can understand. N's have a very good act .(My mothers was the poor victim that gave her life up for her children) I no longer feel anger toward her. Only saddness.
Thank you to all of you on here
You have been great..
Lotus

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Re: Thanks
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2005, 04:54:17 AM »
Quote from: Joey
For all of you that have sent me a reply and encouragement so quickly, I can never thank enough.  :o  I have been told by three different psychs that the psychological damage done to a child's brain the first three years of life can create a person prone to anxiety and depression.  Makes parenting a scarry thing doesn't it?  :cry:


Hiya Joey.

Your psychs are right.  You may well be prone to depression, as I am.  And for the same reason.  But you are not defined by that depression, any more than you are defined by the abuses you suffered.

The one thing you learn from this site is that adult children of Ns - if they escape the dreaded N themselves - can be very empathic, very caring people, and often make the very best parents.  We have excellent examples of what not to do all around us.   :lol:   You will find that we have a great sense of humour, and the ability to laugh at our own lives, and at those of our N relations.  And it is qualities like this which will help you - and us - to find a path through the difficult times.

As for the honor thy father and thy mother bit.  I too find this part of faith difficult to cope with.  It generally upsets me, not because I feel guilty about the way I treat my parents, but because, as others have said, I miss having parents at all.  In my own case I substitute Our Lord as my father, and Our Lady as my mother, and then I can give the due honor that is expected.  At Easter I bought some flowers 'for my mother', and then put them next to a statue of Our Lady, and lit a candle to her.  This allows me to show my love for my mother, without getting entangled in the N person with that supposed role, for whom every gift has its price.  Perhaps someone from a freer church tradition could use the church as mother instead.  

I do not treat my actual parents with disrespect, but I do keep my distance from them emotionally.  I visit from time to time, but I allow them to know nothing of my hopes, dreams and fears.  I drink tea, then I go away again.  This is not showing disrespect; it is following the pattern they set over the years.  

They cannot have back what they did not first give to me.  I do have a lot of love, somewhere, but I save it for people who would know what it is, and what to do with it.  Not those who would deep freeze it and then keep it forever as a trophy.