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Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
Twoapenny:
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--- Quote from: Twoapenny on May 10, 2018, 10:30:24 AM ---Ah, Bones, there is nothing more frustrating than people not reading what's in front of them, especially when you've put it all out there so clearly! And when people say things like "well copies only cost x" - it's your time and expertise that counts not sticking something in a photocopier! Some people are just cheeky.
I'm sorry about your eye; I am so squeemish when it comes to eye balls that the thought of any kind of surgery makes my toes curl! I hope it wasn't too painful; is that the kind they do to correct sight or is it more to do with cataracts? I hope whatever it was for it has helped and not held you back too much since xx
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Thanks, Tupp!
I get so aggravated when I put in a lot of work into a contract to make sure all the "i's" are dotted, all the "t's" are crossed, with everything clearly spelled out to ensure a meeting of the minds only to have the client not bother to read any of it along with comments starting with: "But I assumed....blah, blah, blah!" I HATE THAT CRAP!!!! I've encountered some idiots who tried to insist they shouldn't be held accountable to a contract they SIGNED simply because they didn't bother to read it BEFORE SIGNING IT!!! I recall watching Judge Judy, on television, ripping a defendant a new A$$HOLE when they tried that defense! It was NOT pretty! The defendant was ordered to PAY for the work that was done according to the terms of the contract that they signed!
The eye surgery involved using a laser because the doctor discovered that my retina had torn and bled. That was kinda-sorta an emergency to prevent my retina from detaching completely. Not fun either way and I had no choice.
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And the !@#$#@% AGGRAVATION is BACK AGAIN because the client DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!
The contract CLEARLY states that the retainer I charge covers the first hour of researching. After the first hour, then the rate switches over to $21.00 an hour while researching. The client's request turned out to have an unexpected complication which added on to my research time to get it resolved. I send the client my invoice for services rendered, charging her for THREE HOURS of researching PLUS the cost of copying over 100 pages, and she responds: "Why can't you just subtract your retainer from what you sent me?"
!@##@!@#!#%#%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh, Bones, what is wrong with people?! And a hundred pages of information, that's a huge amount of work that you've put in for her! I don't get what some people are like; I'd be embarrassed to ask for what is effectively a discount? Surely the fact they're not doing the work themselves shows the value of it, or they'd just do it without getting anyone involved. These people are not good for blood pressure! Is your retina still healing up okay?
The weather is still crazy here as well. Yesterday morning it was so windy and chilly out I had to go and put a jumper on. We went out in the afternoon and it got so hot we were both stripped down to vest tops and sweaty :) It felt like we'd moved to a different country over the lunch hour, very weird.
Those kitties were so cute but I haven't seen them again so I don't know if they were just visiting or perhaps had wandered a bit further from home than usual. Our downstairs neighbours have separated and the lady moved out, leaving their six cats with the man, as they didn't think it was fair to split them up. I was working near the window last night and I heard her come to visit them and bless her, she was crying because she misses them so much. They're lovely cats and I agree with them, it's not fair to split the pack as they've all been together for so long (over ten years, I think). But it was sad to hear her upset, I'm sure the cats miss her as well. One of them is funny, he sits on the shed roof looking out over the neighbouring garden and when he sees another cat in it he puts his paw up as if he's waving at them :) xx
BonesMS:
--- Quote from: Twoapenny on June 15, 2018, 02:25:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: BonesMS on June 12, 2018, 03:09:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: BonesMS on May 10, 2018, 11:19:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Twoapenny on May 10, 2018, 10:30:24 AM ---Ah, Bones, there is nothing more frustrating than people not reading what's in front of them, especially when you've put it all out there so clearly! And when people say things like "well copies only cost x" - it's your time and expertise that counts not sticking something in a photocopier! Some people are just cheeky.
I'm sorry about your eye; I am so squeemish when it comes to eye balls that the thought of any kind of surgery makes my toes curl! I hope it wasn't too painful; is that the kind they do to correct sight or is it more to do with cataracts? I hope whatever it was for it has helped and not held you back too much since xx
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Thanks, Tupp!
