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Michelle:
This has turned into a very mind arousing thread.  I often think about whether or not my mom will go to Heaven.  I'm definitely no religious expert or scholar, but I have strong faith and belief in Jesus and God.  Right now I am a little concerned about my mom not going to heaven because I believe that the very least requirement to get there is to believe in Jesus and have a personal relationship with him.  I don't believe it has anything to do with how good we are - we could never be good enough to earn that reward.  However, through your relationship with Jesus I think there should be some obvious fruits - the desire to do good, please him, and just make the world a better place in general.  My mother shows nothing even remotely close to any of those.  That scares me to death.  As much as I *hate* her right now, I don't want her to go to hell.  I wouldn't wish that on anyone.  Anyway, just my 2 cents.  You guys have brought up some great points.  Thanks for making my brain churn after a day of toddler activities!   :wink:

Michelle

mighty mouse:
All,

Is NPD considered a mental illness? If so do the mentally ill go to heaven?

Some of the people who people call Ns have narcissistic tendencies and aren't full blown NPD. What about them?

MM

Anonymous:
I think heaven and hell are on earth. we have the choice depending on how we choose to live.

yuki:
Wow... what a topic!

I actually see Ns as victims. I mean, they're Ns because of what their parents did to them at such an early age and NPD is usually not curable, so they don't have much of a chance. I still hold them responsible for their actions of course... but I don't see them as being responsible for being N. But then, that could just be my way of dealing with my own feelings about my mom. A few years ago, I thought about the little girl that my mom was before she was a N, and decided that I could forgive HER and that I probably would have liked her too. So I don't really see Ns as deserving something bad after this lifetime...

I like more of the idea that we're here to learn a certain something in each lifetime. I don't think that Ns learn anything... so they fail their lesson.

Ellie:
Yuki,
I Love this:
"I like more of the idea that we're here to learn a certain something in each lifetime. I don't think that Ns learn anything... so they fail their lesson."

After being told all my life what a failure I was (not at all true!), it's so funny to think of my parents as failing something! Makes my day! Thanks you   :lol:

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