Christmas morning dream

[whoami]

Woke up having dreamed that there were men in the women's bathroom. I was ushering them OUT.  Their were women in wheelchairs and the men were pushing them around. 

I think this dream is about men-controllers pushing women around who appear helpless.  I was ushering them out because they did not belong in the places they supposed themselves to be welcome. 

This is not to say that women cannot be the controllers in a situation.  I just think it was men in the dream.  The women were the helpless ones.  The more we appear helpless the more these N men will try to butt in where they are not really welcome making every decision for us, telling us how to wipe our butts, so to speak.  LOL

 - whoami

[reallyME]

whoami

The more we appear helpless the more these N men will try to butt in where they are not really welcome making every decision for us, telling us how to wipe our butts, so to speak.  LOL

I agree with this.  Controllers tend to prey upon people who give off a "vulnerable scent"...it's true, and, if you ever listen closely to an N, they actually TELL you that they know exactly who to prey upon.

[reallyME]

I forgot to add onto my former post response to whoami and all...

In my case, I was giving off the "vulnerable scent" by being in constant, verbal depression on the internet...going around telling people how upset I was that my friend dumped me...and along came the control person, smelled my helplessness, and VOILA, INSTANT SUPPLY (though I do think that she believes she is one who is meant to come along and help people pick up the pieces of their lives to move on toward their Destiny...in other words, she "Means" well?  maybe?  only GOD knows what she means or why...not sure she even knows, since she doesn't let that part of her inner self operate.

[Hopalong]

Amazing dream, Whoami!
Thanks for sharing it.

Kudos to you, RM, for recognizing exactly how you signaled you were ready for an N.
That's great. I bet you'll be spared the repetition compulsion so many trained-by-Ns (myself included) waste years in.

Happy Christmas,
Hops

[whoami]

....and a more spiritual interpretation of my dream would be that God was showing me that I have the authority to take over controlling spirits.  A bathroom represents a prayer closet where one does the warfare needed to deal with things that hinder in the spirit realm.  Only in the authority of Jesus Christ is that possible... otherwise we are looking merely at psychological  self help strategies (which I don't object to at all and feel are also very necessary!).  But I thought I'd add this for those who might be interested. 

Thanks for listening.

Merry Christmas to you all!

-whoami

[whoami]

It is not so much that the BIBLE is sexist, as was the culture of that time.  So when Jesus came along, God used a WOMAN without the man... wow... interesting!  God reversed it a bit.   Jesus spoke to women who were to be shunned by his culture and he over and over again reversed the stigma on women.  Even women were the first at the tomb to see and then go proclaim.  They were the first after the resurrection preachers!  But men were and still are to be the spiritual head of the home, not because God is mad at women, but because someone had to do it, and it represents the bridegroom being Christ who has authority over the church (bride).  I would not want it the other way around.  God knows best!  But even HE did not want men to lord it over the wives and be narcassists! 

[Stormchild]

Words to comfort you, bean, at Christmastide:

Rahab and Ruth are part of the genealogy of Christ... look them up; one was a harlot, and one was a Moabite.

The first announcement of the Messianic Secret was made, by Christ, to a SAMARITAN woman, living in sin, divorced or put aside by a paramour five times prior.

Christ himself was conceived by an unwed teenage mother.

All of this entirely in accordance with God's will.

God is a radical feminist, even if His children are not. He sees not only what is, but what can be, and what could have been. He values us because we are, not because we are 'this' or 'that'.

Sobering thought, but very, very freeing.

[reallyME]

An intriguing topic, Penelope,,,

My personal opinion about why only the men were mentioned, was because men in those days were really the focus, as the seed-planters (even though the women carried what the seed produced).   Males were viewed as the strong, in charge human beings that were most important to carry on the human race...as whoami said, because of the people's attitudes of that day.  (The "heir" concept was really big in that day too!)

[invisible]

I have to agree with reallyME about the "SEED" being the emphasis.

The word for seed in the Greek is sperma, from which, of course, we get the word 'sperm'. In the Hebrew the word seed also means sperm. Why was this so emphasized? I believe it was because of God's promise to Abraham in Genesis 2:18, where He told Abraham that in his (Abraham)'s seed all the nations of the world would be blessed. If we look at the genealogies of Jesus in the New Testament, they make sure to show that Jesus was a physical descendant of Abraham. Also, the Messiah was to be of the seed of King David as well, so that is also shown.

The twist for us women is, of course, the fact that Jesus' mother was the only one who contributed to his earthly DNA. So actually, although His bloodline was certainly traced all the way through Abraham and David, His Father was God. And that seems to be what God was referring to way back in Genesis in the Garden in Eden when He made a very strange statement. In Genesis 3:15 He told the serpent "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.”

This is the first Biblical reference to a Messiah / Savior who would come. It is interesting that God said that the woman's seed  would bruise the serpent's head. Not the man's seed. Women don't produce sperm so I think that was a reference to the fact that the Messiah would get His earthly DNA from His mother.

The truth is that God never demeans woman. I love what has been posted on here already. Let us not forget the woman caught in adultery. It is amazing to me that her accusers did not drag the man out to be stoned as well. There had to be a man if she was CAUGHT in adultery! Jesus refused to accuse her. Instead, He turned to her accusers and made them see their own sin. To the woman He gave mercy, grace, and kindness.

And I was just thinking also of the deep love He had for His mother. On the Cross, in excruciating pain, He stopped everything else to make provisions for John to take care of her and to take her as his (John's) own mother. Isn't that a cool Son??!!

And Paul's instructions to husbands were quite simply to love their wives just the same way that Jesus loves His Church - so much that He died for her. He treated her with respect and honor and love. There is no room for abuse or any type of mistreatment in that instruction. Just the opposite!

These are just my musings!