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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2007, 02:13:35 PM »
well last night was not my usual worship & a quiet date night.
I went to ex's party for his family visitors.

He asked me to invite a bunch of people, everyone seemed to have a good time except his sister and daughter were a bit anti-social, didn't seem that interested in meeting people or talking.
I thought they were just jet-lagged maybe, but I ended up staying and being hostess then clearing up as ex got drunk whilst they took to their beds after a couple of hours!
Still, it was a good party, our parties always are.

They wanted to go to Sunday brunch this morning so I got up, missed church, came over.
Ex was hungover, couldn't come!
Took them to brunch and it was quite nice, they seem a bit uncomfortable with new stuff/ new places but everything was fine until they started talking about religion.

Then they did that passive-aggressive thing our families always do when they aren't really interested, it was just a wanting to dump something toxic for a while, I was telling them about some studying I did last year and they got up and went to the restroom, made it perfectly clear the discussion was over- which for them was saying that religion and church is all a load of cr*p!

I felt like I'd just been dumped on. Which I had. At best they were rude, but actually what upset me was to be encouraged to talk about something which was clearly important to me just so they could dismiss it out of hand.

Fortunately ex arrived then to take them to baseball.

So I'm going to spend the rest of Sunday trying to relax and stop thinking about what a toxic time I am having in my spiritual life lately.

They said that people in church rant that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is wrong...then that's exactly what they did, and I guess that's something else they can disapprove of ( and mock ) now, my faith.

My head feels like it will explode.

WRITE

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2007, 02:15:10 PM »
ps it does make me see my american friends and surrogate family ina  new light though, I often have complained that things are so superficial here; but none of them would have done that passive-aggressive piece on me!

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2007, 03:28:24 PM »
Dear Write,

Seems to me mocking others is done because of insecurity, mocking all comes down to people are hurting inside .
Sounds like you had more than one person doing this.The trick is to see this in the moment and not take it personally.
This is hard to do not easy at all .

Spirit, beauty and G-D are always inside you no matter whether the circumstances are difficult or not.
Your kindness is your strength.I do not know about you being "dumped on" as you are not responsible for other peoples reactions to any given topic.
Write it seems to me you are always living in spirit of kindness and goodness always reaching for the light and it is there within you at all times.

I just believe you can get past this type of mocking and  the remedy is just not to take it personally.
But being human it is just not easy it sort of is done with a lot of kindness and no judgment ...............................

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Write)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

So much love to you

moon

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2007, 04:14:22 PM »
Dear Write,
You go girl :lol:... Dating yourself is such a wonderful experience. Getting to know yourself and what you like and what you want to do and actually enjoying your own company. Bravo :lol: for you for realizing you are worthy and entitled to love, happiness and joy and giving it to yourself. l have been dating myself and have been becoming more healthy, whole and balanced. At first I was terrified that I was always going to be without a man, but hey, for now this is exactly where God wants me to be, He wants me all to himself  so I can learn self love and to believe that I deserve, love, happiness, joy and fun. I was so busy my whole life taking care of everyone else's feelings and needs, that now it is my time to shine. Don't get me wrong I loved  raising my children and taking care of them, I can say it was the best time of my life, but they are 18 and 20 now and don't need me the way that they did when they were younger.  I can't help think that everything does happen at precisely the right time in our lives, even though the pain and heartache of that experience would like to tell us otherwise.    So Write, wine and dine to your hearts content, I raise my glass to you, cheers my friend.
Love Tweety

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2007, 07:45:41 PM »
the remedy is just not to take it personally.

thanks Moon, I'm not there yet.

It's opening an old wound to have family who are not interested in you still no matter what you do!

Actually I will back off, from everyone I think.
I was tons happier spiritually before I started trying to share my beliefs, I will revert to my old position of refusing to discuss religion. Maybe add politics too.

People don't generally care to understand, half of them believe they must convert, the rest seem either bitter or disillisoned to the point of blindness.

I don't believe I should proselytise so maybe there just isn't anything else to say unless I am convinced of genuine interest/love.

I was so busy my whole life taking care of everyone else's feelings and needs, that now it is my time to shine. Don't get me wrong I loved  raising my children and taking care of them, I can say it was the best time of my life, but they are 18 and 20 now and don't need me the way that they did when they were younger.

yes I am happy when I have someone to take care of, but you are right, thanks Tweety, it's time for me.

