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Wildflower

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« on: May 04, 2004, 03:24:46 PM »
Does anyone else feel weird and suspicious when someone gives you a compliment?  It just dawned on me that…in the same way it made me really uncomfortable when my mom gave me a hug (once in a blue moon), it made me almost cringe when she gave me a compliment.  Because it wasn’t something I could … get attached to or believe in.  The compliment could be taken away at any moment in the form of an insult labeling me of exactly the opposite (you’re warm and caring….you’re unloving and spiteful).  It was safer to believe the opposite sometimes?  Prepare for the worst and not get my expectations too high?

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{EDIT: And just now this bubbled up...my Dad used to say this to me: "I see you being so warm and caring with others. Why can't you be that way with me?!"

And another time: "You always have crushes on my friends - I can tell. I want you to have a crush on me!" YUCK. Get it off!! }
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 06:28:28 PM »
Great thread Wildflower!  (opps!  another compliment!)

I have recently had a conversations about compliments with my therapist.  I told her that my H ALWAYS needs to be praised.
She suggested that maybe he should praise me.
I said, "I hate it!  I don't want to be praised!  It makes me cringe..."
I don't know why.  But I think you're on to something Wildflower.  Maybe it's because an N can't be trusted not to take it back in the form of something else. This makes a lot of sense.  
I have thought about it in the sense that when he compliments me, he is just creating or living a fantasy, and I am an object in his fantasy.  Or that somehow, this is about him.

Well, whatever it is, there is something about being complimented I just can't trust.  If non-Ns give me a compliment I might smile and say"thank you."  But I think ,"well, they don't really know me now, do they?"  or "Somehow, I've got them fooled."

It takes years of major reinforcement before I can believe something positive about myself, and significantly less criticism for me to question it.

Interested in others' experiences with this.

Peace, sjkravill

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2004, 06:55:12 PM »
When I get a compliment, I feel really happy. Then I nix that feeling immediately and think: "They don't really know." However, I have trained myself to accept the compliment graciously. It's rude to rebuff someone's attempt to be nice. When I compliment someone, I am hurt when they downplay it or even tell me I'm wrong.

In N homes, a compliment may well be a double-edged sword. Or the child becomes so unused to receiving them (my case), that compliments feel disloyal toward the messages I'm supposed to believe about myself.

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2004, 08:04:05 PM »
Thanks Wildflower...I think about this too.

I didn't feel comfortable receiving compliments because I grew up in a praise-deficient home.  Only recently have I started to receive compliments from my parents about things I care about.  And it makes me feel weird because a) I'm not used to it, b) it means I'm still susceptible to wanting their approval as well as cringing under the disapproval, and c) I'm finally starting to care more about what I think.

My response to other compliment givers is a simple thank you.  

I notice that other people struggle with compliments because
a) they are like me, see above
b) they feel they are NOT like me and do not need my approval, thank you
c) they feel they are NOT like me and wonder why I would compliment something they take for granted, etc.
d) I am invisible
e) they take it as a veiled put-down depending on how careful you are with your tone of voice and expression, which makes me feel pretty funky.

I only just caught onto b and e.  Still throws me a curve ball because I never mean to put anyone down or pull a power play with compliments.  Some think any compliment at any time is condescending.  I think this is quite sad that some cannot accept kindness at face value.  It used to offend me but now I understand a bit more where they are coming from and are protecting themselves.

One more thing: I live in a very multicultural area and have only recently learned that in some countries it is considered rude or off-putting to comment on other people's clothes, hair, etc. even if you like it!  Probably for the some of the reasons listed above...

Cheers, Seeker

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2004, 05:46:19 AM »
I suppose that's why it's so important to be genuine and consistant when praising our kids. They can learn to accept it graciously and not question it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2004, 06:27:19 AM »
Yes to all above. Seeker, yes especially to b) and e) too. I try to be gracious when receiving one but have had to train myself. Like “That’s a nice jacket” from a senior work colleague makes me think: ‘oh right, I usually don’t look so good so this is like telling me I need to smarten up’ but I just say thank you. It’s getting easier.

Oh and I never believe it when people talk up my obvious skills …. I expect they either want to use me, or they’re being condescending (like they think I don’t know what I’m good at really, even if I pretend not to know or hide it – my lack of self-esteem is my problem, so don’t expect you can trample all over it too! Does that make sense?).

And on this note, er…. yeowwww…thank you Seeker for what you said yesterday about me having earned my board stripes! Of course I went – owwwerrrr? – not yet please, I’m not worthy and heck, I might turn out to be something I don’t know I am yet. Treading carefully with myself, on my own eggshells. Just jumpy I guess.

