End Your Narcissism

[Magnolia]

Workshop for Narcissists!  Oh sure, I can see my father taking this!

http://www.endyournarcissism.com/

[Plucky]

This is hilarious.  Note the large bright "send to a friend" button at bottom.
Plucky

[Certain Hope]

Yeah huh... and in only one weekend       

[penelope]

hmmm.  Funny (maybe not?) thing is that the only people who will truly sign up for this are NOT NPD, by definition.  So I'm worried those signing up will be stripped of their healthy Narcissism.

This is the narcissism that is actually good as it gets us to work everyday and keeps us striving for goals that bring personal fulfillment and put food on the table - the N that eventually allows us to retire securely and not be a burden on society.


Funny in a warped way though, I agree.  But sad that it's so one-sided, ie, it conveys the "All N is evil," message..

pb

[mum]

so could we put our N's address into the email blank? Hmmmm, I wonder what would be done with that!!!
The whole thing is just bizarre...uh huh, the N's are lining up around the block for this.....

[Hopalong]

Boy, this Ken Wilber person is bizarre. I haven't been able to understand what I'm reading....the "green meme"? And I'm not sure if he's an N, a guru, a ... what?

(If anybody has a little summary, I'd be grateful. It's dense stuff!)

Hops

[mudpuppy]

(If anybody has a little summary, I'd be grateful. It's dense stuff!)

I'm a pretentious jerk, buy my book.

Little enough?

mud

[Stormchild]

Wikipedia entry for Ken Wilber

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber

'meme' is contemporary media shorthand for 'idea' or 'talking point'. Green is - green. Like solar power, hybrid cars, recycling. The 'green meme' is another term for 'green ideology' or 'green values'.

[Gotta change the words every now and then so people will think these things are new. Don't blame Wilber for that, he's using the words that are out there.]

[mudpuppy]

Hi Stormy,

I think 'meme' was coined by the lovely Richard Dawkins.

And I'm only blaming Wilbur for his turgid prose and those stupid glasses. Otherwise he may be a champ.

mud

[WRITE]

I'd probably buy a book called 'End your narcissism' if only to recommend or loan it out occasionally 

[Stormchild]

Hi Stormy,

I think 'meme' was coined by the lovely Richard Dawkins.

And I'm only blaming Wilbur for his turgid prose and those stupid glasses. Otherwise he may be a champ.

mud

Oh, the Selfish Gene guy. So it's the mental equivalent of a gene, then. Makes sense; I've only run into it among media types.

In re the glasses, if you think his are stoopid looking, you ought to check out the Dalai Lama's. Or mine, for that matter. I got beaten up quite a bit as a child for nothing worse than wearing stupid glasses, mud. Could we consider retracting that remark?

[Magnolia]

OH, he looks like a big ole N, for sure!

[mudpuppy]

Hey Stormy,

I have no problem with any glasses an old geezer like the Dalai Lama or little kids wear.

I was commenting on the current trend amongst 18-65 year olds to buy and wear glasses that purposely look like something a crabby old lady would have worn in a 1950's sitcom.
His glasses, coupled with the other current trend of shaving a perfectly good head like a billiard ball and his prose gives me a little potential insight into his noggin.

I can assure you that had I been on the same schoolyard as you I would have been defending you not persecuting you, no matter how stupid your glasses were.

mud

[Portia]

Off topic for a moment

Mud

I'm a pretentious jerk, buy my book.
  It applies to so many, too often and what’s more…..people like to buy into the pretension!

I think 'meme' was coined by the lovely Richard Dawkins.

Coincidence: I was trying to read RD last night about memes and thinking to myself…..I feel confused, I feel reactionary against this meme thing…it’s making something of nothing, or seeing patterns and calling them a name when in fact…..he’s conning himself? I had a look at something from 1995:

He described ideas as competing, self-replicating entities he called memes. Dawkins's most recent book, River Out of Eden, extends his life's work into a unified evolutionary theory arguing that all life, at its core, is a process of digital-information transfer.
These ideas are intriguing, even a little outrageous, but - most importantly - they have proven astonishingly influential. When a Dawkins meme smacks into your neurons, your neurons obediently repattern themselves around it. You might resist their explicit message, but they are difficult to ignore and impossible to dismiss. They're quite fit - in the Darwinian sense.

  impossible to dismiss ???? nah, I’m not interested ! Funny how people reach a certain level of success – Dawkins, M Scott Peck, John Lennon etc – and then they get up themselves. Success bad for some egos; adulation bad for some leaders. But don't some folks love to adore Emperors? Bah.

[Hopalong]

Boy I feel dense.
I'm glad we have a philosopher in the house.

Hops