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A Story and a Few Words of Encouragement
Confused71:
Hi,
I'm new here, and don't really know what's going on, but the feeling I get straightaway from reading this thread is that sometimes I think one can read too much into something that really isn't there. Heck, I do that a lot myself. I think that comes from being a sensitive soul, which is not a bad thing necessarily, but sometimes I think one can overanalyse things too much and see intent when there is none. I've only been reading this board a short while and I feel that everyone here has a good heart, but I think there's a lot of misunderstanding going on from all directions. Sometimes I think it's best to give one another breathing space, which is why I think it was probably sensible that Mr Grossman locked the threads when he did, and I don't believe there was any hidden agenda in that. What I seem to see quite a bit of on this board is a lot of analysing of others sometimes, but not enough supporting. Just my 2 cents.
Anonymous:
To Rosencrantz,
Thankyou for recognising my motivation for posting and expressing your support of my right to post my concerns.
I'm sorry that you doing this has put you under attack. I hope you can walk away from his thread in tact. It's not worth it. RG can respond or not. That's fine I had my say.
If others here feel I don't have these rights, that's okay. I wasn't really interested in their opinions one way or the other. My post was directed to Richard Grossman anyway. I didn't really take too much notice or offence at the others who felt the need to defend his moves. I figure if he felt threatened or the ned to defend himself against little old me, he's big enough to do it himself.
I like this place, and will continue to pot and I'm trying very hard not to get into arguments with people or defend myself uselessly. Thanks everybody for your repsonses. Now back to what ails me.
Bye
Guest.
Anonymous:
Good lord "concerned guest"... you try running the board & let's see how you'd do! Choices have to be made. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't is how it goes.
I think Richard did the best thing in trying to bring back harmony to the group, and let me tell you, from what I've seen around here whenever I check-in, that is no small feat!
There is always discord & it seems to be the same few people at the center of it. I don't know if Richard can track IP numbers as part of the tech. setup of the board, but if it is possible, I'd be all for me banning the IP's of consistent trouble makers.
He did not create voicelessness by locking the post. You are free as a bird to address any issues that this board was intended for. As other's have said, that is, support & sharing regarding voicelessness and dealing with N's in our everyday lives.
Yes, disagreements occcur & it is sometimes best to let them be sorted through to the end, but the arguing that goes on here, & with the same people, is relentless, and that is the difference, and why it seems necessary to lock threads.
May I *gently* say, that it seems you have do have strong feelings regarding what you might deem an "authority figure". Your language directed at Richard seemed really harsh & defensive. This is not a criticism of you, only something you might want to consider. Though, what will probably happen are scathing words directed back at me.
Richard is right, sometimes people are just not at a place where they can truly hear you, even if you are being kind, and have a reasonable point.
And R, you do often over-analyze and pick apart threads, to the detriment of the interaction. I won't go back into a discussion of a thread that has been locked, but will say that you do *sometimes* (not always) over-complicate issues by nit picking them.
You once asked me to take re-read my messages and try to imagine how they might make others feel. You thought I might sound a little condescending. Well, I kindly conceded to you (I am not interested in creating negativity here) & did so. It made a difference.
Might I suggest you do the same in terms of the over-analyzing & picking apart of other's messages? When you do this, all perspective regarding the essential point of the person's message gets lost to you...
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topaz:
This is the same guest (I'll call myself topaz) as above.
Richard,
I found your story spiritual, beautiful, and also inspiring, as you intended it to be.
I am only sorry for the thoughtless and cold tone of remarks you received, mixed in with such a sacred topic to you...
Anyway, it didn't ruin the impact of the story for me...
Very sorry about your dog, but glad for the wonderful experience that you had, and how it helped you...
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: longtimelurker ---
Round and round the garden we go. Who will apply for the job of teddy bear?
--- End quote ---
I thought this line was so funny Longtimelurker. Whether you meant it to be funny or not, it was. Thanks for the laugh.
Now to everybody else, can I also say please, that I accept responsibility for where this thread is going. I feel very very uncomfortable that Rosencrnatz seems to have become the focus of a lot of, what reads to me, to be misdirected hostility.
I addressed a concern I had with RG. Some chose to ignore my comment, which I felt was mature and perfectly acceptable to me. Others posted their support for Dr G, and it was mature and acceptable. And some said I was wrong. That's fine, even the added criticisms don't bother me. I didn't and won't challenge any of you on your right to express your opinion about what me or what I posted.
But Rosencrantz defended me, and that was her right to express her opinion. That's okay isn't it, for her to defend me if she wants to feels she needs to? She said we shared some of the same opinions, and she was affirming that.
It seems to me that her style has come under attack here. And style is a very personal thing. I doesn't get much more personal than that. We really can cause tremendous damage when we mishandle people on this level.
If anyone uses this thread as an opportunity to bring out 'Old Axes' to grind against Rosencrantz or anyone else, does that really advance us at all here? This is a support board, isn't it? Rosencrantz supported me, so now I'm supporting her.
Some of you have strongly supported Dr G. And I'll say now, I am sorry for offending you and I also apologise to Dr G. if my post offended him.
The old voicelessness issues that we are all here dealing with here, do not license any of us to say hurtful things to each other or conduct callous in-depth post-mortoms on each other. If that's what I was doing with DR G, and I still can't se it, I apologise in advance of my seeing it.
Questioning each other is fine if it honestl and mixed with compassion. I try always to bear in mind that each of us found our way here because life has dealt us some pretty severe blows. It's so easy to be insensitive, I know. I can be extremely insensitive, usually with the wrong people. Was that you this time Dr G. I'm sorry. The people who I'm afraid of I find I'm automatically extremely sensitive with. I'm trying to grow and develop a compassionate listening voice here and at home and in the big wide world.
My aim here on this forum, besides learning from you all, is to be ever mindful that each and every one of you that I relate to and share with here, I have a duty of care to. I musn't, I can't, I won't abuse this intimate privilige that you have all given me. Especially when you're sharing here some of the deepest pains and secrets in your lives. And as a result of that I'm growing and healing. I owe you whatever amount of gentleness and compassion and I can manage. Life has already been way to hard for for you and me. I don't want to make it any harder for you.
Love to each an every one of you, and love and thanks to you Rosencrantz.
Guest.
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