Still not entirely comfortable with it though.

moonlight52

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2007, 10:15:43 PM »
Write ,
I know I am not there yet either.
For me it is that understanding of not taking things personally that helps.
Heck I understand the mixed feelings and the ups and downs.
I have been experiancing much less fear........ that has gotten a lot better.

Also I enjoy my 2 daughters and they are doing well.College for one and for the other first year of high school.
I do not share my spiritual beliefs with everyone at this point either.

It is time for you Write that's for sure!!!!!!
Love

moon

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2007, 11:57:28 PM »
Wow Write:

That made me tired just reading about all that entertaining of ex in laws. 

I doubt I'll be able to speak to mine, unfortunately. 

You're a trooper and I salute you.  ::wondering what a boyscout salute looks like::

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2007, 07:01:55 PM »
Thanks Lighter, today was better but i am going to go have some down time on my own for a while now.

I'm really quite off at the moment aren't I, it's only when I realise how exhausted and emotional I am feeling I start to notice this illness and sometimes that can be too late.... Need to pay more attention I guess.

I do not share my spiritual beliefs with everyone at this point either.

I agree Moon.

Maybe I need to drop religion altogether, it's turning into a source of stress. It's too hard right now to keep everything together.

Maybe I am meant to be alone in this as in the rest of my life.


WRITE

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2007, 07:05:18 PM »
ps

gave notice on apartment today. Told staff about neighbour problem and they weren't really interested in helping, the manager and her assistant both answered phones during talking to me and then the manager shut her door and said 'I have to send an email'!

Not sure what to do next, guess I'll look at some houses and apartment communities.

More stress no doubt...

 :(

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2007, 07:21:15 PM »
awwwww Write:

I'd have to hibernate for 2 days to get over what you've just been through. 

If you have some illness issues coming up, nows not the time to go signing leases, IMO. 

Take time off and recharge.

This is a rhetorical question.... but what plan do you have in place for getting yourself back on track with the illness?  I have an old board buddy who's husband had bi polar and he had a written plan and everyone knew what to do when things started going a bit off so everyone could correct and help him handle it. 

Not sure I said that right but, who helps Write IRL?  How do you handle the BPD proactively? 


Your statements..... "Maybe I need to drop religion altogether, it's turning into a source of stress. It's too hard right now to keep everything together. Maybe I am meant to be alone in this as in the rest of my life." 

Give me pause and I want to stop and acknowledge you're feeling down.  How do you stop that cycle, ((Write))?



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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2007, 07:21:36 PM »
(((((((((Write))))))))))))

I'm sorry you're having a hard time and feeling so unsupported.
Rough week for your T to be away.

You sound really lonely. Is there a 3-D support group or therapy group you could tap into?
There will be times like this, hon, and you deserve not to suffer through them alone.

I know your beautiful balance will not desert you. It's just weathering a bout.

I think you can't expect too much about religion. People are very bruised and defensive,
and one person's bliss is another's phobia. Most folks find it hard to hear that intimate and
intense passion...

Doesn't make you wrong, or them.... You're just way more ept, verbally, communicationally (new word)
and they felt, I think, inept to respond appropriately. For some people, talking in a heartfelt way about
religion is though someone's suddenly sharing details of their sex life.

I don't feel like that, but I know folks who do.

It's all just language. Not judgment, not a measure of your worth....

love
Hops
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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2007, 07:51:21 PM »
Dear Write,

I'm finding that it takes a good long while to un-learn religion and all the human-devised notions attached to it... in whatever form it presents itself. That's difficult enough one-on-one (self to self, you know)... but when all that is stripped away, there's Jesus... and what He says to me is, "keep it simple, sweetheart".

Bunches of love to you, dear Write,
Hope

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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2007, 07:57:36 PM »



WRITE,

I haven't read your thread, but I said to myself, A Saturday night date with myself!  What a clever idea.  You are so innovative.  My date may not happen on a Saturday night, but I'm going to have one regularly, because of you.  A toast to you, WRITE!

tt


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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2007, 10:45:32 PM »
I'd have to hibernate for 2 days to get over what you've just been through. 

it does feel like lots of little things going wrong lately....when I got home there was a notice from the apartment community, if I was staying they are raising the rent! and the COBRA forms arrived and it's going to be $470 not $400.

