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afraid to be alone
« on: November 08, 2006, 08:27:38 AM »
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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 08:56:04 AM »
No advice here but a hug and to say you're not alone here

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 09:14:26 AM »
Hi Seasons

I think you get to the heart of why we stay in dissatisfactory or abusive relationships here, and yes it is scary to be alone.

I wrote about this a few days ago- I came home and thought wow, it's just me now!

It is a bit scary. But not impossible.

go belong to something. I feel out of touch with myself.

that's two things, to address separately.

Belonging to things, well I find if I am out of balance I don't do so well with 'joining in' and if you're here in US 'joining in' is what people do instead of friendship and a lot of people don't take too well to anything but exhuberant positivity! It's like a cultural thing- Ella Wheeler Wilcox recognised it and wrote a poem about it in 1883:

LAUGH, and the world laughs with you;
Weep, and you weep alone.
For the sad old earth must borrow it's mirth,
But has trouble enough of it's own.


I try to go along to a few things anyway, like different churches or concerts, and soak up some of the sense of community without having to be 'switched on', I look at it that way then it feels positive.

Being with yourself, that's a lifelong undoing of a combination of faulty parenting and abuse.

When we've spent any length of time with someone who hurt us we've internalised their messages of criticism and undermining, we do come to believe there's something wrong with us. We disconnect as a way to cope with daily life. That sense of spontaneity and trust and joy has faded....how do we get it back?

Reconnecting to ourself is a work in progress I think.

One of the little delights I am finding is in solitude, no one yelling at me and I can choose where to go, when to eat, how to do things without someone constantly yelling at me.

The downside is- it's just me. There's no impetus within my household to do anything much.

I've kept busy Seasons, but only doing things I want to do, trying different things and seeing what feels most meaningful and adapting them an letting them evolve, like my work and volunteering.

Work is a big thing in most people's lives yet we spend so little time 'choosing' the way we spend a huge chunk of our time. So that has been the focus for me: create a meaningful career. And for me that changes over time. I used to love high pressure busy environments, now I prefer more calm.

And balance is important: I work a lot with terminal illness and I realised it was starting to weigh heavily on me, it is very intense sometimes, so I have balanced it out with two jobs with very young children, which lightens my spirits and makes me see the wholeness of life, not just focus on its end.

The people who have passed are special to you Seasons, more poetry ( Tennyson, Ulysses )

I am part of all that I have met;
Yet all experience is an arch wherethro’
Gleams that untravell’d world, whose margin fades
For ever and for ever when I move.
How dull it is to pause, to make an end,
To rust unburnish’d, not to shine in use!


Maybe you could do something to commemorate those people, make their love part of your holidays in a positive way not just grieving? It's not 'dwelling on it' but how you dwell on it....

If I ever find myself alone on the holidays I will do something special for just myself, or go cook or serve for a communal meal at a church or charity. High days and holidays are important, our way of honouring ourselves and our beliefs and customs.

Any suggestions on how to work through this heavyness?

Is it organic: tired, poor diet, depression? That's to get out of the way first. Eat well, sleep well, gentle exercise as part of the routine, supplements.

Then work- how satisfactory is that and making little changes maybe or big ones when they seem appropriate.

I keep my thankfulness journal Seasons and every day note 5 things of importance or meaning from the day- it's amazing how we focus in on the negative and exclude the positive, I want to pay attention more and more to the little things which make all the difference.

Relationships will come, but we have to work on us so that the new kind feel good, and not slip back into the 'familiar' abusive patterns.

That is hard sometimes- to walk away from a potential friend or partner because it's not quite right and unsettling me- rather than look at it as any level of friendship is connection.

If we've done poor substitutes all our lives then it's going to take time and patience to wait and look for the real connections, and also they are going to feel different, more vibrant and maybe even threatening.

I thought I was going to have a heart attack the first few times I asserted myself in relationships & risked rejection or scorn, but now it's becoming second nature, and like this week with a job, it's not working, give notice, explain myself, deal with it. I could not have done that a few months ago even, it would have been agonising. Tell the guy I like how I feel and to stop playing games with me? And accept the empty response instead of hanging around catching the crumbs of attention or affection which withered me anyway?

I couldn't let go- but what was that post someone did, 'we have to let go of the life we're living to move to the life we're meant to have'? Something like that, I think it's Joseph Campbell.

Trust, Seasons. The universe has everything you need, and you are feeling your way to a new life.

You do belong!

I love your posts- they're always connected to something I've been thinking about too!

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 09:17:26 AM »
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No advice here but a hug and to say you're not alone here

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I can't express how much that ment to me. Thank you for letting me feel like I'm o.k. here. ((seasons))
"Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak Kindly. Leave the Rest to God."
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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2006, 09:30:19 AM »
(((((((((Seasons))))))))

and I felt bad because I didn't have any advice for you.

You are okay here, please believe that. By being here, you're okay!

I've just been reading about Joseph Campbell - thanks Write :D

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2006, 09:44:13 AM »
what do you think of Joseph Campbell P? It's a whole 'movement' here but I've had to delve more into understanding of other cultures and religion to get to grips with his mythology!

Hope you feel better soon Seasons, the holidays are expectations gone wild; I find it easier now I don't have the myth that I should have a happy laughing table for thanksgiving or the passionate midnight kiss on New year's...