About clothes, I had a female colleague who, whenever complimented on her clothes, would respond with “You like this? You want it? I’ll give it to you.”. I kinda liked this, it tests the person giving the compliment – are they sincere? Also are they coveting your item or are they admiring you wearing it? I tried this with mother ages ago. She said in the usual over-the-top way “Oh that’s a beau-ti-ful silk scarf, it must have been ver-y expensive.” I said no, it was from a junk shop and look at the holes in it. She says “oh that’s where the moths have eaten it over the years, it must be ve-ry go-oood silk.” I got fed up and took it off saying here, have it, if you like it so much, you have it. She was shocked and almost didn’t know what to do, but she took it anyway. Doubt she’s ever worn it, but it might have given her the message to keep her false compliments to herself.

I’ve just seen another compliment - may I use this thread to say thank you? It keeps the other thread clean and it’s more appropriate here and….it means one less post for my name! Okay (thanks Wildflower for the thread). Thank you to sjkravill who said:

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For what it's worth, I like hearing your voice.... Maybe we could both try to worry less about it..

What it’s worth? – your voice is worth a lot here sjkravill. And yes, maybe we should both not worry about posting too much, you especially, you don’t appear to me to be a rampant poster at all! No way, please post away - and even if you were a prolific poster, there’s no law against it, in fact some prolifics don’t half brighten the place up sometimes!  :D

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2004, 06:39:24 AM »
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Well, whatever it is, there is something about being complimented I just can't trust.  If non-Ns give me a compliment I might smile and say"thank you."  But I think ,"well, they don't really know me now, do they?"  or "Somehow, I've got them fooled."


This comment is so 'Imposter Syndrome" ish. I know I score a 20 out of 20 on one of the on-line tests. My H is flat out saying yes to 1. It's so weird, but rejecting or feeling uncomfortable when complimented is so often a sign.

CG

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2004, 07:25:10 AM »
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Does anyone else feel weird and suspicious when someone gives you a compliment?  


Yeah, I feel weird too. I have to fight these feelings or questions  that run through my mind whenever I'm complimented. I've matured a lot through the years and am learning to care less what people "mean" and just take the compliment and go with it.

These are examples of my thinking:

 + It's like what do you want?
 + What are you buttering me up for this time?
 + Why would You compliment me? -  Is there some character fault of  yours that would make you stoop so slow as to waste your time complimenting me on my inane performance?
  + Do you want something from me?
  + Do you have a grand plan and does it involve me and this is step 1?
  + Did you take a course on getting people to do what you want and I'm being practiced on? or targeted?
  + Oh I know that was a bunch of hooey, you were just trying to ingratiate yourself with the people that were standing around listening.
  + I would think to myself - oh are you one of them "lets bring sunshine to the world" kinds of people. You had to do it for yourself and it was just a big crock of sh**.
  +This person sees some character defect in me, and felt compelled to try to uplift me in some way  - as if their paltry compliment would be the trigger that would inspire me to seek greatness.

I guess I just suspected the person as having ulterior motives and didn't have enough confidence in my abilities.


As Bunny stated:  "When I compliment someone, I am hurt when they downplay it or even tell me I'm wrong."

I finally learned this lesson when I realized that I was being rude and insulting people just trying to spread a little cheer in the world and who were innocent.  I learned to say thanks - and not internalize it so much or be suspect.

Wildflower, What your dad said regarding the crush is a little creepy. GROSS!   ha (I was cringing for you.    ; )


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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2004, 09:38:10 AM »
Compliments have always been difficult for me.  I have always had a hard time giving them and taking them.  I have struggled with many of the same feelings that others have posted here.  When I give them I constantly worry that people are thinking I am just flattering them and therefore I spend much energy trying to make sure that I am not.  When someone gives me a compliment, I try to accept it with a "Thank You" but inside my head I am analyzing it immediately.  Was it just flattery or was it sincere?  I also immediately feel like now I have to live up to their grand expectations of me and often it changes how I feel and maybe act towards them.

Mostly, now, I try to push those thoughts out of my head and take it at face value.  Someone I respect very much once told me that I should always accept anything someone offers me graciously (unless of course that person has a spiritual disease ie. N), because I should respect and honor their effort in practicing love.  In many ways that has helped me because I feel like the compliment isn't just about me and my spirit.  It is also about the other person's spirit.

Thanks for listening,
Learning

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 11:12:19 AM »
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Great thread Wildflower! (opps! another compliment!)


