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hope2003:
Since this is a thread to me, let me speak up.

Having a voice is good.  Using it properly is essential.  Frankly, I don't listen to really negative communications.  I tune out the content of the message.  

This applies to everyone.  I don't care for phrases like "full of crap"  I don't find them useful.

You end up voiceless with language such as that.

Please let's stop negativity and name-calling.  We can voice differences ina respectful manner.  

I am not angry with Jaded or anyone else, but I think we all have work to do.

Acappella:
And this is is part of that work for me at least.

Guest:
I just painfully read your post Acappella.   I'm really not sure if you and Jaded are the same person, but for sure you have some kind of alliance with her, even if it is just one you have taken on personally for yourself.

It is just completely *FUTILE*  to try to reason with a couple of you.   By "reason" I certainly don't mean that you have to agree with others.   Just try meet them halfway, consider some things being said, instead of being so rigid and defensive.   That is something everyone should do, if they'd like to have a cohesive community.

I'd have been willing to speak more about this, even in private(as you suggested), if I thought if would go anywhere, but sadly, I don't.   I think it would just be an endless cycle of anger and defense, instead of a two way, respectful, mutual *listening* dialogue.      No thanks-- been there done that with xN, and don't plan to do it EVER again.

It's unfortunate that it is that way, but I guess I will have to choose the healthy thing and not waste my time and energy.   No more time and energy wasted for me here, either.   I'll let the select few of you stew in your own juices.   Minus me, and it will just be another member, another issue to rage over, that gets automatically inserted.    

I can certainly see where the use of a moderator comes in handy, and why Sandahl has closed the topic of what went on previously, on the other board.     This (negativity and over-anger about things) will never end here, because there are people that won't allow it to.      

It will play out endlessly, just like unmoderated newsgroups.   They have been arguing on there for *YEARS*, and vicsiously many times.    You go there at your own risk.   If that is the kind of community you wish to build, keep at it.

I'm happily out of here!!!   :o       Good luck all.   I do wish you peace, and healing.   Believe it or not, that is truly heartfelt, though I'm sure it will be degraded.    

Won't be around to read it though!

Acappella:

--- Quote ---even in private(as you suggested)
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excuse me.  i was not clear.  I was illustrating a point indirectly when I said perhaps guest should be a filter for what feelings are and are not posted here.

Anonymous:
Accapella,
Why do you speak so much about "feelings" instead of "facts"?
Admittedly, feelings are important but feelings are emotions and emotions as you know can go the way of the old rollercoaster. Not fun.
Not only are they not factual or reliable in an argument (which is what is going on here) , but they also change from person to person so you cant really argue about someones "feelings"... you cant say it's wrong for someone to "FEEL" that another is "full of crap" when that is their feeling concerning the situation....or is it a fact?! Is it a fact that Jaded was "full of crap" when she was trying to make something wrong out of Engels post? I for one "FEEL" that she was.

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