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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2007, 08:37:52 PM »
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2007, 08:57:45 PM »
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I now know I dont need to beat the living crap out of my abusers, I do not need to confront them, I do not need to take back my power as I have already taken back my power and am channelling it into being a better person and a more productive member of society. So I must move on, use my anger as motivation, eventually forgive my abusers and be at peace once more. Amen to that.

Definitely Amen to that!
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2007, 10:22:20 PM »
James,

Are you there?

What got you going on confronting your abusers?  Maybe we can help.

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2007, 10:59:59 PM »
Ignoring them is a violent act, in their opinion.

Yep!  You've got that pegged, Lighter!  It makes doing violence against them so easy. :D

I agree with your philosophy 100%...It just isnt worth it to me anymore to confront.  I just do not want to be bothered.  When you have done it over and over again with miserable results, it's not worth doing any more.

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2007, 11:49:15 PM »
James,

I confronted my abuser, several times.  It never did anything except make me feel terrible.  Right now my mother has done the very thing I wanted to do.  She won't speak to me.  She wants nothing to do with me over something I never even said.  I can't say that I'm sorry.  she never has a kind word to say, not about my new house, or my kid or anything else.  When I've confronted her about how much she's hurt me, she turns it around and makes it so that I'm the one at fault.  She will never take the blame or credit for anything she's done to me.  My father is just as bad.  He's not an N, but he sides with my mom unfailingly.  Even when he knows she's wrong.

I'm done with confrontations.  I'm just going to fill my life with positive people and things, and if my parents don't like that, so be it.
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2007, 02:00:25 PM »
I'm glad you're smiling with happiness, Seastorm.  That makes me smile too.



CB..... I've always believed that withholding communication is the most violent thing we can do in a relationship.

With N's... it's taken to another level because it's their drug.  It's something they depend on.  It doesn't even matter what we're saying, they just want to keep doing what they do and see us jump around like little puppets on a string.

Their behavior and control over us is the string.   

I'm pretty sure I'm done bouncing for N's benefit.

The fact that it actually causes him discfomort, like my truth and confrontation never could, is enough to keep diriving me ahead with NC rule. 

That's the only thing I have to make him feel pain?  That's what I'll do and the grandest side affect may be that he replaces me quickly and leaves me alone for good. 

What a world I've found myself in.  ::shaking head::

I will say this..... I spoke to him over a week ago and I shouldn't have.  I knew I shouldn't have.  I did.

I forgive myself.  I broke the NC rule and understand more fully WHY I must have it in place.  What I did get to say, I wish I could take back.  It was honest so he found it cruel but damnit... I got to say my truth and he cried and I play it back in my head sometimes. 

I needed to say those things and I did.  James, you may need to say some things FOR YOURSELF, to your N.  Just don't get the idea they'll hear a word or process it or it will get in and make sense to them. 

It won't. 

They already have their version of reality and you're just a little puppet jumping about on as string... a prop in their play that stars them as the only REAL PEOPLE. 

They won't get it.  They won't register the awful things they've done.  They don't want to get it and they won't.  If you speak to them, SAY THE THINGS THAT YOU MUST GET OFF YOUR CHEST and say them FOR YOURSELF.  Just to send them out into the universe. 

You're N won't hear it and if they do it's only to turn it around and accuse you of the things they do and cause confusion and doubt where you should have only clarity and resolution for yourself. 

It's never ever a satisfying conversation with an N. 

I got satisfaction out of speaking my truth but I don't for one second think that my N understood a word I said.  It's like he speaks another language, it's like speaking with an emotionally retarted child when I talk about my feelings.  He's very bright physically and in business.  In personal, he's an idiot and I don't mean that in a mean way.  I mean..... really and truly..... he can't do any better and it's not personl. 

HE CAN'T DO ANY BETTER bc he's broken and can't be fixed.  I get that now.  I don't get satisfaction out of driving my head into that brick wall, never did. 

