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axa

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The scary future
« on: January 27, 2008, 12:09:48 PM »
I don't know if this is a consequence of having been controlled but I realise that I need to think about getting a job when I finish my course.  The thought of being tied to a 9-5 job fills me with huge anxiety.  I am terrified of being stuck somewhere, as if I would not have a choice of leaving.  Does anyone relate to this.  I wonder is it something about intimacy and commitment.  Working with the same people on a regular basis does create an intimacy and this makes me feel very uncomfortable.  I have worked for myself for a number of years in the past but found this difficult also.  Feel a bit of a mess at the moment..........

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 01:23:18 PM »
Aaahh, dear Axa:

Look.  What would YOU like to do, as in, if you could choose freely, what would you love to work at.  What would be an outlet for your talents?
(I wouldn't be keen either on the 9 to 5 scenario!).  Then again a 9 to 5 for just a short time, maybe, in order to get in the loop and maybe get information and make contacts.  After all (as we well know) nothing is written in stone..
Maybe a combination of sometimes working with people, and sometimes on your own.

Sometimes, just looking at the practicalities can steady the mind.   What are the opportunities? Locations? Could you/would you diversify into something different. 

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 05:38:29 PM »
Yes, life can be scary, but the scariness can be exhilarating, and propel one forward. 

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 09:07:18 PM »
Dear Axa,

This has been quite a struggle for me, as well, and I just know from experience that I absolutely must resolve to take one day at a time.  That way I can manage...

and I don't think this method necessarily prevents the setting of longer-range goals, either (although I have plenty of work to do in that regard)...

It is simply that, where my own areas of concern/worry/fear are involved (much as you've expressed), I deliberately choose to limit my scope of focus in order to work and function because it must be done, for this day alone.
Once that is settled, there's plenty of room in the daily schedule for enjoyment and appreciation of the smaller things!

Trouble is, as I am discovering... now I am not too sure what to do with myself when not working, on weekends!
Another challenge... lol... oy.

Carolyn

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 02:54:35 AM »
Dear Axa,

I always get nerves going through big life changes, and I believe it is natural. You never can tell what a new work environment will be like; its politics, your boss, your colleagues.

But Axa, you are an amazing, positive, and adaptable woman. Whatever the the future throws at you, I believe you will handle it.  You only have to take one step at a time. A lot of work environments are so great, and there will always be positives and lessons to be learned.

You will be ok Axa!

X bella




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Re: The scary future
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 12:03:48 PM »
Axa hon...
It's as though you don't yet know it's okay to anticipate pleasant surprises.

Nothing's ever perfect and everyone will endure moments of discomfort.
You can too and they can lessen as you become open to your own interpersonal competence.

It's okay to anticipate that people will be mostly good, and that you will be able to mostly maintain healthy boundaries.

(I just overspilled to a neighbor when my brother was here. In years past, I would've sunk into shame and terror and a feeling that I'm an out-of-control mess. This time, I thought, oh, I overspilled there didn't I -- I was having a rough day. Next step, forgave myself promptly. No shame.)

I know your future work, whatever it is, is going to have pleasant surprises and multiple changes to build your confidence in your competence.

Happiness is possible, even on a job.

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 12:58:48 PM »
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The thought of being tied to a 9-5 job fills me with huge anxiety.  I am terrified of being stuck somewhere, as if I would not have a choice of leaving.  Does anyone relate to this. 

Why yes and I've lived it, too.   But as I have been learning and you already suspect - that feeling of desperation is not what it appears to be on the surface but is about other things.  I was stuck in a job for 10 years and I am still stuck in the same job description, but not the same company.  It's led to so much learning and yet I still have days when I want to run screaming.  The discipline to stay, I find very hard.  And yet to stay, it is also about fear of going.   And yet look, I have stayed for 15 years.  I feel all complicated about it, and yet I have suspected for a long time that it is really very simple, but I haven't learned yet - and tip to other posters - don't try to explain my ignorance and the solution to me - I am also touchy about it.   :lol:

On the whole however, there are so many good things about work, even in a 9 to 5 environment.  For one thing, it reminds me that you have also been thinking about the meaning and role of self-discipline is in your life.  Doing the 9 to 5 is a practice and definitely cultivates self-discipline, and not in an odious or onerous way.    And yes we are free to stay or go but out feelings of not being free (and I regularly feel that way) are, well, opportunities for growth, alas.  But I suspect you will conquer those fears easily since you already have various work and life experiences under your belt.