I bumped into one of the ladies from the concert the other night ( I think I told you they were too mean to let son and I sit with them, good church people that they are! ) She said 'did you go to the concert?'
I was talking to her there!

what plan do you have in place for getting yourself back on track with the illness?

I have a care plan which has evolved over a few years.

It's not as easy as just take/go/do this though Lighter, it's a delicate balance this illness and one of the reasons people have so much chaos with it is they experiment so much with trying to cure the symptoms. I decided with the psych doc a few months ago to continue as long as I can bear it as I am, the last time I hit the meds it gained me 60 lb and took a year to get well again. I slept for months, would just take son to school then go to bed until it was time to go get him. I have to be more functional than that financially now, but also- life wasn't worth living. I was a walking zombie.

How do you handle the BPD proactively? 

this is as good as it gets dear! By managing the moods and accepting the pain and minimising stress and maximising self-care.

You should see how it can be....my new psych prof doc says I am managing it as well as is possible, he thinks I should take 'breaks' with diazepam though, because it's so hard to cope with mood swings unmedicated.

I'll go back and see him in the fall, it is $300 a time though so I can't go often.

How do you stop that cycle,

I have decided no more trying to settle at churches. I will flit around like I did before and just sing sometimes. No sermons, no Sunday School and any sexism/racism/intolerance I shall get up and leave. I don't have the spare resources to challenge it all but I certainly won't be part of it. That's my tiny protest!!!

Most folks find it hard to hear that intimate and
intense passion...


people crack me up Hops.
they can be so passionate about nothign and when it really doesn't matter and then when it's life or death....

I dropped a card into church today for a woman who was beaten badly during a robbery a few days ago. I asked about her and the woman on the desk said 'oh she's a good Christian woman, she'll be okay!'
I thought how callous/casual but it's just typically sugar-coating life, people don't want to accept reality so they pretend the bad doesn't happen.
Which means they don't know how to respond or deal with it.
I wonder if the church will provide her with actual practical support, I do hope so.
I see an awful lot of rhetoric and praying and talking and not a lot of social action or personal interaction at that church....which is how i got involved in the damn first place- helping someone through a crisis!

I don't regret that of course, though it does make me raise eyebrows that these things are so often taken for granted and the recipients don't reciprocate.

But I just can't go and pay my ten per cent and turn a blind eye to things I can't stomach and treat it like a social club; in fact that is why the people are so depressed there I think, it is out-of-balance.

Religion isn't just ranting and taking care of ourselves or it shouldn't be.
I'm done with it, I need a new version of Christianity based on Christ's actual teachings and that is where I am sticking, as CH says, even if I end up a church of one.

My faith has seen me through so much, I'm not about to become a hypocrite and adopt someone else's just to belong now!

Wow I feel so strong writing that, like I just found my balance spiritually again.
I've been twisting myself in knots over this for weeks.

And church guy too- I really liked him and that incident where he didn't bring me water when he brought everyone else soda really upset me, we haven't been the same since, and I don't think we will keep in touch somehow.

How can that be, such strong attraction and feelings and then it doesn't mean anything?

You are so innovative.

you are very kind Teartracks, and I hear this a lot that I think creatively; but that's just the up-side of being bipolar and also of having not had much choice.

It's been sink or swim, right now I'm like one of those bouys: half-submerged all the time, sometimes a bigger wave crashes me under, but basically floating- yes, in a random manner, but still bobbing around!

Thanks for your love and support.

I will keep trying and never give up....things will never be perfect for me or even good all the time, but I'll wait for the next time of peace and maybe appreciate it more since I have had to wait.

Night & G_d bless!

~W



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Re: Saturday night date with myself!
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2007, 11:07:06 PM »
Dear WRITE,

I have been gone for a couple of weeks and have not kept up with the board, plus I am too tired to read back but none-the-less I wanted to respond to your last post (without knowing much of what you are responding to.) 

I hear by your description that you are going through struggling times again. (So familiar to us all.)  But I hear so much more.  I hear a true strength in your words.  I hear disappointment in the way people, church is or can be but not resignation, instead I hear a deep, profound understanding as though you have tuned into a frequency of Truth that will guide you out of the pain though not necessarily out of the struggle.

I think you are moving into a richer consciousness and that while the struggles continue you or on the verge of finding life easier. You appear to be on the precipice of wisdom and I have to believe that that will bring good rewards and some true comfort.

I'm routing for you and admiring you from afar.

Your Friend,

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