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mergen

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Help! I think my husband's family are narcissists
« on: February 01, 2004, 10:13:36 AM »
I just found this message board.  I hope someone can help me sort out a difficult situation...

I have been married for three years.  I knew something was wrong but always thought he just needed to grow up, or find a more satisfying job, or move to a new place, etc.  He is so charming and "fun" that people thought I was the luckiest girl they knew.  My in-laws have always been distant - I thought, I could have it worse, have an instrusive mother in law.  Family holidays with them consist of getting drunk and listening to my husband and his two brothers compete with their father in very loud voices.

Last September, my father in law had a heart attack and had quad-bypass.  That night, my mother in law and the boys sat on the patio drinking.  My sister in law and I were shocked.  The next day my mother in law cornered me, saying her boys' reaction was completely appropriate and that I shouldn't be upset.  My father in law spent two weeks unconcious, instead of the one day as planned, because his body had to go through alcohol and nicotine withdrawal.  He's better but we are not.  During the month or so of trips during the recovery, my mother in law waited on the boys hand and foot, just as they were growing up.  They don't respect her at all, just take it as their due.

I think my mother in law picked that time to encourage her son to leave me.  (She says critical and gossipy about my sister in law that make me think she is jealous of us. ) He went to a lawyer shortly after.  A few weeks later his younger brother broke up with his live-in girlfriend of 7 years.  The girlfriend and I used to joke that the boys are emotional twins - that's not so funny anymore, knowing they might have a serious problem.  Since September, my husband has not touched me, except for a peck at New Years' when his friends were watching.  We own a house, so we can't split up simply, but we are just living here not being married.  Niether of us is cheating or being particulary argumentative to the other.  We're just stuck.  So I have to bring the situation to a head because I can't live like this anymore.  Either we learn how to be happily married, or we stop being married.

That's a little background - sorry if this is too long.  My problem right now is, I need to get out of this for me.  But now that I'm learning about narcissism and also afraid my husband is depressed, I don't want to leave him when I should be helping him.  I want to be a good wife, I want a happy relationship with him if he is capable.  But he doesn't want help because he strongly believes nothing is wrong with him and that if I was a better person, our relationship would have worked.  How can I convince him to take a true look at himself?

These are some of the things I've said/felt about him over the years that make me think he's either a narcissist or the product of one:

You have no feelings, no conscience, no empathy for others
You have no close friendships, only drinking buddies
Your mom wanted to be your friend, not your parent
You take a lot more from this relationship than you give
It's got to be about you or you aren't interested
You don't have relationship skills

I feel like he can't love or respect me, even if he wanted to.  He told me recently that his parents never fought while he was growing up, that he had a "perfect" childhood.  When I said his mother never stands up for herself, his dad just tells her how it's going to be and she says okay, he told me his mother never HAD to stand up for herself (as if they had a perfect marraige).  I think with the alcoholism and maybe narcissism, his mother is an enabler.

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Help! I think my husband's family are narcissists
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2004, 06:14:23 PM »
Every time I hear a story like this, my whole being goes 'just get out now while you've got the chance - cos it gets harder to get out with every passing year'.

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But now that I'm learning about narcissism and also afraid my husband is depressed, I don't want to leave him when I should be helping him


I think you've got that the wrong way round - when you learn about narcissism you know you should get out fast, NOT stop and help - he's not 'helpable' and doesn't want to be helped and there's NO literature that suggests you should stop in the relationship to support him.

Being a 'good wife' to a narcissist means giving up your life, your soul, your beliefs, your integrity and becoming his image of the perfect compansion (which is forever changing as you are required to be permanently in the wrong - so know your place, be infinitely adaptable and don't complain too much!)

Follow your good sense, not your sentimentality!!

Good luck
R
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thoughts, it is sometimes necessary to take the enemy into account" Sir Winston Churchill

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Help! I think my husband's family are narcissists
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2004, 06:56:30 PM »
How sad!
I saw those qualities in my x-husband and stuck it out for 18 long years, Please get out now!  Make a new life for yourself.

There is NOTHING wrong with you!  And I believe you cannot make him see himself the way you do. I never had any luck with that.

My x said the same exact thing about his parents not fighting in front of them when they were kids, I asked his Mother about it one time and her response was, I do as I'm told!  GEEEEEZZZZZ!

Please for your sanity, get out now.

Tex
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Help! I think my husband's family are narcissists
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2004, 07:11:49 PM »
Good for you Mergen that you have realised that something is seriously wrong and prepared to face it. You will never be a good enough wife for your husband. I fell into the trap of feeling sorry for my exN, who was raised by a cold, distant mother and a very controlling father. I didn't know there was a name for it back then. I tried and tried to help him to come to terms with reality (to 'grow up') but he simply was unable to let go of that 'perfect family' notion. He idolised his Mum and he would get upset if she was portrayed as anything less than the best mother on earth. He remained that hurt child and I think somehow he even confused me with his mother. It was like he wanted me to supply all the mothering that he'd missed out on and also be a wife. Weird stuff happened, he found it hard to separate wife/mother. (Love/hate?) I hung onto the idea that we would be OK one day, but it only got worse.

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2004, 12:11:18 PM »
Hi Mergen,

Ick.  Sounds like mommy doesn't want to let her boys go and can't make room for their wives.  Sounds like a Peter Pan cult.  Only Wendys allowed to nurse them along.  It also sounds like your husband is great "boyfriend material" (lots of fun) but a bit short on the Husband potential (responsibility).  

Some women are okay in the mothering role because that's a big part of their persona.  Some feel powerful, not servile, in this role.  But lots of women want to be wife to their husbands and wait for their own children to mother.  Sounds like you are the latter.  

Does your husband value your relationship?  Enough to be motivated to look at the issues that affect your partnership?  Just want to give food for thought.  Good luck to you as you sort this out.  S,

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Thank you!
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2004, 03:09:21 PM »
Thank you so much for your replies!  Things are moving very fast for me (towards separation, I think).  The more I've learned about narcissism in the past week, the more I believe my husband's family has this disorder.  It's going to be very hard to get through a divorce, but at least I can leave with less blame on myself.

He is great boyfriend material...knocked me off my feet.  It makes me sad to think the way he is isn't his fault - his parents had a lot to do with it.  But I recognize that there is little hope of change.  My heart goes out to you who spent years with that kind of person -- it's like a constant rejection.

I may not be able to contribute much to this board, but I am very appreciative of those who spent the time to reply to my message.

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Help! I think my husband's family are narcissists
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2004, 06:35:55 PM »
Mergen, this is a nightmare. Get out while you still can, and don't feel guilty AT ALL. This man is not husband material, as others have said.

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