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Blue Monday
« on: February 19, 2007, 03:36:27 PM »
Hi folks.
I realize I've been posting vats of advice that I'm not taking.
I'm pretty out of sorts today.
Just want to type it out:

I feel disgusted with myself.
I've gone paralysed about paperwork (including bill paying) and am completely stuck on the threshold of simply picking up the pieces of paper (now have a cratefull) and doing what needs to be done with them.
I am watching TV, way too much.
I have been overeating and not exercising so my clothes don't fit and I'm walking around with a wedgie.

I feel flat, blecchhy, and I swear if I weren't post-menopausal I'd think I have PMS.

The monotony of going home to my mother every night about makes me want to scream.
But I have to fix her dinner.

I have been doing some weird in-the-night getting up and eating, and I don't remember it.
I know it's from taking Ambien, without which I can't go to sleep.

thanks for listening to me complain.

Hops
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 03:50:24 PM »
I have heard amny people complain about AMBIEN. I took one some years ago, and the next day I had three car accidents on the same day. I have heard of some people with halucinations after ambien. Please, consider that.
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 04:25:43 PM »
Awwwwwww ((((((((((((((((Hops)))))))))))))))))))))))) and ((((((((((((((((((((((((CB))))))))))))))))))))

Are you taking an antidepressant too? One antidepressant that I took made me more depressed.

Am on Effexor now and a new drug, Lyrica, for neurological paiin, but it is also for General Anxiety Disorder (and fybromyalgia) This Lyrca is great, but expensive.
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 04:52:51 PM »
Hi guys.
Cheers me to hear from you.

Thank you. (CB, you've earned your slothfulnesss!!!! I haven't.)

Yep, Izzy, I'm on Cymbalta (prescribed for neuralgia but it's an effecitve anti-dep), also on a low dose of gabapentin for RLS.

I just think I have too many brain-nervous-system Rx going on.

Right now, though, I won't abandon the Cymbalta. I think the one to get rid of is the Ambien.

I know I need some kind of sleep aid, at least transitionally, and I am going to hunt for the NON-timed-release benadryl, if they still make it.

Ugggh. I never intended to become a pillhead. Or a human potato.

Been reading on Ambien and sleepwalking and sleep-EATING are known although rare side effects. CREEPY.
No wonder I'm feeling stuffed.

Plus, I just accidentally ate bacon in a sandwich. Waaah!

Hops
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 06:50:28 PM »
Hi Hops:

Been reading your advice lately and bobbing my head in agreement.  Nothing more to add or at least my brain hasn't been bursting with stuff to write so I've just been reading and learning.

So sorry you're going through this blue period.  No fun, that's for sure.  This is a hard time of year for a lot of people, I think.  Winter blahs, isn't it called?  I've felt similar stuff and had similar thoughts as what you've written.  Here's what helped me, in case it might be of use to you too:

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I'm pretty out of sorts today.

I know I need to think stuff like: "This is ok and normal.  No one has day after day of pure wonderous joy (well....most people don't anyhow eh?).  I have a lot of responsibility taking care of my mom and it's ok to feel the weight of that, at times." 

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I feel disgusted with myself.

I've said this about myself but what I really meant is that I feel disgusted with my behaviour.  As a person, I'm still ok, in my head.  I can change my behaviour, so all is not lost!  (if it's myself I really think is rotten to the core, then I know I need to go do some work on my self-esteem).

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I've gone paralysed about paperwork (including bill paying) and am completely stuck on the threshold of simply picking up the pieces of paper (now have a cratefull) and doing what needs to be done with them.

When something looks like a mountain it seems waaaaaaay too big for me to climb and I get that stuck feeling too.  The only way I've found to beat the mountain is to break it down into small uphill runs.  So, in this case I might tell myself:  "I am going to tackle the first 5 bills, small stack of paper/whatnot...one hour from now" and then, 15 min later, remind myself:  "I will be doing those 5 bills in 45 min" and again, 15 min later, "Just a half hour until I get to those 5 bills" and 15 more min...."In 15 min I will be doing those 5 bills and feeling good about it!!"