I get so aggravated when I put in a lot of work into a contract to make sure all the "i's" are dotted, all the "t's" are crossed, with everything clearly spelled out to ensure a meeting of the minds only to have the client not bother to read any of it along with comments starting with: "But I assumed....blah, blah, blah!" I HATE THAT CRAP!!!! I've encountered some idiots who tried to insist they shouldn't be held accountable to a contract they SIGNED simply because they didn't bother to read it BEFORE SIGNING IT!!! I recall watching Judge Judy, on television, ripping a defendant a new A$$HOLE when they tried that defense! It was NOT pretty! The defendant was ordered to PAY for the work that was done according to the terms of the contract that they signed!
The eye surgery involved using a laser because the doctor discovered that my retina had torn and bled. That was kinda-sorta an emergency to prevent my retina from detaching completely. Not fun either way and I had no choice.
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And the !@#$#@% AGGRAVATION is BACK AGAIN because the client DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!
The contract CLEARLY states that the retainer I charge covers the first hour of researching. After the first hour, then the rate switches over to $21.00 an hour while researching. The client's request turned out to have an unexpected complication which added on to my research time to get it resolved. I send the client my invoice for services rendered, charging her for THREE HOURS of researching PLUS the cost of copying over 100 pages, and she responds: "Why can't you just subtract your retainer from what you sent me?"
!@##@!@#!#%#%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh, Bones, what is wrong with people?! And a hundred pages of information, that's a huge amount of work that you've put in for her! I don't get what some people are like; I'd be embarrassed to ask for what is effectively a discount? Surely the fact they're not doing the work themselves shows the value of it, or they'd just do it without getting anyone involved. These people are not good for blood pressure! Is your retina still healing up okay?
The weather is still crazy here as well. Yesterday morning it was so windy and chilly out I had to go and put a jumper on. We went out in the afternoon and it got so hot we were both stripped down to vest tops and sweaty :) It felt like we'd moved to a different country over the lunch hour, very weird.
Those kitties were so cute but I haven't seen them again so I don't know if they were just visiting or perhaps had wandered a bit further from home than usual. Our downstairs neighbours have separated and the lady moved out, leaving their six cats with the man, as they didn't think it was fair to split them up. I was working near the window last night and I heard her come to visit them and bless her, she was crying because she misses them so much. They're lovely cats and I agree with them, it's not fair to split the pack as they've all been together for so long (over ten years, I think). But it was sad to hear her upset, I'm sure the cats miss her as well. One of them is funny, he sits on the shed roof looking out over the neighbouring garden and when he sees another cat in it he puts his paw up as if he's waving at them :) xx
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Thanks, Tupp! I've lost count of the number of idiots I've encountered who seem to think that "Freelance = Free Work" and try to finagle all kinds of creative ways to not pay. It's AGGRAVATING!!!! I have another follow up appointment with the eye doctor next week to see how the surgical site is healing. The weather here is kinda crazy sometimes so I never know how to dress...hot, cold, hot, cold....UGH!
A cat that waves to visitors.....that is CUTE and FUNNY!!!! LOL!!!
Twoapenny:
I think a lot of people are just on the make these days. Part of the problem (here in the UK, anyway) is a lot of big companies will haggle, reduce prices, give out freebies and so on, just to shut people up quickly. It's created a lot of blaggers. But obviously for small businesses or independent freelancers every penny is your livelihood and I don't think people realise they're actually paying for your time, experience, knowledge and so on, not some big faceless warehouse that's owned by a large corporate. I'm glad you stood your ground and I hope your eye appointment goes well.
The waving cat is so cute! I've tried to video him doing it but I've not been quick enough to catch it. He's so funny. I was talking to a lady in the park yesterday and she was telling me that their cat walks to school with the kids in the morning and then finds his own way home again, apparently he's a bit of a local celebrity! Ours brought in a mouse last night and I found it this morning with its head chewed off; there are some aspects of cats that aren't quite so lovely! Lol xx
BonesMS:
--- Quote from: Twoapenny on June 16, 2018, 04:54:52 AM ---I think a lot of people are just on the make these days. Part of the problem (here in the UK, anyway) is a lot of big companies will haggle, reduce prices, give out freebies and so on, just to shut people up quickly. It's created a lot of blaggers. But obviously for small businesses or independent freelancers every penny is your livelihood and I don't think people realise they're actually paying for your time, experience, knowledge and so on, not some big faceless warehouse that's owned by a large corporate. I'm glad you stood your ground and I hope your eye appointment goes well.
