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N-Jaded

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« on: April 24, 2005, 07:56:44 PM »
Well, yesterday after a request I asked nicely for was ignored and again disrespected.  I finally got mad.  
He had started hiding things after we agreed that nothing would be taken from the house until the judge decided who was to take what.  So after he dis'd me I took a couple of things he was hiding and moved them to let's say a new hiding place. And I also took his Sunday  paper to work with me this morning. :D  I don't know which pissed him off worse but he is plenty mad...left  me a real nice letter tonight.  I shouldn't of done it.  I stooped to his childish level, and again I'm only hurting myself in the long run.

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 10:09:58 PM »
Njaded:  Don't be afraid of his reaction or feel bad about what you did...so you "stooped", so what?  Robin is right, it wouldn't make a spit of difference anyway...you just handed him something to get pissed about,  but he'd find something to be mad at anyway.  My ex is angry at the sun coming up in the morning!  Blah blah blah....that's essentially how you should "hear" his letter.
Hope you had a nice cup of coffee and a scone while reading the paper!

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2005, 11:58:07 PM »
N-jaded, I wouldn't be surprised if he (secretly?) had more respect for you now.  Or at least maybe more fear. :twisted:  I don't recommend keeping that kind of thing up, but I totally understand the frustration of trying to be the "good' one all the time.  Sometimes you just hit your limits.  Yours seems pretty mild.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2005, 03:06:21 AM »
N-jaded-- I think it's cool that you did that.  Now maybe he'll think twice about hiding things.  Of course, he might decide to do it more, but he was already doing it so.... ?  They are so hard to predict sometimes that it isn't clear that you can do anything "wrong" at this point anyway.

My sister stole a lot of things from me throughout childhood and still has some of them.  Some of the stuff actually matters to me, like jewelry mom and dad gave me for special occasions.  It has occured to me to steal it back.  I never have and I see that this behavior would not be at the top of the page in a "how to be super-well-adjusted" self-help book but.... sometimes things we do are symbolic.  

When you took the stuff back you were symbolically saying that not everything is his to do with as he likes.  You were rejecting his implicit statement that he can behave any old way that pleases him and that you will let him.  And taking the newspaper was a harmless way of explaining to him that you are a person with power, too.  It's not as if it's so tough for him to go buy another newspaper....

It's funny he wrote you an angry letter.  Because were you allowed to be angry at what -he- did?  I think not.  So screw him.  (Sorry, my language has gotten atrocious).

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2005, 05:53:01 AM »
I'm not sure where his mind is at. Nor do I really want to know.  But to me, the very fact that he started to hide things to begin with said to me that he had every intention of taking them. These are material things, which can be replaced... I don't really care who gets them (but he doesn't know that)  Frankly, it's his arrogant sense of entitlement that I am so frustrated with and I guess I wanted to punish him for that.  He did finally give me the answer to my original request in that threatening letter he wrote.  So, should I return the item I moved?

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2005, 08:55:06 AM »
N-Jaded

I know exactly where you are coming from on this one.

I have done the same thing.  Don't feel badly about it.  We're allowed to be human. We can only take so much from these N monsters.  

I'm sure you'll be back to your proactive self in no time.  Nothing wrong with being reactive on occasion.

((N-Jaded))

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2005, 09:47:39 AM »
Hi N-Jaded,

OMG, I have to voice the same opinion as those who think it was kind of cool that you did what you did ... perhaps because I have done similar things and because what you did was harmless, completely harmless.  

I can relate to it because most of what I did in the past was kind of childish, but I knew it was harmless.   During the process of moving, I found a gift that the OW had given him, so I threw it in the trash.  Took another gift at one point and did the same thing.   Etc.  

I can so relate to taking the newspaper, too, because I know what a creature of habit my exN is and it bothered him no end if anything interfered with reading the newspaper (eventhough he also read e-news extensively every day, too).  I think it is hilarious that you took it!   (hope that's okay!)  

So don't take his wrath seriously at all.  I honestly think that you showed him you're not the pushover he may have thought you were.   And that's a good thing.

