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reallyME

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on Relationship Dynamics
« on: September 26, 2007, 03:43:18 PM »
Loosely translated/excerpted from: Narcissism and Intimacy; Love and Marriage in An Age of Confusion by Marion Solomon (copyright 1989)


The are two parts of intimate relationships.  Separateness and Autonomy and Fusion.  This means we want to be individual yet joined to another person.  It works great when these are in balance, but when they are not, there are problems.

There needs to be a focus on the "self" but also a recognition of another as a separate "self"...

A Pathology resutls when one person has all attention on their own needs, robbing from the mutualness and resulting in either isolation or a false-appearance of there being a relationship between two, that is actually focused only on one person.

A person who longs for a relationship with another person, yet has a tendency to not tolerate "otherness" in someone, never fully experiences life.  Many marriages end in divorce because this is the case...due to appearing successful, but  actually being empty and boring.

It is normal for each person in a relationship, to want to regress into a childlike state at times.  If both of the partners will meet those childish needs, a healthy balance will occur.  If it becomes overbalanced to one side, pathology and termination often result.

If a person has had past lack of ability in to provide for emotional needs of the other, and has a need to self-protect, this can cause small arguments between the people, which can result in emotional fragmenting, destruction and rage or withdrawl.

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~Laura

Ami

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 06:15:20 PM »
I love this, Laura. Thanks  for it.                                  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2007, 07:16:05 PM »

Taken from book mentioned in first post

SELF-OBJECTS

What this term means, is that every person has a relationship with another person, in order to decipher his/her internal experience of who he/she is...or one's "self"

The person going toward the self-object (mirror), expects affirmation, admiration, constant responsiveness, in order to let the other person have feelings of grandiosity or feelings of being admired and looked up to.  For some people it involves wanting to shine in the shadow of a famous person.  As long as the self-object continues to be close and constantly love and approve the needy person, all goes well and their needs are met.

 The problem is, when the other, begins to go in a different direction or pulls away.  If disappointment and defensiveness arises from this, there will be a quick disintegration of the relationsihp.


When a person desperately needs the other one, wanting to mold them into an extension of themselves, pathological results can happen.  There becomes a need to throw off boundaries, and yet a fear of not having any boundaries and losing the "self" in the other person at the same time.  One person feels estranged while the other feels smothered.  Sometimes these unresolved needs can cause ongoing issues in the relationship.









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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2007, 07:57:13 PM »
The above post sounds like the N mother-- too.                                                  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung