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thank you
« on: June 24, 2006, 07:48:24 PM »
Hello everybody,

First, I want to offer my sincere thanks and gratitude for the many expressions of support and sympathy you have offered.  It has helped.

Second, I want to share something that my brother said in his eulogy of my mother:

I don't know whether my mother did the right thing any more often than anybody else.  But she always knew, and she always taught us, that there was a right and a wrong, an honest and a dishonest, a good and a bad.  And she believed fiercely that what was right, and true, and good always trumped what was expedient or popular or convenient.  She was passionate about her vocation as our mother.

I can't think of better words to remember her by, and I wanted to share them because they capture something essential about her.

Thank you again.

daylily

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Re: thank you
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2006, 07:52:26 PM »
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Re: thank you
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2006, 08:12:22 PM »
Hi Daylilly

I haven't checked in much for a few days, hope you are ok; thinking about you.

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Re: thank you
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2006, 08:44:45 PM »
Dear (((Daylily)))

I've been wondering how you are.
Thank you for sharing your brother's words about you mother.
I like knowing that about her.

I lost my father almost two years ago.
It's a long journey that changes a person.
Especially when you have been there taking care of them
and have seen them through to the end.
It can be a lot to take in, so I guess that is why it is such a long journey.

Love, PP
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Re: thank you
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2006, 11:15:14 PM »
(((((((((((Daylily)))))))))))))

and

(((((((((((posters)))))))))))

Just a big YES. To all of it.

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 08:06:49 PM »
Daylily,
Thank you for sharing your mom's eulogy. Your brother was very eloquent and brought your mom to life with his words.
Are you feeling ok? I don't know what it is to grieve a parent, but it must be so difficult to know what you are feeling. There must be a huge range of emotions.
Please take care of yourself and know I am thinking of you.
Beth
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 08:21:45 AM »
Dear Daylily,

Thank you for your thoughtfulness in sharing your brother's eulogy...imho, he sounds wise and strong, like his mother and sister.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope you're taking much comfort from one another.

All my best,
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Re: thank you
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 08:36:26 AM »
((((((((((((Daylily))))))))))

Thank you so much for sharing this.

Take care and best wishes to you and your family.

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Re: thank you
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2006, 11:50:59 PM »
Very hard first day back at work.  The people I work with and for did not send a card or acknowledge what happened in any way.  I had to decline an invitation that meant a great deal to me--an opportunity to do something in the literary community--because it conflicts with a work event.  No one asked me whether I had any conflicts on those days, they just scheduled the event and then told me I absolutely had to be there.  I've been putting off declining the invitation, but I couldn't stall any longer.

My husband, who can watch World Cup soccer for hours with rapt attention, paces and yawns when I try to talk to him about any of this.  Which makes me feel worse.

I'm far too sane and responsible to lose control, but oh, I wish I could.  I wish I could just say that I don't care about the stupid management retreat, I've spent nine months totally absorbed in my mother's illness, and now she's dead, and I think my husband should give at least as much attention to me as to the soccer game.  I spent several hours today pondering why I didn't just put my mother in the car and bring her to stay with me the weekend before she became ill.  Why didn't I do something to stop this?  Was I too selfish?  Too blind?  I know she was unnaturally tired.  Why didn't I do something to help her?

Sorry, folks, I know this is just whining.  Please excuse it.  Just need to put it somewhere.  Things are a little disjointed right now; I haven't really slept in four or five days.

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Re: thank you
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 12:06:12 AM »
I'm far too sane and responsible to lose control,

maybe that's what's needed! Go stand out in your yard and scream- your H might take his eyes of the game for a minute or two...

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You're carrying everyone, at a time you need them to cut you some slack and let you mourn and do the 101 practical things which got dumped on you.

I spent several hours today pondering why I didn't just put my mother in the car and bring her to stay with me the weekend before she became ill.  Why didn't I do something to stop this?  Was I too selfish?  Too blind?  I know she was unnaturally tired.  Why didn't I do something to help her?

We all ask this when someone dies: what if I'd...

My Grandma died whilst I was out at a Graduation dinner for my husband. Her friend called and she said 'I'm tired, I'm going to bed' but she never got there.
I had seen her that morning and knew she wasn't long for this world, but I had obligations to meet, and she DEFINITELY would have been mad at me taking her to a British hospital ( she'd likely spend all night on a trolley in a side-ward anyway ) or bringing a stranger in when she wasn't well.

So I left her to die in a draughty hallway crumpled up at the bottom of the steep stairs which probably kept her fit into her 90s but defeated her that last night.

I beat myself up a long time over that; know I know- it was ok.

Give yourself time.
You have to take time to grieve and recover, and if there are lessons about the relationships in your life and how supportive they are not when you need them, time to absorb them too.


