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Hopalong

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Little Vent Before Trip
« on: September 10, 2006, 12:36:28 AM »
Hi all...
I think I won't take my laptop. Better for me to change my rhythms during my vacation. (There'll be one there, anyway, if I get desperate.)

My Nbrother, former bully, has arrived. I greeted him nicely and we had a nice chat. Then he said, got a printer I can use, I'll just plug in my laptop...my blood turned to ice. About a year ago he invaded my computer and read through all my most personal documents (after specifically promising not to do that...he'd said at the time, oh, I'll just sit in that other chair, I only want to plug in my laptop...)

It was a horrible moment. So it's hard to believe that he has forgotten that episode? The thing is, he thought I wasn't going to be here when he arrived (I'm leaving a day late). Last time he was here he brought a small printer with him. This time, he comes in the door...no printer. So I'm thinking, he has planned all along to go into my study and help himself. Anyway, I didn't know what to do.

So I finally just now went and removed my printer and all its cables and took it into his room and said here you go.

I am not locking my study, there's no way to. And for all I know he'll go through every private thing I have. But I did get a power-on password onto my PC so he can't invade that again.

Otherwise, it feels creepy to leave him here in the house, so free to invade me again if he chooses. I thought he was shamed by what he had done, but fundamentally I still can't trust him. (I am packing my laptop and after he drops me at the car rental place in the morning I will be detouring past a friend's house to ask her to keep it for me during my week away. Isn't that pathetic, having to hide your computer from your sibling? I could just leave it under my bed but how do I know he won't be looking under there while I'm away?) I remember someone here suggesting frontal confrontation after the PC-invasion episode, and putting a lock on my study door...but I've chosen not to. Even though it's preserving some illusion, it's also a choice to declare inside myself that there is a still secure core I have built at great cost, and I will not let him rattle me.

It is also possible that he is grateful the whole thing is over and will not invade my study. But because I'll never know, I will always have to assume that he would if he wanted to.

It's sad. I have much sympathy for him and my SIL because of their daughter (in a residential school because of extreme delinquency, aggravated by bi-polar that wasn't diagnosed for a long time). I know they suffer over this. But boy, it's really difficult to turn your back on an N.

Then again, I made a conscious choice to forgive him, for MY sake. So I'm not going to brood about it.

I am going off on my vacation and I will not let anything ruin it. Boundaries up.

(Just got a nice email from my D, too. She's already there and excited about going to the ocean tomorrow.)

Hops
« Last Edit: September 17, 2006, 01:27:37 AM by Hopalong »
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2006, 12:44:40 AM »
How horrible. People don't get do they- once they abuse your trust it's not easy to ever trust them again.

A friend of mine recently told me she regularly checks all her husband's private email and messages in secret- she suspects he's looking for an affair and says she's 'collecting evidence' in case they end up in court. She was shocked when I said the divorce lawyer will have a field day with you too- privacy is a basic right!

You are right to take your computer to your friend, and think about the issues when you get back refreshed from your vacation.

Bon voyage!

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2006, 03:00:51 AM »
HOPS ,

Have a wonderful vacation with your daughter  :D

Much love to you

moon

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2006, 09:06:27 AM »
Hi Hops

You're doing the right thing, protecting your privacy. Enjoy your vacation, and best wishes for a good and healing time with your D.
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2006, 05:10:39 PM »



Hi Hops,

Here's wishing you traveling mercies. 

About brother...N's think your stuff is their stuff.  Really!  There is no distinction in thier mind.  If you lock down your stuff, then they are flabergasted that you'd dare do such a thing with their stuff.  Sad but true. :(

Anyway, have a good vacation.  Make lots of memories worth keeping. 

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 01:29:43 AM »
How yucky that you had to do all that and still hope that he won't invade your privacy. We had games like that in my house... we weren't allowed to look through their stuff, but my mother snooped in my purse and all. She was always trying to "catch me" at something.
I hope you have (had) a fabulous trip!!!!!!!!!
Love, Beth
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2006, 01:42:37 AM »
All you Dear People,
One of the things I looked forward to most was catching up with you!
Seriously. I found myself telling two close friends out of town how very, very much difference this board has meant in my life. I just wound up saying, it is truly a support group and I am amazed by the wisdom, compassion, intelligence, generosity and inspirational courage of so many people here.

Glad to be back!

My week away had many, many wonderful things about it. GS's powerful healing support must have come with me. I took the Dreaded Bag of Paperwork and just pounded through it during an hour when I was waiting for a friend at her doctor's appt. It was a great joy. I think so much of it had to do with not being here, home, tugged on psychically by so many things. I was away, I was relaxed, I could focus. So thanks again, GS. I will keep it up for you too. And there are many additional areas I want to make the very same growth in. Dealing With Things, simplest way to put it.

One thing on the trip that was difficult to deal with was my daughter...she came with a chip on her shoulder, was irritated at every hum, word, thought, gesture...everything I did. Her irritation mounted and then she had a spectacular rage at me. She said she hates me, and her grandmother, and feels I have put my mother before her. She began suggesting that I owed it to her to support her financially now because her childhood and early adulthood were made so difficult. She raged about not having a "normal" family or normal role models, and on and on. I did say to her, I do not owe you. (Because what I give and do for her is voluntary.) But ... it was very hard. Good that she got so much anger out (I waited until 55 to explode at my mother)...but incredibly painful to hear her say what she said. It also made me sad that the minute I handed her money (I had committed to her GRE application fee and some $$ toward her gas)...she turned charming. It hurt my heart to hear her so bitter about life. Before she attacked me she had been venting for a day or two in many directions: I hate this, I hate that...it dawned on me I've heard a person say "hate" so many times.