Have a nice day,
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2005, 10:10:48 AM »
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He did finally give me the answer to my original request in that threatening letter he wrote.  So, should I return the item I moved?


No. He wrote a threatening letter. You can't reinforce that behavior. Hiding things he originally hid is not a big deal. Yes it's childish but what does he expect? He provoked you. It shouldn't lead to threats. Don't do anything yet. The next move is about mutual agreements not to hide and not to threaten. If that doesn't happen, let the things remain in escrow for a while.

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2005, 11:34:36 AM »
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I'm not sure where his mind is at.

I think I know! :twisted: Same place his head is at.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 01:53:15 PM »
N-Jaded, I think once we are pushed far enough, we all act out.

I was going to put this on the 'releasing' thread but realized it really belongs here. Telling one on me. Big time.

Where I work, we seem to accumulate people with major personality disorders. Not everyone there, I hasten to add, but certainly many of 'em.

We used to have one flaming borderline who liked to wait until everyone else had gone home - I come in later, stay later than most - and then show up in my office and shriek and scream abuse at me, over stuff she'd imagined, entirely.

First time it happened I thought she was psychotic. Second time it happened I had described her to my t, who told me to read about BPD (and I'd checked around among other reasonably normal people to see who else had gotten this: surprise: most of them) so I sat back and crossed my arms and when she was through said, 'thanks for sharing' and went back to my work.

That wasn't enough to stop her, so the third time she started it, I looked up at her, curled my upper lip back from my teeth, and started growling. Then, I began to stand up, verrrry slowly, keeping my eyes on her the entire time, and growling more and more loudly. More like a dog growl than a cat growl.

That solved the problem. Not only did she disappear immediately, but she sidled along the wall whenever I saw her in the hallway. Didn't take long after that for her to leave. The workplace. To much surreptitious applause.

Of course, until she left, whenever I encountered her in the absence of witnesses, I did the lip-curling thing again, with a short snarl.

Gotta keep reminding them, you know.

Not entirely proud of it, but I suspect it is the only example of perfect communication with a majorly dysfunctional oik in my entire life.

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2005, 07:09:53 PM »
Thank-you all for points of view.  You have certainly lightened my heart.  The good news...no nasty letter waiting for me tonight.  Just a  piece of mail  that ironically was titled Marriage Matters that he ripped in half and wrote "Yeah...right"  on it.  Ya know why does he have this reaction now?  He hasn't put 2 cents into this marriage in over 2 yrs and he knows that and now that it's ending he acts mad.  I know..I need not question the whys anymore.  Thank-you all again.

P.S. New Day, yes now that you mention it the newspaper thing was funny..he is religious with the Super Sunday Sales Spectaculars!  They are the first things he goes through,  only after he neatly seperates them into their respective categories. :D

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2005, 07:31:06 PM »
Stormchild Guesting.
OMG...I don't think I could have ever done that!  Kudos to you.  Not knowing you I can only assume that your growl is worse than your bite?   :)
I was reading parts from a book today on BPD it was called "Stop walking on eggshells."  It said that there were new studies showing promising results with the use of antidepressants and mood stabalizers for ppl w/BPD.  I am thinking that the PD that agrees to this must be actively seeking help.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2005, 08:00:29 PM »
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Not entirely proud of it, but I suspect it is the only example of perfect communication with a majorly dysfunctional oik in my entire life.


oop - see other thread re: communicating. i agree! -i- would be proud of it!

they are growling at us. they just found silky words to do it with.

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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2005, 08:02:45 PM »
oops - unclear. what i meant was,
-i- would be proud of it!

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2005, 09:20:10 PM »
PromQueenCasualty did something way more impressive re a neighbor who apparently had some similar PD. I forget which thread she posted about it on, but it was impressive and then some.

This was a unique case. And I have to admit, I did try to relate to this person initially. But once she went BPD on me, that was a point of no return for her, and thus for me. It was very clear to me that she really enjoyed the screaming abusive carrying on.

It's so sad, though. So much wasted time, thought, feeling.