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Moonlight
« on: December 10, 2006, 05:33:57 PM »
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When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 10:13:23 PM »
Sending tons of support to you and your son...
what a difficult thing to face right when you swimming through such a wave.

You sound so centered and sane and I am hugely impressed, CB.

I feel so optimistic your boy is going to be okay.
Better than okay!

Hops
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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 12:23:57 AM »
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When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 12:57:16 AM »
CB, honey...

Just show up.
You can't heal your son.
You can only sit with him, be present to him, and love him while he heals himself...

The anger makes so much sense.

But as you heal yourself, which you'll do, then you will be free.

Your soon2bx doesn't deserve all that attention and soon he will not be the focus of your minds.

Damn and blast him for hurting your son. But he will survive.

Please don't despair, and just show up. That's all you need to do.

(And show up for yourself first. Sit with this wonderful woman you are...be very kind to her.)

(((((((((((((((CB)))))))))))) I'm sitting with you. We're all in a circle. I'm so sorry.
Hops
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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 06:20:06 AM »
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When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 01:08:54 PM »
CB,

If they do think you are a harpy, then they are wrong.  They have been wrong before and they would be wrong about that.  It shouldn't be a problem to check this one last thing, the thyroid.  If they give you a hard time, it is because of their own insecurities and flaws.  You are just being a good mom.  And even though you are tired, you will have enough strength to see this through.  That's just the way it works.

All my best to you ((((((((((CB)))))))))))))))

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"We all shine on, like the moon, and the stars, and the sun."
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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 11:06:12 AM »
Moonlight,

I am combing the site for bits of wisdom.  I ran across your quote, here:

"When I am in the state of higher self bipolar is a gift and can be managed"

I love it.  A gift.

Thanks, Moonlight.

CB
When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 11:32:28 AM »
The doctor was very blunt that the stuff with his dad precipitated this.

which country are you in? ( makes a difference for diagnosis and treatments- and this is massively overdiagnosed in the states so it's good your doctor is being cautious, these drugs have side-effects and there are social implications with any mental illness )

I have Bipolar 1 and though it has meant a sweeping set of lifestyle changes I use very little medication and the mood swings don't get so out of control any more.

People who meet me mostly don't even know there is anything wrong with me and people who have known me for years 'forget' because I am ill so infrequently.

Stress is a trigger for mania and depression, but re his father don't beat yourself up- none of us can go through life without some stresses and whilst we want to make our kids' lives perfect that's not healthy either.

It's important your son grows up to be able to deal with what life throws at him, not only cope when things are going well.

Manic depression brings many gifts to my life like with Moon- creativity and compassion are two. I love my work with alzheimer patients which brings together the two, and I never worry about trying new things or getting stuck in a rut.

Your son with or without a mental illness is a wonderful unique special guy, but the challenges of living with a disability or illness give a dimension and perspective on life which can enrich not only his experiences but everyone around him.

We focus too much on the negatives in all aspects of life but living with managed bipolar is a joy- it really is an amazing illness.

Moon paints, I write and compose, and thousands of creative capable people have done great things through their bipolar.

Give yourself time to adjust and learn more about it, and it is a diagnosis made over years rather than quickly.

If I could tell any young person the dos and don't I would say:
*avoid any mood-altering substances ( alcohol, decongestant meds, caffeine ) in everyday life
*be focussed on a healthy diet and daily exercise- the more well you are the easier to cope
*prioritise the illness; if you need to be home stay home- I use down time as a way of manaaging things and even when I have been very manic my doctor prescribed higher doses of benzodiazepines and I slept for most of 48 hours and was much better next day
*avoid stress- you can't avoid the inevitable but you can learn to manage your life so everyday stresses are minimised; I allow extra time for journeys now, always have routes planned, manage my finances carefully, and say no if I need to.
*I think it is especially important for people with mood disorders to manage relationships- chaotic or abusive relationships get tangled up in the illness and it's impossible to know what's going on. We feel emotions more strongly than other people and things get very intense- some of the people who are attracted to that intensity are NPDs and people with big issues. If you help your son learn all about making healthy relationships he can avoid a lot of the heartache which comes with bipolar intensity: a broken heart really does feel like you're dying. I also think it's part of learning to manage it- telling yourself again and again, it's the illness, it's an effect of the illness, it may not be as painful as it seems....of course that comes with maturity and experience.

btw I am quite manic today, having to be home mostly and took seroquel last night and tonight; that is an effect of working so hard in the holiday season and doing so much driving which is a trigger for me.

Sending you love, you will get through this and you will be amazed how much your son can acheive with a positive attitude to it and using the extra energy to do beautiful things.

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 11:46:47 AM »
I wish I could express how healing all your posts are during this time of uncertainty.

Write, thank you so much.  I always try to see the gift in hard situations, but I have struggled so with this one.  You have given me so much to think about and carry around with me today.  I think I can finally get up and face the day.

CB
When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 12:13:04 PM »
CouldBe123

You are stronger than you feel.  Your strength has carried you through and though you have spent it all to get where you are today it is replenishing as fast as you use it and that well of strength will not run dry.  If you trust that then you will feel small suges of the replenishing.  You may be angry that you have had to be so strong.  Go ahead and be angry.  But your strength is you ally even if it takes so much out of you.

I want to point out some things from you post.  I have cobbled your own words together in a little different order.

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I just dont have the confidence to trust my own judgment.
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I said "no".  It took everything in me to say it.
 
You confidence is there, you said, "NO."  It has taken a severe beating but it is there.  You have learned to put a wall up to your husband's demeaning voice and you will begin to feel you confidence grow.

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I talked to his doctors yesterday and they told me "no", this is not thyroid related.

Thyroid is part of the endocrine system and that whole system directly effects the functioning of the brain.  Your voice is strong and it will lead you to the help you need.  It did last year and it will again.  Trust your voice.  It will lead you to the right doctor.

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My son was so sensitive during that time to any conflict between my h and myself. I left my son to his father's care and took care of things at home. My husband is a doctor.  I feel now that I abandoned him.

You didn't abandon your son.  You protected him from conflict and you trusted him to his father whom he loves and who is a doctor and you trusted him to the medical staff.  That is not abandonment.  Your other children needed you also and you were there for them.  When you came back to the hospital you saw that your son needed more.  Because of YOU he got the medicine he needed.  You did not abandon him.  You were there for him.  Thank goodness you were there for him.

These dark days will soon begin to grow lighter. It is the dead of winter and the sun is low on the horizon but not for long.

We are with you.  So many of us are with you. - much love and courage from your friend - Gaining Strength
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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 08:34:25 PM »
Write,
If you were
a strawberry
at life's fondue
you'd be dipped
in gold

Moon,
If you were
a mama wolf
your pups would
howl harmony

GS,
If you were
a night-blooming
flower the world
would need
no moon

CB,
If you were
the most amazing
mother you'd
be exactly what
you are

Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 10:44:20 PM »
ah Hops-

you are a river,
cutting long deep valleys
casual slopes
green terraces
sweet hiding places
where we gather
never far from
your splashing laughter
carried onward
always forward
in your course....

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Re: Moonlight
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 11:05:22 PM »
 :oops:


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