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Re: thank you
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2006, 12:34:00 AM »
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I vote for bursting into tears when you feel sad, even at work:
"My mother has died and I will be fine, but right now I am truly grieving and I would like it if you  acknowleged my loss." SCREW people's expectations that we all be robots at work. (They'll survive.)

(Umm...same line could be okay with hubby too???)

Don't apologize for a moment for feeling irrational. Grief isn't about reason.
It's just pure humanness.

(I remember reading a study once that compared cultures: in one culture, where grieving people howled and tore their hair and beat their breasts and rent their clothes and carried on, and another where everybody did the stiff-upper-lip "I'm just fine" stoic thing...five years later, the people who "fell apart" were much healthier, physically and mentally, by every measure.)

So do whatever feels truthful and natural to you, Daylily.
You did BEYOND FINE by your mother. Her passing was a gift to her and death just comes on its own terms, much as we hate it. And what a caring and responsible daughter you have been. She was very lucky to have you.

love,
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 12:50:15 AM »
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Let yourself grieve. Let the 'what if' questions come... they will... but realize they are just part of the grieving process. Do you remember you have been writing for weeks about your mom? I can't imagine there was much more of yourself to give.

Men don't deal well with any sort of emotion I've noticed. But he does need to be made aware that he is being supremely selfish when YOU REALLY NEED HIM. And I think you need to tell him straight up... it's the only way men listen. They know no subtleties.

Please take care of yourself and give yourself a break for a bit. Do something little for yourself each day even if it's the last thing you want to do.

Love, Beth
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Re: thank you
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2006, 08:43:25 AM »
Dear (((Daylily)))

I'm with WRITE, Hops and Beth on this one.  They are right in every way.

It is true that you may second guess your decisions which were made at the most difficult of times.  And it may be okay to think about the regrets if you need to, but it's not okay to judge yourself for them when you only did the best you knew how at the time.  Letting yourself think about it for awhile may be the surest way to let it go.  Please don't judge yourself, though.  You did fine.  If all of us here know how well you loved your mother and wanted only the best for her, then she certainly knew that too.

After my father died and I went back to work (fortunately to a group of people who have all suffered in this way and have a good understanding of what is really important when it comes to family), I did say to someone that I worried I hadn't done enough for my father or spent enough time with him at the end.  I worried about it because I knew I had made sure to meet my obligations at work, sometimes at my father's own urging.  He always said, "Don't jeopardize your job."  So, I was never late and never slacked off and didn't take extra time off.  The reason was I thought he was going to live longer.  I was pacing myself.  I thought he would make it till Christmas and I knew I would have a nervous breakdown if I went all out for my father for that length of time.  Well, as it turned out he only made it until the end of October.  I knew I could have gone all out for a month.  And then rested or got therapy afterwards.  I told someone that I could have done more for a month.  And he said, "Don't beat yourself about that.  Don't do that to yourself."  And he was right.  It was good to be heard.  But he was right.  I had no way of knowing ahead of time how long it would take.  It was a good decision based on the knowledge I had at the time.

You did give your all for as long as you could and for as long as you had to.  You did a great job for your mother, Daylily.

Those people you work with are not the right kind of the people and probably never will be.  I hope that someday you can get a better situation for yourself in employment.

It is right that your husband be supportive of you.  It is true that he might not be able to because he doesn't know how or is not good with feelings.  So, yes, screaming and crying might be in order here.  He might learn something as a result.

It's a long process, Daylily.  Sometimes all you can accomplish is just waking up each day.  It won't always be like that.  But sometimes that's the best you can do.

Love, Pennyplant
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Re: thank you
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2006, 08:39:19 PM »
Daylily,
I had one more thought about your mom's passing...you had fortune to know that she was leaving. You two had time to say goodbye. Sometimes a person goes so suddenly that you never even get to say goodbye. I am sure she was so grateful to spend her last time here with you and her loved ones.
Love, Beth
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2006, 08:56:59 PM »
If all of us here know how well you loved your mother and wanted only the best for her, then she certainly knew that too.

exactly.

When my mother died I went out into the woods around our house and spoke my feelings to the trees and chipmunks and the flowing creek; I cried more for that which had been imperfect than anything, then it came to me from scripture:

Thy Faith Hath Made Thee Whole

She did have faith, and her path was her path.
It was humbling suddenly to realise: my path too is my path,
and there was so much I did not, do not, probably cannot understand, but my mother was who she was, she loved her second family more than us, so she made some progress, and there were lessons she taught me which stay with me even now.

Somewhere from her I learned my love of John's Gospel above the others! And I never forget her anger when we mocked local Jewish refugees in ignorance alongside the other children.