Lost My Job and Doubting Myself

[Bones]

!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE SKIP THIS POST IF SQUEAMISH!!!!!!!!

Ask them to put a local on you before they start scalilng you, Bones. They can dab on a gel and let it set for a bit.

It's removal of calculus [tartar] from tooth surfaces and especially from the tooth-gum interface. They use sharp probes, go in between the tooth and gum, you will bleed. Stay off the vitamin E, aspirin and other NSAIDs, garlic, ginkgo starting essentially immediately. You want to do that for the root canal anyway.

I had quad scaling done now and then for years. A couple of years ago, after doing some serious reading, I bought some McCormick's Meat tenderizer, the unflavored kind, and started brushing my gums with it, at the gum line, before bed each night until they tingled. I no longer need scaling, because this stuff kills the bacteria that cause calculus to form, and it promotes soft tissue healing as well. [I use regular toothpaste too, still, this is extra. It's basically using an enzyme to scale your gums yourself. If you decide to try this, buy McCormick's, because it's made using bromelain, and that's the enzyme you want. Adolph's uses papain. It's a protease too, but it doesn't have the antibiotic activity of bromelain.]

You should have seen the look on my dentist's face when I came back six months later and he checked my gums. He was flabbergasted... I think this would help just about anyone as long as they aren't on a sodium restricted regimen.

Thanks, Stormchild.

I'll check out the meat tenderizer and see what I can find on the supermarket shelf.

Bones

[Certain Hope]

Ok, Bones... date noted. You are in my thoughts and prayers, as always... and especially now.

And wow, Stormy! ... McCormick's is on my shopping list now! My husband has the most gorgeous, sparkly white teeth... and peridontal disease. He's had this scaling done and is thrilled to hear of a way to avoid that routine again. Thanks from us 

Love,
Hope

[Hopalong]

Stormy?

Know anything for slipped disk pain from sitting in chairs all day even though you stand up and stretch every hour and take twice daily walk breaks? 

Hops

[Bones]

Stormy?

Know anything for slipped disk pain from sitting in chairs all day even though you stand up and stretch every hour and take twice daily walk breaks? 

Hops

Hi, Hops.

Where is the slipped disk located?  That could make a difference in the suggestions you are searching for.

Bones

[mudpuppy]

It's removal of calculus [tartar] from tooth surfaces and especially from the tooth-gum interface. They use sharp probes, go in between the tooth and gum, you will bleed.

My wife loved doing that when she was a hygeinist. Strange but true.

Know anything for slipped disk pain from sitting in chairs all day even though you stand up and stretch every hour and take twice daily walk breaks?

I find laying on a hard surface with my feet elevated helps or, strangely enough, getting down on my knees and back up a few times.
The other thing I use at home is an inversion table. This is for lumbar disks. As I recall Hops that's where your problems are.

mud

[Stormchild]

Hops - I'll defer to Bones on this one, with a screen name like that I'd be willing to bet she knows!

Hope, Bones - re the meat tenderizer: pour a dime-sized amount into your palm, and wet the toothbrush, then use the wet brush to pick up the powder (mound it up onto the side of the brush). You will need to do this twice. First round basically removes the biofilm from your teeth - second round gets into the gumline. You really do have to brush at the gumline and you must get the brush around behind your back teeth, and on both sides of the jaw.

You will need to spit more often than usual, bromelain is a protease. On the second round of brushing, you should feel a distinct tingle, localized at the gumline. Once you have been scaled, Bones, you will notice that tingle feels VERY familiar. But it WON"T HURT!

There may be a bit of bleeding at first. This will go away after a few weeks. You can follow up with normal toothpaste brushing.

I do recommend also using Listerine mouthwash or ACT fluoride mouthwash, but I've done that for years and it was the meat tenderizer that made the difference.

There should be marked improvement within even a few weeks, with twice daily use.

Sorry about any typos, I have started an optical migraine and am having 'bagel vision' - gonna have to sign off now because I won't be able to read in about five minutes.

Good night, all, and god bless -

[Certain Hope]

((((((Stormy))))))) thanks for the tenderizer info. I've copied it all to my darling and he says he'll try it!


((((((((Bones))))))) Still hoping and praying over here.

And Dear Mr. Mud... how is Dear Mrs. Mud doing?

God bless you all.

Love,
Hope

[moonlight52]

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Storm))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Mr Moon has just copied and pasted your information he says hi and thanks although he is better at flossing than me he says we are going to use your method.HE SAYS THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((BONES))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I will be thinking of you on Thursday hang in there...................

Much love to you

moonlight

[Plucky]

Does meat tenderizer have MSG?
an interested but squeamish
Plucky

[Stormchild]

No, not the McCormick's unflavored. It only has salt and bromelain and I think sodium silicoaluminate. No MSG. On edit: Thank goodness, migraine effect dissipated. No pain...

Um, anyone who has high blood pressure and is on a low sodium diet should not use this stuff, because it is possible to absorb some of the sodium chloride through the mouth membranes while brushing.

I sure hope this works as well for others as it did for me...

[Bones]

Hops - I'll defer to Bones on this one, with a screen name like that I'd be willing to bet she knows!

Hope, Bones - re the meat tenderizer: pour a dime-sized amount into your palm, and wet the toothbrush, then use the wet brush to pick up the powder (mound it up onto the side of the brush). You will need to do this twice. First round basically removes the biofilm from your teeth - second round gets into the gumline. You really do have to brush at the gumline and you must get the brush around behind your back teeth, and on both sides of the jaw.

You will need to spit more often than usual, bromelain is a protease. On the second round of brushing, you should feel a distinct tingle, localized at the gumline. Once you have been scaled, Bones, you will notice that tingle feels VERY familiar. But it WON"T HURT!

There may be a bit of bleeding at first. This will go away after a few weeks. You can follow up with normal toothpaste brushing.

I do recommend also using Listerine mouthwash or ACT fluoride mouthwash, but I've done that for years and it was the meat tenderizer that made the difference.

There should be marked improvement within even a few weeks, with twice daily use.

Sorry about any typos, I have started an optical migraine and am having 'bagel vision' - gonna have to sign off now because I won't be able to read in about five minutes.

Good night, all, and god bless -

Thanks, Stormy.

I'm interested in trying that and I hope you feel better soon.

Bones

[Bones]

((((((Stormy))))))) thanks for the tenderizer info. I've copied it all to my darling and he says he'll try it!


((((((((Bones))))))) Still hoping and praying over here.

And Dear Mr. Mud... how is Dear Mrs. Mud doing?

God bless you all.

Love,
Hope

Thanks, Hope.

Bones

[Bones]

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Storm))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Mr Moon has just copied and pasted your information he says hi and thanks although he is better at flossing than me he says we are going to use your method.HE SAYS THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((BONES))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I will be thinking of you on Thursday hang in there...................

Much love to you

moonlight

Thanks, Moonlight.

Bones

[Bones]

No, not the McCormick's unflavored. It only has salt and bromelain and I think sodium silicoaluminate. No MSG. On edit: Thank goodness, migraine effect dissipated. No pain...

Um, anyone who has high blood pressure and is on a low sodium diet should not use this stuff, because it is possible to absorb some of the sodium chloride through the mouth membranes while brushing.

I sure hope this works as well for others as it did for me...

Hmmmmm........

High blood pressure runs in my family so I have to watch for that.

Bones

[Plucky]

I'm going to try it, if I can find it.    I'll also google those ingredients I never heard of.  If it keeps me away from the denstist (or rather, if it keeps me away and still with healthy teeth)  I'll do it, whatever it is.
Plucky