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gratitude28

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Attack System
« on: June 21, 2006, 09:33:03 PM »
I Found this explanation on a website (I will put the link below as it is full of great descriptions and info) and wanted to throw it out there for you all. I hadn't thought of my mother's attacks in this way before, but it is true, she looks for an opening to start a rage and then somehow makes it appear to be my doing.  Anyone else relate???

Professionals often say that narcissists overreact to the merest unintended slights and that they fly into a rage for the slightest reason. But this view seems anthropomorphic to me. I suspect it comes from forgetting that the narcissist on your couch is a pathological liar divorced from reality and living a personal narrative that is fiction. In my experience, narcissists usually invent the other party's "offense" to justify their attack. Often, the narcissist attacks for an anti-reason. By that I mean, he or she is "provoked" to attack the other party by behavior that would provoke a normal person to embrace the other party.

 

I would hate to admit how long it took me to discover that. Indeed, try to provoke a narcissist. I bet you can't. And, if you have a raging narcissist, rage right back in his face. Snap — just like that the rage is off and he is downright meek. In one split-second. I am convinced that the only "offense" a narcissist is reacting to is vulnerability. Just as a wolf reacts to the sight of a lamb.

It's always a surprise attack. The narcissist catches you off-guard with such an off-the-wall and shocking reaction to something that you are disarmed and cannot really believe what's happening. These shock tactics perplex you. Before you know what's going on, he has run you over. He's an expert at doing this, because he's being doing it to his playmates since he was four.

Whether lashing out in a small way at a neighbor, customer-service representative, or colleague or lashing out in a big way at a family member, narcissists give the impression that they had been laying in the weeds to strike unexpectedly. And when they strike, they let fly a remark or act so far beyond the bounds of decency that it stuns the victim, who wonders where the hell that came from. It's as though, behind their angel-face, they have an attack dog at the end of his leash — one that, without warning, they loose at the unsuspecting.

Proof that the leviathan lies just beneath the surface can be seen in the fact that, if the narcissist is fatigued, half-wakened from sleep, or has his inhibitions lowered by alcohol, one might as well try to get along with Eddy Scissorhands. There is nothing you can say or do at such times that he won't attack you for as some sort of offense or intolerable imposition. The more you try to appease him, the madder he gets. He is not bound by reason or the standards of common decency. So, he doesn't care how bizarre, irrational, and outrageous his behavior and assertions are. In short, acting crazy isn't beneath him as it is beneath you and I: To the contrary, acting crazy is his secret weapon.

http://www.operationdoubles.com/narc/index.htm

Like I said, this site is just great. It describes everything in layman's terms.
Love, Beth
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Re: Attack System
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 10:00:03 PM »
Wow, beth. This is describing verbal and emotional abusiveness and it's the best summing up of the whole sad mess that I have ever seen!

Thanks for the terrific post and the link!
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Re: Attack System
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 10:13:14 PM »
yeah, I found the operations double site the most helpful, too.  I have a rager N Mom.  I think it's how I learned to attack back and it's something I've had to relearn not to do as people aren't all out to get me.   :shock:

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Re: Attack System
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 10:42:29 PM »
I learned to be very stoic around my mother. I refused to engage and became almost emotionally sterile. I wonder now if that is why she prefaces every bit of news to me with something along the lines of, "Well, I know you probably won't want to hear this..." or "I have some bad news... I am not sure if you remember...." The way she tells me everything is as if I were some heartless bitch. I am not like that, but when I am around her and she starts that way, I do get very cold and hard.
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Re: Attack System
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2006, 11:12:02 PM »
Oh my. Reading "What Goes on behind closed doors" at that site. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen this sort of behavior with my own eyes. Too awful. Thank you for the link, Beth... I hope to be able to pass it on to others who might benefit.

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Re: Attack System
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2006, 04:22:14 AM »
Hi All , N's really dislike themselves. Thats is why they love to be feared and hated and hate to be loved .I am speaking now of  full blown N's.Regarding my Sis that took off 15 years ago to get away from dad
hating him ,  saying she will never forgive him or see him , He sez he respects that.I say I love him forgive him and it is plain he does not respect that.He does not like the fact I really love and really forgive him it ticks him off.He likes my big Sis.Which is cool so do I.Big Sis N DAD sez "as least she sticks to her guns".I do not like guns.Its like he can not figure me out .Thats OK.My love and forgiveness unhooks me and my soul forever from his soul forever its done lesson learned done.Unhooked free I am not his object.But that is not reason for my love and forgiveness they are in fact true.
Attack System still I do not think I will ever be in a room alone with him thats risky......................
MoonLight  8)
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Re: Attack System
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2006, 09:45:58 AM »
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I learned to be very stoic around my mother. I refused to engage and became almost emotionally sterile. I wonder now if that is why she prefaces every bit of news to me with something along the lines of, "Well, I know you probably won't want to hear this..." or "I have some bad news... I am not sure if you remember...."


boy does this resonate with me beth.  like I said, we must have the same mother!   8)

Did you find yourself complaining to friends when you were in say, highschool, about all the stupid things your mother did, expecting them to relate?  And then when they'd say: my mother doesn't do that, and kind of look at you like they felt sorry for you, how did it feel?  I pretty much felt like an alien.  I had to learn the hard way that talking about Mom would be seen as foreign and weird, which made me feel bad - so I stopped talking about it, which kept it all bottled up inside, and made me ready to explode at times.

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Re: Attack System
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 08:17:59 PM »
((((((((((((((((((((((moon)))))))))))))))))))))))
You are so wonderful and accepting. I know what you mean about not being understood.

pbean,
Yes, I thought that everyone felt like me (hated life, wanted to run away). In fact, my parents thought that was "normal" - that all kids hate their parents and wish they were dead. They thought it was a "phase." Then I realized (and very recently) that other people LOVE thier parents and families... even when they are going through rough ages/phases. My husband can't remember a time when he didn't love his parents or they him. And he did not have an idyllic childhoos - dad's an alcoholic and such. When I met his mom, I thought she was an anomaly. She could SEE that her children made bad choices, but she didn't hate them. I couldn't understand that at first. Now I realize how wonderful she is and how good people do let others live their own lives and suffer their own consequences. She loved me whether I was fat or thin, drinking or not drinking, working or not working, and so on. I just couldn't believe it. In fact, his whole family loves me that way.
Another bad thing I did for the longest time was judging people... often for things I did myself. I judged "by my intentions."
Thanks pbean for sharing with me... I was such an outcast at school and it was so hard.
Love, Beth
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