Can't understand what they say? Read this!

[visitor]

Here's another one you might find interesting, also copied from another board.


TRANSLATION GUIDE

“You’re the only woman I’m interested in.”
TRANSLATION: I've got lots of targets on my list, but you’re convenient, and you should feel grateful.



“If I had only found you before. Why wait? Let's get married now. We're meant to be."
TRANSLATION: Marry me fast! I’m getting tired of keeping up this false act.

“You’re smart, sexy, caring, loving”
TRANSLATION: Talk is cheap baby. Here, gnaw these bones I toss while I shaft you. Just don't do anything to upset me.

“You need to make a commitment to US"
TRANSLATION : You have to sacrifice yourself for ME, then I can be US.

“I’m different, I'm under pressure, and you have to walk further...put up with a bit more.....but I promise you I’m worth the extra effort and the rewards will be there eventually.”
TRANSLATION : I can’t tell you I’m a seriously screwed-up person and you’re going to suffer cause you’re gullible enough to buy this BS.

“We have something, and you and I both know it. But I can tell you this, I don't like the idea that you would be kissin and sexin other men when you should be here with me.”
TRANSLATION: I’ll use sex to manipulate you. I enjoy using you. I enjoy thinking what a LOVER I am. You’re my toy. Don’t share with other guys. Besides, if I terrorize you and demand you be faithful you won’t know there’s better guys out there. And, of course, I’ll have all the women I can get my hands on.

“Hey baby I haven’t seen you in a while, wanna catch a movie Saturday?”
TRANSLATION: I enjoyed treating you bad and seeing you suffer. I’m a little low on getting my attention fix now and it’s been 6 months so I’ll act like nothing has happened and you’ll come waltzing back.

"I am still yours in my mind and my sweetie better find its way home SOON!!”
TRANSLATION : YOU ARE MINE!!! OBEY!!!

“I love you.”
TRANSLATION: I don’t know what love is, but apparently, it's what I have to be saying to you if I want to continue (ab)using and tormenting you.

“Something you said this afternoon made more sense than anything I’ve heard before.”
TRANSLATION: If I say this you’ll think I’m finally ‘getting it’.

“When I'm bad you get nothing, absolutely nothing”
TRANSLATION - When my mask comes off you'll finally see how egotistical and hateful I really am.

"I'm not a material person, I believe in the sanctity and commitment of marriage."
TRANSLATION: I'll get everything I want, when I want it. If you want something it better be for me.

“You deserve far, far better. You're the kindest most warm person I have ever met and I know that you'd do anything for me.”
TRANSLATION: I should have employed more subtle tactics. You were right up at the top in terms of quality NS, you gave in so easily.



“The thing that hurts me most is that you feel that I have been faking.  Nothing could be further from the truth.”
TRANSLATION: You’re catching on now. How dare you rip my mask off!

“C’mon sweetie, it’ll be fun, everybody’s into this. Just lemme tie one wrist, OK?”
TRANSLATION: I need to beat you senseless to get my rocks off.

“I really hope you find someone who deserves your love.  That person was never going to be me.”
TRANSLATION: I'm sort of realizing that maybe, just maybe, you're cutting off my N-supply. Here, let me plant these poisonous words in your head, just in case I try to tap your source later on when I'm in a dry spell.

“I want to say I'm sorry for all the hurt I've caused.”
TRANSLATION: Saying sorry is easy, see? I can do it too! I don't want to damage my supply source too much, I went overboard this time. Keep those illusions alive baby so the doors will open for me and I can feed off of you even more. You know, that's the game I play. I got some great NS from you, You can't imagine how hard the withdrawal symptoms are.

"I always tell the truth, but other people don't live by my standards."
TRANSLATION: Every word I say is a lie, and you'll find that out the hard way.

“I promise never to hurt you again. I know it only brings pain."
TRANSLATION: I bet I only have to say this one more time and you’ll crack and take me back and I can begin the games again. I know I treated you real bad and if you come back for more, I’ll know I’m special.”

[Anonymous]

I see this was posted a nearly a week ago. I didn't respond because personally, I found it trite, half-baked and senseless for any self-respecting female to bother with. You hear this type of jazz on cheap sitcoms. Nothing to enlightening here. But it's been a while, and I discovered I did have something to say. hahahahah. not voiceless on this topic.

Plus I don't like other people translating english for me. Plus I don't like being told by just anyone what to read. I'm noticing that's happened a bit lately. Posts titled "Read this and that." How pretentious and arrogant.

And besides, I don't take reading assignments from just any old yobbo who thinks their man-hating hang-ups apply to every female. I'm definitely not a man-hater. 2 of my best friends are men, and hey, I even have some gay friends who are some the greatest people I know.

Men are just as misunderstood as women most of the time. Men tend to express their frustations and voicelessness differently. And ignorance, fear, insecurity and paranoia can lead some men to do some pretty stupid, dumb, ridiculous, obvious cruel things. And I know that the same goes for us women. We're not superior.

