Author Topic: Help-cycle repeating itself!  (Read 3494 times)

Marta

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Re: Help-cycle repeating itself!
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2005, 12:32:07 PM »
FOOOOOOL. FOOOOOOL. FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. BIG STUPID FOOOOOOOOL. THAT'S ME.

Latest update from N mom. I responded to mom's holiday wishes by saying same to you too. She responded by saying she "can't find her investment file" and indirectly accuses me of taking it. She, the nice one, is ready to begin nominating me for the assets, "as I had requested and she had agreed". only she can't do it as I have stolen the investment file Twisted reasoning and more lies. Then she takes the cake. Before I can revoke the power of attorney, she basically accuses me of stealing her investment portfolio. B***H.

How could I have fallen for this? How stupid I can still get. Sorry  to Vunil and all those others like me who are momentarily fooled into feeling love from psychopaths, gotta disagree with you big time. I agree with the rest, the "loving" email was a hook.

PS: IN case I didn't make it clear. She is LYING. The only things I took from home were my dad's pictures, and the only thing I want from her is to behave in a decent manner, which she is incapable of. I would not even spit on her stinking money. The only wrong that I did was that I was only stooooopid enough to respond to her email with "best wishes" by reciprocating them and saying wish you happy holidays too. What a gutter existence she leads.

 
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Marta

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Re: Help-cycle repeating itself!
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2005, 02:48:40 PM »
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If you see a cycle starting and know that somehow at some point it turns bad, maybe it would help to document that.  So that even if this time you don't crack it, next time you will.

Plucky, excellent suggestion. I hope there will be no next time. I've had enuf.

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If you tell yourself that if you get too close.......you will be sick too (not as sick as her......but unhealthy, unhappy, etc..not healing), maybe this idea would help you to keep a stronger boundary around you.......to keep you safe from her illness??


Sela, yes, that's it. I thought that I could keep my distance by replying to an innocuous happy holidays email, but I guess that is not safe either.

Write, in my case my sister is stinking rich, and I am not poor, but she still keeps scapegoating me for everything that goes wrong in our family. May be the dynamics between you and your sister is rooted not in where you are at right now or normal sibling rivalry, but due to poison injected by the Ns in your life. 

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I've decided it is all part of her particular martyrdom and nothing to do with me personally. But talk about 'family systems theories...'
That sounds right on.

David, ditto with my Nmom and sis when they "helped" me. Heaven help those who take their help.

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I have learned that it is futile trying to calculate the quantum and scope of the N's' love' (if indeed there is such a thing) . The only measurement that I value is the distance between them and me.

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Re: Help-cycle repeating itself!
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2005, 12:12:03 AM »
I'm sorry it's more disappointment for you, but in a way- maybe it will help you make a break and from now on view any communication with at first suspicion and finally detachment.

Of course you didn't steal her files. WE KNOW THAT!

If so would she really be writing nice messages one minute, nasty the next.

If she really was a together person and she thought her daughter was stealing from her she'd be on the phone in an honest way immediately trying to figure what the hell is going on.

But she knows your weaknesses- one of which I'm guessing is you hate to be put in these positions of conflict.
Maybe sometimes you've even given in to her and gone down the path of trying to reason with her etc.
In fact I'm guessing if you posed the honest question to her: are you accusing me of theft? she would prevaricate and not want to say so directly.

She is, as you have reported before, behaving manipulatively, trying to get your emotions hooked in so you can't think straight and you take on her view of the world. ie do what she wants or thinks she needs.

And in some ways Vunil is right- she doesn't get it; she thinks she's being a loving mother to a somehow wayward daughter, in her twisted world.

My father would justify his behaviour by waiting until the next bipolar cycle came around and then telling everyone- in hushed tones- I had 'a bit of depression'.
He was so convincing I fell for it loads of times, even though I have a problem with mania more than depression!

The week my son was born there was a major family crisis when my  brother almost died- my father told me I should leave my newborn and be at the hospital with him; I was very bonded to that child, and refused: later he told me I'd had post-natal depression and been very unreasonable!

What you need is a family time out.

Where you step down from whatever roles you play in your family for a while and adopt a detachment to them.

Plan your own holidays, respond to their notes with a brief postcard, use your answer machine.
Tell them you're busy working...whatever you want. Or nothing at all if you don't want.

They won't like it, but you have to know- it's your life. We don't HAVE to be there for our family at all times. Normal families know this, and allow that space.

Toxic families never allow for people's individual needs.

If you have a toxic family the first thing is to learn to take care of yourself, independent of what they say or how much they criticise.

Trust me- I've almost completely done this ( it still hurts sometimes, when they deliberately leave me out,but I'm getting to realise it's worth it)

They're not nearly so fearsome once you stop answering letters, calls or feeling responsible to their time-frame.

And remember- I have not lost touch with any of my family, I just finally learned that they need me more than I need them, and though I will never be abusive or cruel, from now on I do my life my way, if they want a part of that, wonderful, if not, they can expect a void of silence because I have better things to do with my middle-age than pander to people who take far more than they give.

Keep going,
You're on the brink of a discovery- FREEDOM!

(((((((((((((((((((((((MORE HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


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Re: Help-cycle repeating itself!
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2005, 10:21:55 AM »
Marta, I am so sorry about your mother-- she is just irretrievably screwed up.  I have had the same feelings of mourning that you have for the parenting I wish I had gotten.  It is all the more painful to get glimpses of it and have them snatched away when the N sickness comes back in.  And it always does, doesn't it?  It's relentless.

But I will say my parents have never accused me of stealing.  I'm not sure how you get past that-- it's just too crazy.