It also builds practical confidence in the ability to survive and thrive in this material world.  It gives structure to days and the opportunity to learn new things and discover new skills in oneself.  There's socializing which is always practice in social skills and living in our truth with integrity on the day to day.  It gives us practice in managing, confronting and handling our own fears - though as I mentioned for me - fear is still the master in many ways.  Bleah. 

And there is always a spiritual aspect to work, practicing integrity of action while detaching from having expectations of the fruits of the actions - every day.  And I was just remembering my 90's work life fondly the other day and thinking how much I enjoyed it even though I didn't even realize it at the time and there were many things about it that would not seem enjoyable at all.   But as memories, it is lots of fun.  So I'm glad I did it.  And I wanted to rebel against it every single day.  But then I am positive your future job will be much nicer than my past one. 

This response is probably remiss in that I didn't bring up that there are huge parallels between my work life and my FOO role and issues - I bring that to my work life - this is probably the bottom line of the struggle.  Not sure if it is relevant to what your are contemplating.

I am here to listen.  I have lots of work and interview issues and areas of uuhh learning! 
Character, which has nothing to do with intellect or skill, can evolve only by increasing our capacity to love, and to become lovable. - Joan Grant

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 02:25:29 PM »
"It's okay to anticipate that people will be mostly good, and that you will be able to mostly maintain healthy boundaries." (Hopalong)

That is a great and positive outlook, Hops.

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 06:23:33 PM »
Hi,

Thank you so much for replying.  I am absolutely whacked at the moment.  Finishing another paper - the process was easier this time...........so far.  I want to give your posts the attention they deserve so will not send off a quick answer but will reflect on the much appreciated advice and comments.

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 07:46:28 PM »
((((((((((((Axa)))))))))))))

just a note to withdraw my previous comment re: not knowing what to do with myself when not working... lol.

Also wacked,
with love,
Carolyn

P.S. Congratulations on another nearly completed project!

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2008, 09:45:36 AM »
"Happiness is possible, even on a job."  Hopalong

Indeed, and why not.  Job satisfaction is so important.  Best of all is if one can work for oneself.  So many people have started up their own "work from home" business, or a small business of some kind.  And never looked back. 

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2008, 12:51:28 PM »
I don't know if this is a consequence of having been controlled but I realise that I need to think about getting a job when I finish my course.  The thought of being tied to a 9-5 job fills me with huge anxiety.  I am terrified of being stuck somewhere, as if I would not have a choice of leaving.  Does anyone relate to this.  I wonder is it something about intimacy and commitment.  Working with the same people on a regular basis does create an intimacy and this makes me feel very uncomfortable.  I have worked for myself for a number of years in the past but found this difficult also.  Feel a bit of a mess at the moment..........

Any suggestions

axa

I can relate since I have been in a mid life crisis semi retired mode for several years.  Previous jobs ended badly and for a long time even the thought of reentering the work force gave me a headache.  I believe work situations do reflect a lot of elements of the family.  Those of us from a dysfunctional background are going to carry over these issues to the job.   I seemed to be attracted like a magnet to work situations that were just as dysfunctional as the family, and then I got stuck.  For many years I was looking for a substitute for the parental validation I didn't get from the FOO, and I tried to get it from work.  A little work validation led me to some bad choices, then when the situation deteriorated, I didn't know how to get out.  It was the same process as the FOO played over and over like a loop tape.  I believe this understanding will help me in future work situations. 

One suggestion is to remind yourself you always can leave.  There is no law against "shopping" jobs and a lot of people do it.  I've seen people quit a job after a couple of days, (and I once did myself after an hour and a half)  You are only stuck if you make yourself stuck.   And once in a job that appears promising, realize discomfort is natural.  You can adjust to it and eventually come to enjoy the situation.  The inner work you have done can be an asset in the workplace. 