I do feel good that I was underreactive. Honestly emtional at times but not dramatic, and held my own center. It was draining and punishing but I have not gotten lost in it. I know D needs some therapy, and I know a lot of what she expressed was projecting things about herself onto me. Need more time to process it all. But I'm still glad she came.

She can't apologize. But she called the next night after she'd gotten home to tell me she has a cold virus and thinks I should be taking echincea and Vit. C and swabbing everything she touched with alcohol. Then, "I don't want to talk but just wanted to tell you that." I was glad...it sounded like "I care about you even though I blew up at you." And at one point that night she had said it would be good if we do could do some family counseling, and I said I'd be glad to. We'd have to work out meeting in a halfway point town...but I will let her take the lead. Hope she follows up.

In other respects the trip was lovely. Lots of sleep and reading and time with friends who love to just sit and talk togther. And best of all, the night before I arrived, my D spent hours and hours talking with my friend's husband, who is a college teacher and one of the kindest, best people I know. She is so father hungry and he was a friend of her father's and he does care about her. That made me very glad.

And glad to be home and tucked in. Mom fell over my dog and hurt her foot, but she's okay. And she and my brother had a good visit.

Hops
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2006, 07:40:15 AM »
Welcome back, Hopsy!  As you will see, it was a very productive week here as well!!!  I gotta get ready for work in a little while, just wanted to say hi.

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2006, 09:27:51 AM »
Dear Hops , 

Sounds Like your trip was productive on many levels.
My d has released her feelings and I think as a parent well
I am glad she feels safe enough to show her feelings.
AWWWWWWWWWWW HOPS
She is young AND just working it out.

You can not ever go wrong with LOVE.I missed you and glad you are back.My hubby and I and two dear friends are going
on a picnic today .I can not wait to listen to the birds and walk by the flowers and let my soul dance.

So much Love to you

MoonLight

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2006, 10:42:54 AM »
traveling mercies. 

I like that!

we weren't allowed to look through their stuff, but my mother snooped in my purse and all. She was always trying to "catch me" at something.

my mother too! I was a wicked child, I remember writing a pile of love letters once and 'hiding' them knowing she'd read them. She wasn't convinced they were real but didn't dare confront me directly suspecting I had tried to catch her out, she asked my friend instead who told me! I was about 12.

incredibly painful to hear her say what she said.

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I was relaxed, I could focus

yup, so much of not gettign things doen is focus I am finding, and finding a way around your own brain!

my D spent hours and hours talking with my friend's husband, who is a college teacher and one of the kindest, best people I know. She is so father hungry and he was a friend of her father's and he does care about her. That made me very glad.

how wise and giving you are; I know so many parents who are resentful when their kids seek from others what they cannot provide. Beautiful.

Welcome back- I missed you!

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2006, 04:59:20 PM »
Hoppy,
glad you're back.
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2006, 09:15:17 PM »
Hey Hops,
It sounds like you have the appropriate distance from your daughter figured out!!!!!! Good for you! You can be there for support and yet not "take on" her bad behaviors. She still sounds quite selfish (I am so sorry to say that, I know it must hurt when it is your own daughter), but you approached the situation perfectly!!!!!!!!
I am so glad you are back!
Love, Beth
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2006, 01:41:54 AM »
Thanks so much for this validation.

It is hard to feel her selfishness.
She said once, well who do you expect me to be, considering who you married?

I just chuckled and said, that's crossed my mind...

(She was acknowledging, I think, that her Dad's personality is coming out in her now.)

Not fun. But since she can't fight with a dead father, I got the load of it.

Thanks for the welcome back, guys. It feels like a welcome HOME.

love,
Hops
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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006, 10:17:29 PM »
It feels like a welcome HOME.

how has home been since you got back Hop?
Are you having a good week?

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Re: Little Vent Before Trip
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006, 10:44:37 PM »
Hi Write,
Thanks much for asking.

Mom fell over my dog while I was away, just bruised her foot but she's more clingy. Brother seemed relieved to leave but cooked a lot for her and was friendly to me. (I completely forgot to turn off my computer in my fatigue daze before I left!) Que sera...

My boss piled on great pressure the moment I got back and I'm having a tough time handling it.

I hurt (re-hurt) my back hauling a suitcase and stayed home to tend it today, had to take narcotics.
He sent me a peeved email ramping up the pressure more, although he'd made a mistake with the file.

I will need to work very hard to stay healthy as this job disappears and I still don't have another. The energy to survive this one day to day takes a lot out of me...not much energy left.

I'm actually thinking about asking my doctor if I should retire on disability. I CANNOT sit in a chair all day to edit and that's my living. I can do a few hours, but then need to work lying down with my laptop. I don't really know what to do.

Anyway, can't problem solve tonight...I'm grateful Write!

Hops
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