Sometimes, I have to break stuff down into the smallest goals/tasks in order to get a thing done.  Otherwise, it just seems overwhelming.  Funny enough, once I do set the tiniest plan in action, it usually ends up with me doing it and finding it not nearly as bad as I thought it would be and often too.....doing more than I had planned. 

I usually celebrate with a nice cuppa tea after those 5 bills are done and a few kind thoughts about myself  and then I think about the next batch, set a time,  an exact goal and then, remind myself some more.  I really do have to nag myself sometimes....to do the simplest stuff.  Like anything, it's consistency that helps get the job done.

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I am watching TV, way too much.

For me, this may mean I'm lacking energy and I might need to get some multivitamins and drink more water.  It may mean I'm starting to get depressed and I need to talk with someone, write stuff down or go pound my bongo drums for awhile.  Or it might just be a bit of a bad habit, which I will need to focus on changing.  I can decide to limit my tv time and go do something else for the rest of the time and remind myself, as above, of my decision.

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I have been overeating and not exercising so my clothes don't fit and I'm walking around with a wedgie.

But you haven't lost your sense of humour so horray for that!!  Ok.  So again, all I can do to get motivated is make a decision to do the smallest thing.  I might decide I will at least go for a 5 min walk.  Write notes to remind myself.  Put my shoes where I can't miss them as a reminder.  Nag nag nag!!  It's all in my head.  I can indeed decide what I will do.  I am not a prisoner in some jail cell.  I have the power to move!

The food.  The food!!  I lllloooooooooove food!  It's my biggest enemy!!  I gain weight looking at food!  And I love to cook!  But.....

I do have to nag and remind and nag and remind myself that I looooooove health most!  That I am in charge (not the food) and that I can make little changes that will add up to whole lot, in time.  Eat more fruit!  End my meal with a small salad.  Promise myself I'll eat an apple a day!  And drink that water!!

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  The monotony of going home to my mother every night about makes me want to scream.
But I have to fix her dinner.

Could you play some of your favorite music, while you prepare the dinner?  Sing along maybe?  This probably isn't the healthiest but maybe substitute the odd prepared or frozen meal, while you crunch on carrots and slurp yogurt, reading your favorite magazine?  Can you experiment on her with your new recipes? (sounds almost cruel!!  :shock:  But I bet you're a good cook Hops!!).  How about making a number of meals at once and freezing them ahead?  Give yourself a night off, sort of, if you only have to heat up a meal?

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I have been doing some weird in-the-night getting up and eating, and I don't remember it.
I know it's from taking Ambien, without which I can't go to sleep.

Can you check with your doc?  Is there something else you can take?  Why can't you fall asleep?  Is that being addressed?  Have you had a sleep study?  I went through a period where this was a problem and I solved it by reading the most boring thing I could find, lying in bed, until sleep was just better.  Trouble sleeping can be another sign of depression Hops.  Are you getting enough vitamin D/taking in some sunshine?

I hope some of this helps and if not.....see if you can at least.....lose the disgusted with yourself thoughts.  Those aren't helping and I know you are very far from a disgusting person.  We all have down time, maybe you just need divide it all up into small tasks, instead of this great load that it feels like.  Pick one thing and make your mind up to do it and then don't forget to give yourself credit for doing something to help yourself!!

(((((((((Hoppy)))))))))

Small small steps.  There I go nagging again.  It works for me but maybe not everybody.  It just makes sense to me when stuff builds up and looks like a big mess, to tidy up a little at a time.

Sending you a big bottle of motivation and a shiney red apple!  (full of pectin and vitamin C ...all sweet and juicy!)

Sela

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 07:45:34 PM »
Hi Hops,
Sorry you're dealing with the blues.  I think those days are part of being 56, don't ya think? :?  I take nightly sleep meds too.  I used to fight it and had many sleepless nights, leading to even worse days--so I gave up and resigned myself to the fact that I need them.  I have used Restoril for many years and have no side affects.  I tried some of the newer generation stuff, i.e., Ambien, Lunesta, etc., and it was much more expensive and not as effective, so I went back to the generic Restoril, which only costs me $4 a month.