For example, to prove my point, how many of us post here, not because of our fathers, but because of our mothers and grandmothers. Women ruin just as many childhoods as men do.

I don't treat or ever intend to treat men like they're inferior, with greater inadequacies, and tar them all with the same sorry brush, like you're doing. I don't have a problem with treating men as equals. And let each one I know rise or fall on their own merits. I'll judge them by how they treat me and others. If you, whoever you are, think that all men are like your list, you're wrong. So totally and completely dead wrong. It's kinda' sad that you write of half the population the way you do.

Mentally and emotionally I'm shielding my son's eyes and ears from those (your) hate-filled comments. They are so negative and demeaning to whole male gender.

If you want my advice????

Here's a reading assignment for you. Read things other than women's magazines and Cosmo. Start reading bio's about famous past and present explorers, scientists, doctors, philosophers, missionaries, civil rights leaders. You'll find some hundreds and even thousands of inspiring men are alive today, and millions have lived in the past.

Can I take a guess off the top of my head. You have a problem. I'd say the problem is in you, and you prove it to me by your post. You're telling me here about the type men you are attracted to. Because these are obviously the only types of men you have experienced. Very small case trial to base your conclusions and results on. YYUUUCCKK!!!

I'm sorry, but I'd see a mental health professional about it if I was you. There are wonderful men out there. You just don't know how to recognise them. I'd say you're the unfortunate type who can't recognise a nice one. They don't flip your buttons. (Gotta question the quality of the buttons then.)

By your tone, you remind me of a girl I worked with a few years ago. She thought she was gorgeous, sexy and smart too. She wasn't!!! You wanna' know why??? She kept repeating the same mistakes, and picking the same types of men over and over. And she was sooooo arrogant. You couldn't tell her anything. She was the expert. And SHE (the great SHE) was gonna change them, and bring them to heel. hahahahaha
What a joke.

There was a lovely guy working there who was sweet on her, and he wasn't that great looking, but he was warm and smart and funny and ambitious and responsible. But he wasn't tall enough for her. She used to bag him out, and make terrible jokes about him, and how she wouldn't be seen dead with him. He was a brilliant catch as it turned out.

I think I said I don't accept reading assignments, especially from someone with an obvious problem, and Ive noticed a few reading assignments have been handed out here lately. Hey, whoever posted this, here's an idea. Why don't you find find a new topic. Get off the man-bashing, you haven't said anything of interest so far. Hey, why not post something challenging and educational for me to read, instead of all this crap you've been dishing out. Or here's a novel idea.

Why don't you post something about real 'voicelessness' issues, instead of this male-bashing bullshit you seem to be hung up on. I also noted the self-complementary bit. I nearly chucked when I read the smart, sexy caring bit. Sounds sooooooooooo familiar.    

And hey, I don't know who you're taking about. Once again, your attraction to the wrong types is obvious. I've got a set of feather hand-cuffs and they're a whole lot off fun. hahahahahah

CG

[Anonymous]

What is with this hateful, personal attack?  The first sentence was "Here's another one you might find interesting, also copied from another board." This is hardly a "reading assignment".

[Anonymous]

I agree with Guest. Nobody HAS to read anything that's posted here, last I noticed,  it's all voluntary.

Also, I don't understand CG why you are taking this to be a man-bashing thing.  Most of the statements could be made by a man or a woman.  

And,as far as the statement that this has nothing to do with voicelessness, I especially disagree and on more than one count.  

First, many of us that are voiceless are that way BECAUSE of the dishonest , convoluted way we were communicated with as children.  Until we DO learn to TRANSLATE, we will make the same choices, often to our detriment.

And the second is, by stating that this didn't merit posting, CG seems like she is trying to "make" Visitor voiceless.  

And I also agree with Guest that this was "hate-filled."  One can disagree and express that without insulting and bullying.  We ALL have a voice here, but NOT at the expense of others.  

Gingerpeach

[visitor]

Well, I can see the point you all are making.  And you are right, it is rather male-bashing in tone, and I certainly DON'T want to imply that only men can be abusive.  And I don't personally find it offensive, although if you do, I apologize.  It was actually meant to be kind of ironic, I think. At least that's the way I took it.  But I am not a man, so perhaps some of you guys are really upset by it - if so I am very sorry!

And I certainly didn't write it myself - I saw it on another board and thought that people here might find it interesting or relevant - as well as amusing.  Like a lot of stuff on the net, it may be better to take it with a grain of salt!

[Anonymous]

I agree with Guest. Nobody HAS to read anything that's posted here, last I noticed,  it's all voluntary.

That's exactly right.     And nobody has to be silent on anything they don't agree with either.    So gingerpeach, fire away. I don't mind, do you?  

Also, I don't understand CG why you are taking this to be a man-bashing thing.  Most of the statements could be made by a man or a woman.  

You sure don't understand me, obviously!!

And,as far as the statement that this has nothing to do with voicelessness, I especially disagree and on more than one count.  