Well..... maybe just a little that last conversation because of one point in particular.  It's done now.  I hope I can stay strong and keep to the (NC) code.  ARRRRGH! 


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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2007, 02:55:27 PM »
Hey guys thanks for all your advice and support it helps me greatly. Sea Storm sometimes I just feel the desire to **** these guys up from time to time as old rage surfaces and dissipates into the ether, i understand it and control it but that doesnt stop the need/desire for it so I thought talking about it and taking on other viewpoints would be a good idea for me and anyone else who may be experiencing similar issues.

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2007, 04:44:02 PM »
CB,
Yes yes yes I recognize that!
I can't imagine how stuck and trapped you felt. Your bravery amazes me.
What a long road you've walked. I know those "rules", those parlysing rules.

My mother's talking AT me was absolutely incessant. It nearly drove me mad.

James,
Wise James. Of course.
You're doing healthy stuff, boyo.
So proud of you!

love you both,
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2007, 05:11:54 PM »
My N isn't an ignorer.... he just keeps turning things on their heads till you can't see straight. 

He accuses me of doing EXACTLY what he's doing and won't shut up until I pass out.  He goes on and on and on and on about things he's lying about.  Bald faced, tear stained scary assed believable lie after lie after lie after lie.

It's nauseating, truly. 

I don't want to hear them any more. 


I also wanted him to know that I know he's still lyinh.


 I wanted him to know that he'll never ever everevereverever.....


ever ever.......





ever........


cheat......



on.....



me......









again.

Now all I have to do is stay away from him and be happy with out children.  ::nodding::



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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2007, 05:57:33 PM »
Hi James,

I understand that anger and the desire to extract vengence. Those scum sucking, bottom feeding, potlickers. As a matter of fact they are simpering, disgusting, hateful putrid soul sucking morons who should have their asses kicked and have three flat tires per week.

Also, I would enjoy imagining a fire hose attached to their mailbox and making soggy toilet paper of their laminated floor. I would like to put fibre glass in their underwear so that  they are always in itchy underwear. Talking does no good to these friggin right lobe challenged psychos with no capacity for empathy or conscience.

James can you think of further punishment for these dog breathed (sorry dogs)
inadequate abusive violators of everything that is good and decent?
I am soooo enjoying this. It is safe here to do this venting. I am laughing.

We can't change those ...... but maybe helping people who have been abused is some kind of rediemption.

Love,
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2007, 08:26:18 PM »
Ah, now, here ye go... some nice Irish curses to round off the tune!

http://web.ncf.ca/bj333/HomePage.curses.html

http://www.corsinet.com/trivia/irish_curses.html

Edit in: actually, sea storm, yours are better. Even more inventive and amusing.

;-).
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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2007, 02:25:52 PM »
Hey guys thanks for your support, love the cursing too  :P  Cursing someone isnt really being forgiving but hey it feels darn good!  :lol:

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2007, 01:17:58 AM »
When its time to forgive then it happens. Give it over to God. I think it comes in a way that we could never have forseen. Until then some of those Irish Curses are quite satisfying.  May your teapot leak etc.
Who cares about THEM dear James.  You are the lovely guy who is worth so much more than them.

As for the anger. I don't know what to do with it either.Sometimes  I notice that an hour goes by without thinking about the abuse and that is progress.

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2007, 02:15:21 AM »
Lighter,

I had a cry baby as well.  Did yours carry a toilet roll to mop up his crocodile tears.

BEWARE OF MEN CARRYING TOILET ROLLS.

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Re: Confrontating an Abuser
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2007, 12:24:28 PM »
CB

Just remembered one time we had guests, his inlaws, a most unusual occurence and he complained about the fact that they used so much toilet paper.... I definetly need Freud to figure this one out.  Maybe the toilet roll represented me... he did not want anyone else to have the use of me so that he had all the opportunities in the world to wipe his snotty nose on me.  UGH!

Whatyatink of my theory?????????? Oh and he always bought cheap toilet paper El Cheapo Creepo
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