 :lol:  :lol: I know.  I shoulda just posted a big sign saying "Warning.  Dangerous when complimented.  Say nice things at your own risk."  :wink:  :D Actually, I'm with many of you here in that I'm learning to accept/kinda internalize compliments, but I just realized I've a ways to go.  So as Portia said on her analyzing thread,

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Thank you for all the words above. I’m not ignoring them, I’m pondering them.


Seriously.  I had a post all ready last night and I was going to put it out this morning...and then I woke up to a bunch more insight from you guys.  Thank you :D :D

(((big hugs to all)))
Wildflower
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And if you want to be free, be free
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2004, 10:28:02 PM »
I wonder if there is a relationship between the received compliment and how much trust you have in the person giving it and in what situations the compliment is given?

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And just now this bubbled up...my Dad used to say this to me: "I see you being so warm and caring with others. Why can't you be that way with me?!"


Yet another example of parent-child reversal.   :x  
Dad is child and speaking in the voice of a 6 year old.   Is he single cos maybe we can fix him up with my mom?   :lol:  (just a little lightness here.  :) )  What your dad used to say to you is what my little child voice wanted to tell my mother - up until recently when I stopped taking her insults at me and compliments towards others personally.  It was another way of her isolating me so she could assume greater control and has nothing to do with trust.  The people who I trust, who I respect or who are professionals in a field I am involved in, can compliment me whenever they want to.... period.  

Interesting, Wildflower. But your dad sounds like he needed you to parent him as well as other things which I also cringed at. My mother also wanted my undivided attention - wanted me all to herself at her convenience and moved in on any of my friendships or crushes while not coming right out and telling me she wanted me to have a crush on her. But I felt the same message. Weird, weird, weird all the way around.  

YUCK, indeed!  

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2004, 12:25:45 AM »
Hi again Wildflower,

I just read your VCR story in P's thread (alot to ponder there) and understand that you dad is married.  So much for the idea I had of fixing him up with my mom.   :wink:  
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2004, 12:53:25 AM »
Hi Dawning,

Welcome back!  I hope you had a great weekend :D.

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I wonder if there is a relationship between the received compliment and how much trust you have in the person giving it and in what situations the compliment is given?


I think you may be on to something here.  I've been poking around the idea that it has to do with believing in myself enough to accept the compliments, too.  So, trust myself, trust others?  Trust myself to accept and feel good about this compliment and not become grandiose??? :?

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I just read your VCR story in P's thread (alot to ponder there) and understand that you dad is married. So much for the idea I had of fixing him up with my mom.


Yeah, he's married, but I keep rooting for my stepmom to divorce the guy.  So maybe we could introduce your mom to my dad?  Get them aquainted ... ready for the inevitable? :lol:

I keep hoping my stepmom will finally say ENOUGH.  Can you believe she actually attempted suicide in 2000 and ended up in the hospital for a couple of months - and underwent electroshock therapy??  Geez.  I didn't even know they still did that.  Would you believe my dad actually complained about how difficult it was for him during that time?  She was so forgetful after her shock treatments.  It was really maddening for him. :shock:  :evil:  :evil:

Then again, does your mom deserve it? :wink:   You read the VCR story :roll: .  I've got plenty others...

Wildflower
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2004, 01:24:26 AM »
Wildflower,

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So, trust myself, trust others? Trust myself to accept and feel good about this compliment and not become grandiose???
 


Trust yourself, absolutely. Trust others that you *can* trust. I don't think accepting a legitimate compliment would lead to grandiosity. Genuine (non-toxic) people like to give and receive compliments. It shows taking notice of something positive. Give and take. But to give a compliment, wanting something in return - yeah, I can smell that one right away. That is not real. That is not even a compliment. No need to accept that.

I wonder what two N's would be like together? What is the "inevitable?" Do tell.

Your stepmother sounds like she is coping to the extreme with his Nism.

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Would you believe my dad actually complained about how difficult it was for him during that time?



Yes, I sure do believe that. Me, Me, Me.


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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2004, 01:35:29 AM »
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I wonder what two N's would be like together? What is the "inevitable?" Do tell.


Black Hole City.  EVERYBODY STAND BACK!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Can you imagine?  Me, no Me, no Me, no Me.  An endless funnel of need... :roll:  :lol:

hugs,
Wildflower
If you want to sing out, sing out
And if you want to be free, be free
'Cause there's a million ways to be, you know that there are
-- Cat Stevens, from the movie Harold and Maude