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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2280 on: March 28, 2011, 05:58:31 PM »
Awww... Hops... you know what was behind my tenatious practice - practice - practice don't you?
Revenge, pure & simple. Being able to say in my own head - HA! Take that mom... you couldn't have made THAT. That's all it was. And perhaps the lack of a vengeful motive these days is why I'm so procrastinatory about starting new projects, you know?

AND... Bonesie just gave herself away (my lips are sealed tho - one artist for another)... I ran across these crocheted reefs a year or so ago, with MIL on a tip and link from one of her nieces. Absolutely boggles my mind and activates some obscure pleasure center in my brain to see something so "homely" as crochet mixed with, homogenized with, science. That is a rare talent, Bones... and I'm in awe!!
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« Reply #2281 on: March 28, 2011, 06:20:34 PM »
Awww... Hops... you know what was behind my tenatious practice - practice - practice don't you?
Revenge, pure & simple. Being able to say in my own head - HA! Take that mom... you couldn't have made THAT. That's all it was. And perhaps the lack of a vengeful motive these days is why I'm so procrastinatory about starting new projects, you know?

AND... Bonesie just gave herself away (my lips are sealed tho - one artist for another)... I ran across these crocheted reefs a year or so ago, with MIL on a tip and link from one of her nieces. Absolutely boggles my mind and activates some obscure pleasure center in my brain to see something so "homely" as crochet mixed with, homogenized with, science. That is a rare talent, Bones... and I'm in awe!!

Thanks, P.R.

The Smithsonian Project was fun to do.  It's scheduled to close on April 24th and I hate to see it go.  When I first started working on the Project, I was doing it in memory of my Dad, who used to work for the Smithsonian years and years ago.  Imagine the goosebumps I experienced when I learned that the Exhibit was being erected in the area where his office used to be!!!!   :shock:

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« Reply #2282 on: March 28, 2011, 10:19:45 PM »
that is just amazing, Bones...and beautiful:
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I was doing it in memory of my Dad, who used to work for the Smithsonian years and years ago.  Imagine the goosebumps I experienced when I learned that the Exhibit was being erected in the area where his office used to be!

Were you able to get your part of the parabolic reef actually joined to others? Not that I understand how the Smithsonian thing totally worked, but was the work of your hands actually made part of it, I hope?

You know, it was really, really, really nice to think of a man who worked at the Smithsonian having brought into this world our quirky, brave and beautiful Bones.

Thanks for sharing that glimpse of him.

You DID have a parent you can hold some love for, huh.

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« Reply #2283 on: March 28, 2011, 11:14:37 PM »
that is just amazing, Bones...and beautiful:
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I was doing it in memory of my Dad, who used to work for the Smithsonian years and years ago.  Imagine the goosebumps I experienced when I learned that the Exhibit was being erected in the area where his office used to be!

Were you able to get your part of the parabolic reef actually joined to others? Not that I understand how the Smithsonian thing totally worked, but was the work of your hands actually made part of it, I hope?

You know, it was really, really, really nice to think of a man who worked at the Smithsonian having brought into this world our quirky, brave and beautiful Bones.

Thanks for sharing that glimpse of him.

You DID have a parent you can hold some love for, huh.

Hops

Thanks, Hops!

My work is included in the Exhibit.  The first time I went to go see it, I was playing "Where's Waldo" and managed to spot them!  That was a LOT of FUN to do!  I like to believe that my Dad, in the Spirit World, is saying:  Good job!"

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« Reply #2284 on: March 29, 2011, 01:51:04 AM »
I saw photos of the Smithsonian Hyperbolic reef displays. They are so large with so many pieces and contributions. Fiber arts somehow strike me as being the most eccentric of all the artists because it's like taking a grandma thing and going bonkers with it. You have to have a sense of humor to be a fiber artist.

These things are really beautiful, I find myself getting all serious and asking why? WHY? And then I just smile and know that my inner child would approve.

This led me to see some blown-glass jelly-fish chandeliers that are so wonderful, I would get some IF I was in the market for art.

I would like to be in a room that had a whole bunch of jellyfish lamps hanging from the ceiling at night. I love artists, it's like they are always making new doorways into and out of the world.

