Author Topic: universal human factors.self-image/assertiveness/correctness  (Read 2118 times)

comic typo joe

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the point might be
most all
except maybe jesus and his 144000 perfected saints
who will rule during the millenium... :)

most all otherwise
have old habits based on corruption of our original pure nature
be it


to justify such corruption... evil minded
SO AS TO KEEP IN THE POWER OF SELF ASSERTION


to withhold what seems to be good
out of fear of how the evil minded might
use it against us
MAYBE ABOUT SELF IMAGE
NOT WANTING OUR SELF IMAGE EXPOSED
TO EVIL POWERS
WILLING TO SINCERELY TRY TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT
or if we vainly try and try
and it ends up bringing about worse problems...
often coz one rushes in before one
has properly disciplined one's soul thru mind and will
..of course one need take a long view
as to causing worse problems as
the immediate reaction to good
often can be evil forces cleverly trying to make
it look foolish.

the evil minded make a big deal often
of the power of the best defense is a powerful offense

perhaps those who withhold doing the apparent good
out of fear that others might attack
might be
trying to figure out the issue of how to assert good
in such a correct way so that one may not
experience the attacks of the worldly minded
..of course some might not recognize that
their spiritual mindedness is actually based
a lot in worldly mindedness...
... such as one of my parents
whose big self image thing was how
spiritually kind and understanding she was
and in such a way that lots bought into it
..esp after she had broke the spirits of those around her
not to question it
or to buy into it ..sigh
what to do for the prize son who never bought into it
....

such that it is not as easy to make one's case
about the family dynamics
..where the earlier hints or signs of abuse
go into a kind of collective amnesia
including the narcissist
and she is free to appear to behave
as the noblest most wonderful person
in such a way now
that it is more saleable
plus having pushed her husband into some
of his faults and guilts
and easier to make the source of the deep issues
him tho she might not directly say it now..
it was genetic
is a favorite
and she is doing her dangnest to find
whatever might be done about it ....
gasp how could u say it was her....
setting up tho
the nice way to hopefully
turn up the opposing point of views
weaknesses and frustrations
to make him look foolish
or gasp maybe it is drugs...
gasp mom i didnt inhale :)

Anonymous

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 03:43:48 PM »
Hi Cos?

So are you saying your religiously exploitive mother is evil and labelled you as genetically or otherwise disordered, because she couldn't possibly do anything wrong in her head, and that she verbally abused, belittled and reduced her husband, blaming him for all deep family issues?

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what to do for the prize son who never bought into it?


What do you need Cos?

(besides punctuation lessons --heehee :D  :D )

How do you feel now?

GFN

Portia

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2005, 12:15:12 PM »
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to withhold what seems to be good
out of fear of how the evil minded might
use it against us

or because we can’t be bothered? Engaging with evil can take up precious time, better spent elsewhere.

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MAYBE ABOUT SELF IMAGE
NOT WANTING OUR SELF IMAGE EXPOSED
TO EVIL POWERS

Or maybe we can’t be bothered. Or we don’t see ‘evil’ as ‘power’. Power? Interesting word. What is power? Isn't it what we choose it to be? What we ALLOW it to be?

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WILLING TO SINCERELY TRY TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT
or if we vainly try and try
and it ends up bringing about worse problems...
often coz one rushes in before one
has properly disciplined one's soul thru mind and will

Who knows when the soul is ready? Is there a guide? Is there a standard to reach? Who decides? Come on. :)

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..of course one need take a long view
as to causing worse problems as
the immediate reaction to good
often can be evil forces cleverly trying to make
it look foolish.

Evil forces – the D-evil? :twisted:  Black witchcraft? Or just ordinary everyday neuroses and disorders, with a touch of a real psychopath thrown in?

Who decides what is good and what is bad, sorry, evil?

Maybe - just maybe - it isn’t evil forces at work. Maybe - just maybe - it’s tough bad luck, it’s unfortunate. But it’s not the Devil at work. There is no reason. There is No Reason either.


Jacqueline Annette Williams was judged to be sane, but severely narcissistic. And sane. Apparently? She wanted what she wanted. Which happened to be someone else’s unborn baby. Very simple.

COSanswers2ndPOSTguest

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2005, 11:27:08 AM »
I B LEARNIN THE QUOTE FUNCTION IN THIS POST SYSTEM
HOPEFULLY HERE...
UH I THINK I QUOTED THE 2ND POST FROM GUEST BELOW AND
AM GONNA TRY TO INSERT IN CAPS SOME OF MY THOUGHTS
THIS BE THE POSTER OF THE THREAD THIS HERE ME ME :)
.. AN IDIOSYNCRATIC GENIUS LEGEND IN MY OWN MIND..
ACTUALLY A VERY SUPER INTELLIGENT BABOON
RAISED BY AN ALPHA FEMALE IN A BABOON TROOP ETC ETC
OR IS THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC HALLUCINATION OR
KINDA BOTH THE SAME AS BOTH ARE RELATED TO
THE CHINESE KIDNEY WATER TYPE... SCHIZOID
ACCORDING TO WHICHMACALLIT   OH REICH..
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Hi Cos?