As far as the paperwork goes, I agree with Sela that trying to deal with a little at a time, followed by a small reward for your hard work, would be one way to handle it.  I can't imagine having to take care of my mother (now dead) on a daily basis, so I know that must be a difficult situation.  I hope things get better soon.  Have you considered buying a Harley :shock:??  How is the new job going?  Well, I hope.

((((((((Hops))))))))

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 07:59:28 PM »
(((((((((((((((Hopsy))))))))))))

Do you think maybe it could be the moon? I have had the worst past four days... I am trying just to hold my head out of the water at this point. In spite of changing my diet and working out and all that, I see myself as a cow who will never get anywhere. I am trying to be happy, and just can't be. I am with my family and not enjoying what I normally do enjoy. It is a dark, dark mood I am suffering from right now.

I agree with the others that it sounds like a medicine check might be in order.

Also, I am so glad you got on here and admittesd these feelings so that you could see them in black and white. Sometimes that's the only way to start dealing with them.

Lots of love your way, my dear, and a hope that a shift in the moon or planets will bring some peace :)

Love, Beth
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 08:02:25 PM »
Hey Guys!!  Yea!  For once I am not ranting or blue.  It was sunny out today....45 degrees (hot compared to the cold snap we have been enduring for weeks!!)  I walked the dog extra long and made sure I noticed the clouds and the vapor trail behind a plane WAY up in the sky!!!  I was happy that my friend's cardiologist appointment went well.  I am optimistic about my job.  My resolve to walk away from my mom and my job is there.......I second guess myself every once in awhile but then I read Leah's post about being broadsided by her dad and I remember to not  be sucked into Nmom's lair..................I keep humming the songs from Phantom of the Opera......my daughter and I went to the play the other night.....started out at a real yuppie restaurant....had a nice glass of Monchoff Estate Reisling........then a Starbucks!!!  I am having a great time!!  Maybe the Lexapro is helping.  And my sleep aid of choice??  Benadryl....

Hops and CB you are always there with an encouraging word!!  Hope you can have some of my sunshine!!!  Here's to ya!
Kelly

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 08:10:26 PM »

(((((((((( Hops ))))))))))))


You have my full admiration and respect for your openness and honesty.


Today I had to go and take my work to an office ............. mortified that I cannot get into my suit ... chunky legs have returned

Got to go get a new suit in bigger size  :(.......... have put the weight back on that I lost ........ so I beat myself up

for sitting 'reading' too much ....... my work is sitting in front of a computer ......... plus spare time .... online reading.... now postings too.

Piles of papers stacked around me ......... spare desk is somewhere!

Felt guilty, wretched and horrible .........  beat myself up some more.

Then, went for a walk in the cold sunshine ..............

Walked along ..... watched the river, saw some bunny rabbits ........ heard the birds ........ saw new buds on branches that swayed in the breeze ..............

Then shed a tear ......... as I realised how blessed I am .......... to walk, to see, and to hear ........ all this simple beauty .......

Late afternoon went shopping and bought lots of nice healthy food and fruit .... not been eating well ... living on sandwiches .. and bread is a no no for me (gluten)

Tomorrow morning, I am going to go for a walk ... then ....... make a start on my paper mountain.

my thought is that if I do the same each morning for even just an hour

this time next week ........ things will look different .........

and then I have the following week to look forward to.


Love and a Hug

(((( Leah ))))


Oh .... forgot to mention that due to feeling happy to be alive in this beautiful ... troublesome world ........I called pops a...... sharp slap in the face....... posted on a new thread.


Hey ho and away we go .....

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 08:55:17 PM »
Hops,
 
I can relate with exception of going home to my mom. I do have some a ltitle different though.