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« Reply #2285 on: March 29, 2011, 07:15:33 AM »
I saw photos of the Smithsonian Hyperbolic reef displays. They are so large with so many pieces and contributions. Fiber arts somehow strike me as being the most eccentric of all the artists because it's like taking a grandma thing and going bonkers with it. You have to have a sense of humor to be a fiber artist.

These things are really beautiful, I find myself getting all serious and asking why? WHY? And then I just smile and know that my inner child would approve.

This led me to see some blown-glass jelly-fish chandeliers that are so wonderful, I would get some IF I was in the market for art.

I would like to be in a room that had a whole bunch of jellyfish lamps hanging from the ceiling at night. I love artists, it's like they are always making new doorways into and out of the world.



Thanks, BTR!

Believe it or not, there are over 4,000 crocheted pieces, created by about 800 people, in the Exhibit.  The youngest crocheter was only three years old and the oldest was 101!

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2286 on: March 30, 2011, 12:40:03 AM »
I never looked at these very close before, I thought I've seen it all because I knit, then I looked closer and there is a lot of form variation.

Reef pictures:

http://www.treehugger.com/hypercolic-coral-crochet-reef.jpg

I like this one up above because the stalks on the coral "trees" or sea-fan thingys give them more structure and makes them sculptural.

http://moblog.net/media/b/r/o/bronxelf/crocheted-coral-reef-part-1-3.jpg

The round egg shape things in this one look like sea sponges.

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/21.jpg

This one is fun!

This one also:
http://reefbuilders.com/files/2010/03/crochet-reef-hyperbolic.jpg

These red branch coral parts remind me of Ikebana:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_O0IpfEr7zoY/SfXwstFUoqI/AAAAAAAAAB0/HG4tx_Xh1T8/s320/coral-reef+set+(2).jpg


Isn't it a conundrum that women use sheep hair and petrol products to make "fake" endangered coral reefs? That is some deep art installation. I like it.

Did anyone crochet a giant clam at the Smithsonian or sea horses or crabs or such?

I like the giant clam idea, I'm a slow knitter though, it would take me a long time.

In the end of you get hungry there is this   :http://www.patriciawaller.com/images/hummer1.jpg
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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2287 on: March 30, 2011, 09:04:27 AM »
I never looked at these very close before, I thought I've seen it all because I knit, then I looked closer and there is a lot of form variation.

Reef pictures:

http://www.treehugger.com/hypercolic-coral-crochet-reef.jpg

I like this one up above because the stalks on the coral "trees" or sea-fan thingys give them more structure and makes them sculptural.

http://moblog.net/media/b/r/o/bronxelf/crocheted-coral-reef-part-1-3.jpg

The round egg shape things in this one look like sea sponges.

http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/21.jpg

This one is fun!

This one also:
http://reefbuilders.com/files/2010/03/crochet-reef-hyperbolic.jpg

These red branch coral parts remind me of Ikebana:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_O0IpfEr7zoY/SfXwstFUoqI/AAAAAAAAAB0/HG4tx_Xh1T8/s320/coral-reef+set+(2).jpg


Isn't it a conundrum that women use sheep hair and petrol products to make "fake" endangered coral reefs? That is some deep art installation. I like it.

Did anyone crochet a giant clam at the Smithsonian or sea horses or crabs or such?

I like the giant clam idea, I'm a slow knitter though, it would take me a long time.

In the end of you get hungry there is this:  http://www.patriciawaller.com/images/hummer1.jpg

The crocheted lobster, with crocheted lemon, cucumber and egg slices, on crocheted lettuce on a crocheted platter is CUTE!!!!  That took a LOT of work and it looked like it was FUN to do!

There are at least a couple of crocheted giant clams in the Smithsonian Exhibit.  There are other clams, crocheted in pink, with fake pearls in them, that were created by breast cancer survivors in honor of and/or in memory of others who were felled by this disease.  A lot of heart and soul went into this.

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2288 on: March 31, 2011, 07:02:55 AM »
I have a question that I have been trying to figure out.

I'm on a committee, in my community, that has been tasked with getting certain things done.  I've observed another member of this committee has been volunteering for EVERYTHING under the sun, in the city we live in, but when it comes time to ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING...she NEVER HAS THE TIME.  As a result, what she has committed to do simply doesn't get done.  I'm trying to wrap my brain around the question of:  "WHY does she keep doing this???????????????"   :?

