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Ishana:
Hi everyone,

I watched The Swan last night too...but felt kinda weird watching it too...like I'm supporting something I don't believe in.

The part of the show I like the best is when they show the "before" pictures.  Thats what normal women look like.  I like them better before they're all "perfect."  I like them better looking real because their bodies reflect their personalities, not some "ideal" image of what a woman is supposed to look like.  It also bothers me that its not structured so that the woman comes to the doctor asking for a particular procedure...it bothers me that they are being submissive to the will of the "program" and the "professionals" about what is best for them.

I like the idea of people getting help...looking the best they can and getting therapy for their "issues."  The usual things...a hair cut, clothes that suit their body type, diet and exercise seem like expressions of a healthy self-esteem.  But I think all the cosmetic surgery is ridiculous.  They even cut up a woman's calves/ankles.  What in the world is wrong with having "thick" ankles?  And what will happen to these women when they get old...will that affect their self-worth?  

It makes me sad that our society is so focused on outward appearances.

Ishana

Dawning:
P, I'm going to reply to your questions later tonight.  Just a bit of time now but wanted to ask why is this show called The Swan?  Is it only about woman having plastic surgery?  Also, gather that it is *reality* tv.  scary.

~Dawning

mrt:
Thanks Seeker, You are always encouraging. I appreciate it more than you know.  

Ishana, You brought up a point that I hadn't thought about. These women are being submissive to these egomaniacs. Who are these doctors to define beauty? They did a nose job on one lady that's nose looked just fine to me. Some of their so-called improvements like fake breasts are ludicrous for sure.

 Dawning - I guess the show is called the Swan because of the story of the ugly duckling who turned into a beautiful swan.

 What this show misses about the story, is that the Swan was a "swan" to begin with. She survived the toxicity of her "family" to grow up and become a beautiful Swan despite them.
The swan was just hanging around a bunch of "N" toxic ducks!

The story isn't about taking an ugly duck and carving her up until she looked like the N ducks' IDEAL of a perfect duck, Which is the real premise of this (as you said) *reality* show.

Hey, we could use this analogy on ourselves. Everyone here is a swan learning to be a swan,  and not a nasty self possessed duck trying to fit into a mold we don't belong in.  

Dawning, re: Is it only about woman having plastic surgery?  No, they also get "therapy" and they have to lose weight, and exercise.

They took 16 women. 2 each week. Had them prostitute their bodies - in other words Carved 'em up according to what the doctors felt they needed done  - to comform to the doctors own sense of asthetics.  The two get judged on how successful the doctors work took, also how well the 2 behaved and how much they adhered to the program. They pick a winner and send the other back home into the family that made them so miserable to begin with.
They will then take the 8 winners and I'm not clear yet, but have some sort of beauty contest and the winner will take home cash and prizes?

As Ishana said "what will happen to these women when they get old...will that affect their self-worth?"  Really, what is their self-worth based upon? A house of cards for sure.  I would like to add  - what happens when the surgery needs a touch up? We are talking major bucks here. Will they be able to afford it - how will they feel if they become ugly again or have an aspect of the surgery that doesn't look quite right after time has passed?  

Go to http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/ and see the effects of aging on plastic surgery and some people that don't know how to stop the carving.

Dawning:

--- Quote ---What this show misses about the story, is that the Swan was a "swan" to begin with. She survived the toxicity of her "family" to grow up and become a beautiful Swan despite them.
The swan was just hanging around a bunch of "N" toxic ducks!
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Yeah, that is what was circling around in my mind too.  Pretty ironic title, eh?


--- Quote ---Hey, we could use this analogy on ourselves. Everyone here is a swan learning to be a swan
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Amen to that!

 :D  Dawning

Wildflower:

--- Quote ---Everyone here is a swan learning to be a swan, and not a nasty self possessed duck trying to fit into a mold we don't belong in.  
--- End quote ---


Wow, mrtraced. What a beautiful (and dead-on) thing to say!!  


--- Quote ---They will then take the 8 winners and I'm not clear yet, but have some sort of beauty contest and the winner will take home cash and prizes?
--- End quote ---


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!! When are these "reality" shows going to STOP!?!?! Beauty contest? As if they don't feel inadequate enough already?

Thanks for sharing your stuff about your family, by the way. And vent away. I can't get over the fact that your dad is a minister - who says all that crap. How does he treat the members of his congregation??!? Outrageous  :evil:  .

Wildflower

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