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 06:37:44 PM »
AFRAID TO BE ALONE had my name written all over it.  I couldn't wait to read this thread and post but by the time I got through the first part of WRITE's reply  #2 I knew there was nothing left to say other than personal experiences.  WRITE you really nailed it - so profound and so, so painful.  I have so much more to say but I'm being called away. I hope my loopy brain will help me remember where to find this thread again - crazy alone - GS

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2006, 09:47:32 PM »
Yesterday I held the hands of a woman and very sick man as they sang to me a song from when they fell in love; the daughter and I had tears streaming it was so beautiful, and I looked at them, so proud, so happy, back there, 50 years ago, still dancing.

Those memories are so precious Seasons, they are what makes it all worthwhile.

I looked at this couple facing their final months together and I couldn't see sadness as their over-riding emotion, there was too much love and pride and thankfulness for a life well-lived together.

You have something wonderful and precious that many of us have not found yet, now you deserve to enjoy it.

I'm going to give myself permission to be a joyful partner and give him want, to feel like I belong, worthy, and free to except love and joy.
Sorry to bore you with the details. But I wanted to share my leap I'm taking today.


bore me? It's hearing things like this make life wonderful! Go Seasons!

I do so hope you and your husband enjoyed tonight Seasons!

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so profound and so, so painful.

GS you are not alone, I am thinking about you and sending you love.

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 08:42:26 AM »
So Seasons- how was your evening?!

Thank you jacmac, I appreciate your words. I am very lucky in my work to see so much wonderful stuff- I get to learn from people who have so much grace and love in them...and they provide a steady source of affection and example which is invaluable. I can only hope to emulate in some small way some of the remarkable people I have met, who are coping with such fortitude, courage and still shining with love.

Because despite my determination to accept and embrace living alone, I am lonely, there's often a lump in my throat where I just want to be held or stroked or comforted, and there isn't anyone who fills that companion/ partner role. Or ever has really.

And I was afraid of that but it's much better than I thought it would be to sit and think 'I am lonely but healthy and now there's a space in my life for if I meet someone & we can love each other', than being married and struggling just to keep some semblance of sanity!

My ex always says ( and does ) the wrong things, even now as he tries so hard to be reasonable and kind, his lack of empathy with me feels so disconnected, so wounding.

It's familiar of course, and it's 'my family' and I appreciate I have them to visit and hang out with and raise a beautiful ( if obnoxiously pre-pubescent ) child.

But having someone to lean into but not lose yourself, to hold each other and have joy together and grow in understanding and love...yes I am lonely for that.

I am proud I told my latest potential relationship to stop messing with me though too- it's too easy to let go and fall into the old patterns yet.

I know I probably was too strident, too 'boundarised' ( if you know what I mean ) but I was annoyed about all this gazing into my eyes and besotted body language not corresponding with his words. He isn't N and I don't think he even knew on one level- he is very inexperienced with relationships and I know I was responding as though he was N and doing something deliberately, but my voice was soft and I chose my words carefully.

In future I hope I can simply gently detach without saying anything though- I know I was projecting out 'don't N with me!' and 'I am very lonely and you are hurting me' which are both nothing to do with others!

You have a great person to hang out with..............YOU.

It really is like that I think- building yourself up to have a great life whether there's a partner to share it with or not. The 'need' for a partner is very deep and on many levels, but it is possible to fill life with good friends and interesting acquaintences and fulfilling activities.

In fact it's probably a very good idea to do so not only because I might never find the 'life partner', but also the happier and healthier I am the more everyone gets to see 'the me I can be' and the more likelihood of attracting the people who will connect to my whole person and no unresolved issues get in the way.

It is a mind set to be happily single in most cultures though, and a challenge to go without sex and close companionship for long periods of time.

I am realistic though: being alone is not killing me, it is making me stronger, and I am getting less fearful of loneliness and every day I have a good day in some way, and go to sleep feeling more and more whole.

The empty shell gets stronger and filled, there is a fledgeling me in there now, and my wings are damp but I'll keep shaking them and hold on to the hope of flight!

I love your voice too GS, hang in there.

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 08:51:02 AM »
I'm going to take it and use what I have discoved today that I didn't think or know of yesterday.

ain't that the lesson of everything in one succinct sentence!
( how can you say you don't write well?! )

I am grinning too at the thought of your happy time and being there in the moment Seasons- the more you do that the more your pain and fear will recede, and I know your husband will be overjoyed to see you fly from that shell...

My therapist ( who I am seeing today to re-establish contact in case I need extra support if the divorce gets paiNful ) once said 'it's not as bad as you think' and that imprisoning shell does crack when we are no longer embryoinc emotional beings, and ready to move towards independent goals and relationships.

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 10:44:29 AM »
This thread is just stunning (Seaons, your awakening is so beautiful, and Write, your writing, your approach to your work, the same...). I am so glad when people openly discuss loneliness. It is the first topic I brought to this board a year ago. I have little I can add except a few quotes:

Little do men perceive what solitude is, and how far it extendeth. For a crowd is not company, and faces are but a gallery of pictures, and talk but a tinkling cymbal, where there is no love.
— Sir Francis Bacon

Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self.
— May Sarton

Loneliness is the worst pain in this world. It constantly eats away the person's heart, and can cause the person to hate, to feel enraged--the same rage and hate that can cause one person to kill another. It is like a wound of the heart; the type of wounds that cannot go away with a kiss or a hug. The only thing that can make this great pain go away is love and compassion, another human heart to pull them out of this hell.
— Diana

Loneliness is the anxiety that you do not matter at all. –Joyce Hugget

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Re: afraid to be alone
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2006, 11:19:02 AM »
Thanks you Hops.  I especially love the May Sarton quote.  I see the source of my lonliness and understand so fully why and how it is loneliness as opposed to solitude.  Thank you for these wonderful quotations. - GS