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2289 on: March 31, 2011, 06:49:07 PM »
That's an odd one Bones...it's not like she can't say 'no' is it, if she's volunteering...I have no idea why someone would do this! :?

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« Reply #2290 on: March 31, 2011, 07:35:35 PM »
That's an odd one Bones...it's not like she can't say 'no' is it, if she's volunteering...I have no idea why someone would do this! :?

It's very frustrating, especially when one of the things she volunteered for was assisting me with organizing an activity and I got left holding the bag because she would either (a) say she would call me and then not follow through with the phone call, (b) tell me she would meet with me at a certain time on a certain day and then no-show, and (c) complain about being requested to attend a meeting about the task at hand.  HELLO?!?!?!?!?   :?

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« Reply #2291 on: April 01, 2011, 05:39:24 AM »
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« Reply #2292 on: April 01, 2011, 09:22:30 AM »
I wonder if she has problems with impulsivity...
Like, maybe she gets emotionally excited about the idea of "doing good" and/or wants the brief burst of good feeling she gets from saying (imagining) she will, but actually lacks the good discipline to follow through.

Not to the degree of the lady you describe, but I've been guilty of that now and then.

I'm sorry she left you hanging, Bones. Next time, maybe you can simply say, I want to know whether or not this is a serious commitment because if it's not, I would prefer not to be involved.

(I have a friend who's very kind but VERY unreliable. Organizing him to mow the lawn and actually git 'er done is exhausting...though he needs the work. But when he DOES do the work, it's impeccable.)

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2293 on: April 01, 2011, 09:30:15 AM »
I wonder if she has problems with impulsivity...
Like, maybe she gets emotionally excited about the idea of "doing good" and/or wants the brief burst of good feeling she gets from saying (imagining) she will, but actually lacks the good discipline to follow through.

Not to the degree of the lady you describe, but I've been guilty of that now and then.

I'm sorry she left you hanging, Bones. Next time, maybe you can simply say, I want to know whether or not this is a serious commitment because if it's not, I would prefer not to be involved.

(I have a friend who's very kind but VERY unreliable. Organizing him to mow the lawn and actually git 'er done is exhausting...though he needs the work. But when he DOES do the work, it's impeccable.)

Hops

It's hard to say.  The fact that she always volunteers for stuff IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE might be a factor.

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2294 on: April 01, 2011, 09:40:43 PM »
I am SO ANGRY AND UPSET right now!!!!

I just learned that Mr. Idiot's mother died three months ago and, for him, it's no big deal!   :P

To give a bit of background....when Mr. Idiot and I first got together, he told me that his father took him away from his mother when he was a newborn.  His father knew where his mother was and seemed to get enjoyment about tormenting him about it.  (This makes me wonder if Mr. Idiot's father was actually an N.)  When Mr. Idiot graduated from high school, he tried to find his mother but was unsuccessful.  I took what little information he had, did my own search, and was able to locate her in another state...in a nursing home.  I got the phone number and called the nursing home to inquire about her.  Much to my surprise and delight, they put her on the phone and that's when I learned that she had been trying to find him all these years!!!

Four months later, for Christmas, he and I flew to where she was living and surprised her with a reunion.  (He tried to delay with the usual excuses of "getting round to it later" and I told him she may not have that kind of time.  Besides, this was a Christmas present FOR HER!!!!)  At first, she was puzzled when we first walked into her room and, when I spoke, she recognized my voice and realized that the man with me was her son!  The way her face lit up was amazing!!!  I gave them both privacy so they could talk without me being intrusive.

From that point on, I kept encouraging him to maintain contact with her and, at least, build some sort of relationship with her.  As usual, he kept giving me the "I'll get round to it later" routine.  When I asked if he had discussed with her about arrangements for him to be notified when something happens to her, again I got:  "get round to it later".  Bottom line...he DID NOTHING and SQUANDERED whatever time he could have had with his mother because he didn't see any urgency...always the same excuse of "I'll get round to it later...."

She died January 2nd and we just found out today after I nagged him, for the upteenth time, to at least give her a call.  His emotional response to her death is a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISCONNECT, like a houseplant died or something!  I don't understand how he can be so uncaring!

I want to bitch-slap him SO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  DAMN IT!!!!!!   :twisted:

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