So are you saying your religiously exploitive mother is evil and labelled you as genetically or otherwise disordered, because she couldn't possibly do anything wrong in her head, and that she verbally abused, belittled and reduced her husband, blaming him for all deep family issues?SINCE I CONSIDER MY MOTHER PROBABLY MORE NPD THAN PSYCHOPATHIC...
IT IS MORE OF A CASE OF HER EGO STATE WORKED MORE SUBCONSCIOUSLY INTUITIVELY THAN CONSCIOUS EVIL WHICH I THINK CAN INVITE THO EVIL SPIRITS AND MAYBE MISGUIDED SELF RIGHTIOUS SPIRITS SOME TOO........NOW A PSYCHOPATH I TAKE AS MAKING MORE CONSCIOUS CHOICES OF EVIL.... PROBABLY...AND MAYBE BEING AT TIMES MORE AWARE OF THE EVIL SPIRITS IT DRAWS TO ENABLE IT...

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what to do for the prize son who never bought into it?


What do you need Cos?

(besides punctuation lessons --heehee :D  :D )

How do you feel now?

GFN

JOEanswersINpartPORTIA

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2005, 11:33:38 AM »
PARTIAL ANSWER TO 3RD POST IN THIS THREAD
IN CAPS INSERTED IN THAT PART OF 3RD POST
..ONE FROM PORTIA


Quote from: Portia
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to withhold what seems to be good
out of fear of how the evil minded might
use it against us

or because we can’t be bothered? Engaging with evil can take up precious time, better spent elsewhere.
ACTUALLY THO THERE IS A TRUTH TO WITHHOLDING
SOMETHING FROM ONE WHO WOULD ABUSE IT AND IT WOULD
JUST ENABLE THEIR BAD BEHAVIOUR ... BUT GIVEN TO ANOTHER
WHO WOULD USE THAT GOOD IN A GOOD WAY ....
BUT UNDER SUCH CONSIDERATIONS I DO NOT CONSIDER
IT WITHHOLDING "GOOD"
U C? WHAT I MEAN..


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Anonymous

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 11:39:50 AM »
Hi again Cos:

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HER EGO STATE WORKED MORE SUBCONSCIOUSLY INTUITIVELY THAN CONSCIOUS EVIL


So how does this work/feel for you?  Do you then blame her less, for whatever she did that hurt you?

Does it still hurt/hurt less or more/or the same?

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I THINK I QUOTED THE 2ND POST FROM GUEST


Yep.  You did.  Good using the quote thingy Cos!!! :D

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ACTUALLY A VERY SUPER INTELLIGENT BABOON
RAISED BY AN ALPHA FEMALE IN A BABOON TROOP


Oh hairless-butted one!!   :D
Do you feel good about being super intelligent?

Do you think/behave brutish?

GFN

JOEanswersMOREofPORTIA

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 11:44:40 AM »
ANOTHER PART OF PORTIA'S POST ON ISSUES OF 1ST POST IN THREAD

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MAYBE ABOUT SELF IMAGE
NOT WANTING OUR SELF IMAGE EXPOSED
TO EVIL POWERS

Or maybe we can’t be bothered. Or we don’t see ‘evil’ as ‘power’. Power? Interesting word. What is power? Isn't it what we choose it to be? What we ALLOW it to be?

WELL IN A SENSE EVIL HAS NO REAL POWER OF ITSELF BUT
IS FORCED TO DEPEND ON THE FALSE POWER OF FALSE RIGHTS
IN COMPARISON TO OTHERS ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL FALL...
AND THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX LONG SALVATION PROCESS
FOR THE ADAMIC LINE OF HUMANS I THINK...
PLEASE NOTE I AM JUST A CONCERNED BABOON
WORRIED ABOUT WHAT U HUMANS MIGHT BE DOING TO EARTH :)
BUT IN READING THE BIBLE AND THE PLAN OF SALVATION
FOR HUMANS I WOULD THINK A DEEP READING REVEALS
THAT ALL HUMANS
AS ROMANS SAYS...
God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
but what requires a deeper reading of the bible i think
that this requires reincarnation

and also that we be willing to suffer for others sake
but  not to have that lessened by
getting caught up in a false matyr complex
but still being called to be a matyr
can be a holy thing
where one is beaten and crucified even