Author Topic: Kmmac's story  (Read 1046 times)

Leah

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Kmmac's story
« on: November 29, 2007, 07:40:38 AM »
Hello Kmmac,

with a very warm welcome.

Having read your life story, truly, you have my sincere empathy, for the similarity is startling.

With regard to your community position and aspirations, and the endeavours of your N with the tools of Sabotage and Crazymaking.

These are the tools that my N, my now exH, utilised in his work against me, along with projection and scapegoating.

At the time, I could not think clearly at all, due to being in shock, and in a perpetual state of foggymindedness.

The crazymaking with gaslighting works incredibly well in taking one out of the current picture.

All in all, one is left isolated, and yes, can understand perfectly the questioning of one's own (healthy) sanity.

But then, that's the ultimate goal of the N's purpose and plan.

As you say, modern technology is a wonderful resource --- without it, doubt very much that I would be free, as I am today.

For there was no-one out there who had so much a glimmer of knowledge and understanding. 

At times, trying to talk through what was happening to me was in effect giving the impression that there was something wrong with me!

Here, you will be able to share as you feel comfortable and freely receive; all important validation, support, experiential wisdom and insight, and understanding.

Thoughts of you.

Love, Leah

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Re: Kmmac's story
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 09:25:42 AM »
Dear Kmmac,
 I am so sorry for the pain you describe. It sounds "classic" for an N to say that they will try to "destroy" you. That is their "goodbye gift". Getting out of a relationship  with an N is not an "easy' thing.They don't just let you go with a nice "farewell".
  You are not sure about your own identity. That is a classic sign of an N relationship. You simply do not know who you are or what you feel --- other than  extreme pain.
 Keep writing. You--the real you--is still in there.               Love   Ami

(((((((((((((((Kmmac)))))))
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Kmmac's story (repost since I think I put it in the wrong place last time)
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 11:03:00 AM »
knmac: Question: Did anyone else, fresh from a break-up with an N feel that they may have been the N also, or too? Did you go through a 'mind shifting' experience upon breaking-up? And if so, how long did it take before you felt able to deal with the 'mind shifting'?

First, welcome to the board.  i'm glad you found us!  Prepare to be launched on an exciting journey of finding information, finding peace and most importantly finding your SELF!

My name is Laura and I want to answer your questions from my personal experience.

I did feel like I became a narcissist toward X after our relationship ended.  In fact, she even said to me, "who's the narcissist, Laura?  who has been pursuing and trying to take revenge on ME?"  By that time, after I realized what she had done to me, I was indeed out for "blood" figuratively.  I wanted to expose her and make her pay and make her SEE what she was doing to control, manipulate and ruin people, including me.  So, yes, I had to really look at what I had become, and I hated myself.

I did go through the mind-shifting experience too.  Even up till recently, I kept catching myself belittling people with mental or emotional challenges.  It's not that i despised them, but it was that I had come to see them as week and undeserving of my time or attention in any way, shape or form.  Now, I still do not spend long periods of time listening to people who have no intention of making changes, but I do not treat them or view them with as much contempt as I used to for a while after X left.

How long did it take to overcome the mind-shift on my end?  Well, X left in about 2004.  It is 2007 now...so approximately 3 years for me, although occasionally I still see those habits of X creeping back in to my mind, since I was trained under her ministry for 2 years...old habits do die hard, plus, a lot of what she taught me, worked and was factual.

~Laura

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suggestion on steps to help you heal/reclaim identity
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 11:20:28 AM »
Hi again, Kmmac.

After I posted my response, I realized that, although I shared my "don't worry, you are not in this alone" response, I sure didn't offer you any help in getting through this pain.

Here is what helped me...and i hope it's not going to offend since it is unsolicited advice on my end...I just really understand how painful the aftermath of N relationships can be and how hard it is to even WANT to get out of bed or function or exist after they get done with ya.

1.)  I literally had to decide to take one second, minute and then hour of a day at a time.  I would sit with a wrist watch and watch the second hand go around.  I would tell myself "ok, you haven't heard from X, you haven't gone online to talk to X, a minute has gone by, and you are OK.  You can get through the next minute.  Pretty soon, I was OK during an hour, then two, then 5, then a quarter of a day, then a half of a day.  Finally, I made it up till today and new things happened and new friends came along and I am still OK without X's phone calls, talks, messages, gifts, time, attention.  It takes TIME but you can do it too.

2.)  After I finally came to the place of being "OK" in my own skin without needing anything from X, I began journalling.  I took a page in a notebook and wrote the following into separate columns:

Thought    Feeling    When it occurred    What I wanted to do about it        What I did about it      How I feel now

I mean EVERY SINGLE TIME I had a thought or feeling about X, I'd chart it under each column.  Very soon afterward, I came to notice a pattern of certain times I felt certain things.  After I had a pattern of that, I began a DIVERSION.  Here is an example:

Thought- I want to call X
Feeling- I miss her sooooooooo bad I want to yell and scream and throw something
When it occured- 2:00
What I wanted to do abotu it- call her, duh!
What I did about it- went and read a book <------------diversion (can be taking a walk, reading, eating a carrot, whatever!)
How I feel now- frustrated but I made it!

Ok, now, the pattern I began to see was that, every day at 2PM I'd gotten used to talking with X for hours.  See, the neurons in our brains form little grooves from the habits we have.  Every day, my brain kicked in on "oh, time for X to call"  I had to literally write over that groove in that neuron and form a new habit (generally this takes 30 days but for me it was about 2 weeks or so).  It is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that if you can retrain your brain in this way, you can erase a faulty, unhealthy habit and develop a healthier new one.  This can work with smoking, drinking, swearing, etc.  It DOES work if you work it...and thankfully I did.

3.) Next, I began reading a book called THE LANGUAGE OF LETTING GO.  You see, narcissists generally prey upon vulnerable people.  I was not out looking for X at the time she decided to take me under her wing.  She was watching my tears from having been abandoned by person #1, and I was perfect prey for her to try to clone and fix.  As I read this book, I realized it was ok to not feel needy or needed as much.  There was a "safe" place inside me that worked in my favor.  It became ok to just "be" without having to "do."  Please, i urge you to read this book.

4.)  I did research...loooooooooooooooooooots of research, on NPD and other disorders, on demonic spirits, on abuse, control, manipulation.  I watched television shows that discussed topics of abuse, etc.  I did whatever I could to learn all that I could and never have to relive the nightmare of loving and losing an ILLUSION of who I thought someone was.

I leave you with this...the word DIS ILLUSION MENT

To me, that means breaking the false belief that someone was who they claimed to be and who you needed them to be.

 X had a front that she showed online and off to people of who she really believed she was.  When I saw through that front, X decided I was a threat, because, after all, without the pretend mask, who was she really?  Who are any of us, unless we are true to Creator, true to ourselves, and true to others.

NOBODY is worth losing YOURSELF for.  In the end, YOU are the one you end up with.

Hope that helps,

~Laura