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2008, 03:21:00 PM »
Hermes,

I gues the truth is that I do not want a job at all....... I love studying and would like to just stick with it but need to make some money later this year to survive.  I think I will stay in this city after September, I like the buzz of the place and have made some friends.  My house is 300 miles away in the sticks and do not feel like going back there just yet.  Part of me is playing with the idea of doing a phd but getting funding could be a problem....... by the way the panic has passed, just like everything else, it passes!

tjr,

Thank you for your response.  I think I also have become involved in FOO type situations in the past within the work place.  I need to remember that I have moved on and have changed significantly in the past years.  I have also learned coping skills and developed boundaries which should help me cope with difficult situations when they present.

IPhi,

Issues of discipline arise for me and also commitment.. I go into child mode as if I am helpless and will be stuck without a way out.  I am reminded of my over responsibility, when I stay in situations because I don't want to be seen to be leaving someone down.  I know this seems a bit of a paradox, fear of commitment and fear of deserting...... I suppose what I comes between both of these is impotence.  i want to say words like... frozen, stuck, rigid.  Somehow as if a burden will be placed upon me and I will not be able to leave.  Interestingly enough, the thought of being happy in a job had not occurred to me until this moment.  The old black and white thinking is rearing its ugly head again.  I am learning that how you do something is by doing it........ I am trying to be a little less introspective and a bit more action orientated.  My experience is the latter makes life more enjoyable.........took me a long long time to figure this one out.

Shunned,

my gut says intimacy.  I don't think I do intimacy very well.  I withdraw and isolate myself easily.  I get on well with people and never have any difficulty making friends but cannot cope with the intensity of continous contact with people day in day out.  I feel as if I cannot breath.  Maybe it is a combination of not living with a partner for such a long time and then choosing an N who tried to drive me crazy.  I feel as if other draw the life out of me.......not sure how else to explain it so I withdraw.  I am quite sure it is about intimacy really.  Not about individuals knowing about me or my life but that long term intimacy that combines with boredom which healthy mature adults work through and accept as part of life.

Hops & Bella

Beautiful comforting words..........thank you.

Carolyn,

I sooooooooooo know it IS about one day at a time........lost sight of that now see that again.  Funny how I need to hear the same thing so many times to HEAR it.

Thank you all for your kind and generous thoughts....... glad to be back,

Axa






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Re: The scary future
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 07:06:01 AM »
Leah has just posted this up on another thread, but IMO it is very applicable here on "the scary future".  We really do not know what the future will be like.

"""Some of us worry about tomorrow and how we will manage to survive the next day. If you worry about tomorrow, you are missing what today can bring. No one has control of tomorrow and to worry about something that is out of our hands is wasting time and energy.

If you have problems with worry, you might want to remember that today is another day and thank the Lord that you are breathing. Worry is a form of selfishness, since you are anticipating a problem that may or may not occur. Some of us fear that we will go insane if our problems continue to escalate. This fear is not justifiable because you cannot predict your mind. Your mind may feel at wits ends, but you have control to handle your emotions if you reach inside your self and face your fears. """

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Re: The scary future
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 07:25:25 AM »
Axa,
I get very stressed about working too. I have always treated a job as an authority - i.e., I must stick through it no matter what. I have stayed in really bad situations because I felt it was wrong to leave. I do not do this anymore. I am realistic - I know that no real job is happy and completely comfortable. I also know there will be some fear associated with the job, but I am better able to look at the whole picture now. Yes, today is not so great, but, overall, the job is good and pays well... My last job was pleasant 90 percent of the time, which is more than I felt I could have hoped for.
On the other hand, I don't feel whole unless I am working. I identify a large part of myself through my work. A job will give you a lot of self-respect and pride as you help others and learn new skills.
Axa, I think it will just be a matter of taking the bull by the horns. I also think that you must try to stalistic as to whether the job is good or not - and if it isn't, allow yourself the out of leaving.
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