I'm sitting here with my house a mess which I should be cleaning.
I'm trying to make dinner at the same time.
I forgot to call the dr to find out when my son gets his staples out.
I'm helping my little one with his book report. He has to make it as if he wrote it and selling it to a movie company.
I had to read the book in an hour to find out what the hec my son was talking about.
He cast my daughter as Godzillas part
I am addicted to the show 24
I'm breaking out in hives
I dropped my earing in the stove and left it there
I can't get enough chocolate
I was supposed to get my hair cut but decided to cut it my self, Oy!
I have hot flashes and accuse everyone of turning up the heat
I can't remember anymore
I cry watching the Dr. Phil show sometimes.

And tommorrow I might be just fine and dandy

Love Deb


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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 11:29:09 PM »
Dearest Hops, me old trout ( a Newfoundland expression of endearment)

I just like you so much.  You are a beacon in the wilderness with your honesty about allllll your feelings. 
I notice that weekends are daunting for you.  Also you are not taking good care of yourself lately. Remember paper mountain.  No one cares if you die at your desk.

Also your feelings of frustration with you mother are healthy. Maybe it is a call for boundaries.

You go ahead and complain as much as you like. You are so great about having compassion for me when I am in the black hole of Calcutta.  That compassion is so precious to me.  I am wishing for you to have compassion for yourself. You work hard to make a better world for others.

I don't feel like a loser when I hear that you have your moments too.

Love,

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 11:45:45 PM »
Hops:
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I have been overeating and not exercising so my clothes don't fit and I'm walking around with a wedgie.

Hops, you are so funny.  Maybe it is partly winter.  It has been a long one.  I say get the ol' scissors out and get creative - maybe make yourself a thong!  Hang in there.  Spring is around the corner.  I see more motorcycle rides in your future. 

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 12:33:09 AM »
Overwhelming.

You people are amazing.

I really don't know how to say thank you enough.

I am dazed by the kindness and all your voices.

Thank you.

Knowing you're all here means I can face Tuesday.

With love and much much gratitude,

Hops
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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 09:46:29 AM »
Hops,

So sorry to hear you are struggling at the moment.  When I get like that i think of the looking at the sky and the clouds, they come they go, no matter what happens in the universe everything keeps moving and changing.

You sound like such a sociable and fun person who has little time to enjoy that part of yourself.  I know your Mom needs a lot of care but WHAT ABOUT YOU.  I feel it would be in your interest to take care of yourself and put yourself first for a change.  God forbid but if anything happened to you tomorrow somehow your Mom would get taken care of.  This is your life also, putting things on hold while your Mom is alive does not sound healthy to me.  I am very concerned about you.

CAn you come up with some plan Hops whereby you have some outlet for yourself, not just a once off event but some regular healthy interesting challenges which will make you feel better.

i know when I was caring for my Daughter I made a point of getting someone into the house a few times a week to look after her so that I could get out and do something.  The reward of this was that we had more interesting things to talk about, I felt happier, the caring did not overwhelm me.

I dont know if t his is any help to you........... wish I could pop over there and Mom sit for a few evenings for you.

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Re: Blue Monday
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 02:34:16 PM »
Oh Tuesday is a light teal, not nearly so blue!
Thanks to all of you!  :)

Thank you for the many many good ideas...I'm at work so won't thank you indivdually as I properly should, but I appreciate:
Rx review
recognizing I do try to do good
suggested things to EAT (did a crockpot full of her favorite beans this a.m. w/help from her a.m. caregiver)
reminding me it wouldn't be abnormal to get EVENING "sitters" for her now and then--so I could go straight from work to something

I am quite serious that I basically mainlined your kindness and support, and it was so helpful to just vent it all. I think knowing y'all are here with ears means everything. After all I did get going on it after I expressed the hitting bottom feelings. Wowsers.

Occurs to me her huge neglectful church doesn't do much. Well, they send communion every couple months and about once a month a lady comes and spends an hour. But maybe I could email her church and ask if there is a team that might trade off an EVENING once or twice a month, bringing her a meal and staying an hour so I could not worry about it. (She's been to my church for a whillion things, and when I was in CA a few years ago for work, a whole team of UUs visited her just to ease my mind, even though she was safely in a nursing home having PT at the time.)

Gears whirring...

Hops
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