The waving cat is so cute! I've tried to video him doing it but I've not been quick enough to catch it. He's so funny. I was talking to a lady in the park yesterday and she was telling me that their cat walks to school with the kids in the morning and then finds his own way home again, apparently he's a bit of a local celebrity! Ours brought in a mouse last night and I found it this morning with its head chewed off; there are some aspects of cats that aren't quite so lovely! Lol xx
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Thanks, Tupp!
I had one idiot literally scream at me: "Your fees are too high!" and tried to act as if I'm greedy. I responded with what expenses those fees cover, (1) the commute to the National Archives, (2) copying the documents the idiot wanted, (3) snail-mailing said documents that are usually LEGAL-SIZE 8.5 inches by 14 inches, (4) cost of Internet access, (5) post office box rental as where I live has rules against running a business using your home address, (6) computer and printer costs, (7) electricity to be able to use the computer, printer and Internet.... by this point, the idiot is apologizing profusely and promises he won't bother me again. SMDH!
Regarding the cat leaving his catch where you found it...I've heard of cats doing that as a way of showing their love and affection to their humans. Unpleasant, yes. At the same time, Cat Gotta Cat. (I often wonder about cat psychology and what goes on inside their furry little heads.) They can be cute and funny and other times they can be just EW!!!!
BonesMS:
--- Quote from: BonesMS on June 12, 2018, 03:09:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: BonesMS on May 10, 2018, 11:19:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Twoapenny on May 10, 2018, 10:30:24 AM ---Ah, Bones, there is nothing more frustrating than people not reading what's in front of them, especially when you've put it all out there so clearly! And when people say things like "well copies only cost x" - it's your time and expertise that counts not sticking something in a photocopier! Some people are just cheeky.
I'm sorry about your eye; I am so squeemish when it comes to eye balls that the thought of any kind of surgery makes my toes curl! I hope it wasn't too painful; is that the kind they do to correct sight or is it more to do with cataracts? I hope whatever it was for it has helped and not held you back too much since xx
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Thanks, Tupp!
I get so aggravated when I put in a lot of work into a contract to make sure all the "i's" are dotted, all the "t's" are crossed, with everything clearly spelled out to ensure a meeting of the minds only to have the client not bother to read any of it along with comments starting with: "But I assumed....blah, blah, blah!" I HATE THAT CRAP!!!! I've encountered some idiots who tried to insist they shouldn't be held accountable to a contract they SIGNED simply because they didn't bother to read it BEFORE SIGNING IT!!! I recall watching Judge Judy, on television, ripping a defendant a new A$$HOLE when they tried that defense! It was NOT pretty! The defendant was ordered to PAY for the work that was done according to the terms of the contract that they signed!
The eye surgery involved using a laser because the doctor discovered that my retina had torn and bled. That was kinda-sorta an emergency to prevent my retina from detaching completely. Not fun either way and I had no choice.
--- End quote ---
And the !@#$#@% AGGRAVATION is BACK AGAIN because the client DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ THE CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!
The contract CLEARLY states that the retainer I charge covers the first hour of researching. After the first hour, then the rate switches over to $21.00 an hour while researching. The client's request turned out to have an unexpected complication which added on to my research time to get it resolved. I send the client my invoice for services rendered, charging her for THREE HOURS of researching PLUS the cost of copying over 100 pages, and she responds: "Why can't you just subtract your retainer from what you sent me?"
!@##@!@#!#%#%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To add to this....
The National Archives charges different fees for their copies depending on what and where it is located in the building.
For example, if the documents are stored on the second floor of the building, (which has high security), they charge 25 cents per page on their copy machines; if the documents are on microfilm, they charge 40 cents per page. If the client wants several pages of both microfilm copies AND copies of the documents on the second floor.....yeah, that adds up quickly!!!! That doesn't include the cost of using their computers and printers to print out copies of documents off of their website so the combined costs is $1.00 per page.
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