Do I hear the sound of water of stone, and an old axe being ready for sharpening?? hahahahahahahahah Never mind, !!whatever    

First, many of us that are voiceless are that way BECAUSE of the dishonest , convoluted way we were communicated with as children.  Until we DO learn to TRANSLATE, we will make the same choices, often to our detriment.

Yeah well, you learn to translate your way, and I'll take responsibility for and translate my way.      Is that okay with you? Personally I chose to ignore spoon-fed block-headed one-sided narrow translations that draw long inconsistant bows to cause me not to learn to think for myself. hahahahahah That was what I lived with my whole childhood, which by the way, was how I got to be confused in the first place. Now I chose/work out my own translations,
thanks for asking????  
 

And the second is, by stating that this didn't merit posting, CG seems like she is trying to "make" Visitor voiceless.  

Look ginger peach, you've seem to have taken my comments very personally. It seems that way to me anyway. And so I'm sorry you've taken exceptions to these comments of mine. But hey, at least I didn't ignore the post.      And surely anyone who wants to post someone elses words wouldn't take it too personally.

And I also agree with Guest that this was "hate-filled."  One can disagree and express that without insulting and bullying.  We ALL have a voice here, but NOT at the expense of others.  

Did that feel good?? Hate-filled, insulting and bullying?? Um, have to look into that?? Is this how I've been with you? If so, I don't remember.  

Oh well, surely the poster didn't post just to get agreement only. Is that what this foum is for. The "We'll agree with you". YYEEEAAAAH!! Surely all opinions are allowed, not just 'agreeing' ones.

And surely if a poster sounds like an idiot, and makes you angry, it's okay to express that. Or are you sayng it's not??

Are you saying that I can only express things that affirm others?

Well, by that standard, gingerpeach, you didn't do a very good job of  affirming me, now did you?? Or affirming my right to read or comment on whatever I want to.  Or my right to translate what I read, as to how it affected me.

Hey, hahahahahaha, isn't this a a 'PUBLIC FORUM', or did I forget something.

I suppose you and the poster are the only one with that right to express how a post affected you, and what you think of the poster as a result, after all.    What a double-standard and a joke, or maybe not. Maybe it's a single-standard.  hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah.

CG

[DiveDiveDive!]

Whoa!   Someone needs a juicebox and nap!!  

[Portia]

Darn, I wasn't going to post today!! Haven't even read the most recent posts yet but just had to post right now and say....Go CG go!

Yeah, when I arrived here the board was a bit of a soothing, stroking kinda place. Wasn't a lot of conflict and it seemed all rather adult and knowledgeable. But heck, 'healing' isn't always like that. Sometimes it's shouting, screaming, crying, howling, stamping feet and hey, occasionally a little N-ism creeps in and folk get really out of hand.

CG, I ignored this poster coz she posted in blue text   and I have a personal aversion to blue text. It's my thing, not necessarily logical, but it's mine.

Whatever. But I defend the right of anyone here to speak their mind - so long as they don't mind the backlash! Conflict is good - I learnt that right here, at the board's knee....just sit back in my rocking chair and remember the ol' days....best to everyone, as ever....P

[mika]

I don't agree with ever! who posted. This ACTUALLY sounds just like this man I was just dating. All of this wasn't true. I don't usually agree with other people translating things for me but, some of this sounded like some game I played also. So this is for, who it is for.

[Anonymous]

Visitor,

Your post was harmless enough. It's actually been posted here before some months ago. But it is kind of amusing. No big deal, I didn't see it as any kind of mandate. Blue doesn't bug me at all.

Is this a first time visit?

[Anonymous]

Hey Ginger Peach. It's been a while. Glad to see you are back (or just posting again if you've been lurking).

[Anonymous]

Geeze, what's going on here? May postings coming up in November. I thought this was a recent thread.  

[Anonymous]

Here's another one you might find interesting, also copied from another board.


TRANSLATION GUIDE

“You’re the only woman I’m interested in.”
TRANSLATION: I've got lots of targets on my list, but you’re convenient, and you should feel grateful.

“We have something, and you and I both know it. But I can tell you this, I don't like the idea that you would be kissin and sexin other men when you should be here with me.”
TRANSLATION: I’ll use sex to manipulate you. I enjoy using you. I enjoy thinking what a LOVER I am. You’re my toy. Don’t share with other guys. Besides, if I terrorize you and demand you be faithful you won’t know there’s better guys out there. And, of course, I’ll have all the women I can get my hands on.

“I love you.”
TRANSLATION: I don’t know what love is, but apparently, it's what I have to be saying to you if I want to continue (ab)using and tormenting you.

Maybe this isn't about men, like the other poster says. Maybe it's about lesbian relationships.  

[Anonymous]

Doesn't anyone get what's happening here? Some gutless guest people hold some very long silly smelly grudges.

[Anonymous]

Yes, you are correct. I wish I would have caught on earlier. Doh!