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lighter

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New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« on: February 26, 2008, 09:40:14 AM »
Has anyone learned any new tools or made some realizations about their ability to cope better, since we last discussed this?

One thing I learned years ago, was that things would be OK, even if they weren't ok. 

Faith. 

Yes, it's a spiritual thing for me.


I've had many opportunities to watch myself experience this over the last year, with more detail and understanding.

I accept the fact that I will experience great sadness and anxiety as a matter of course.... and it always passes, leaving relief and energy in it's wake.

I trust that it will pass with more certainty.... even if it's still a very messy thing... always will be a messy thing. 

It never gets any prettier, I'm afraid. 


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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 10:06:06 AM »
Please.... help the rest of us understand when you finally figure it out: )


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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 10:10:09 AM »
I've been working on letting others help me and graciously accepting both help and compliments.  It's harder than it sounds.
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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 10:25:09 AM »
I am working on enjoying life to its fullest when there are no negative behaviors happening.

And when there are, I'm trying to let go of black and white thinking and think less of "my life sucks" and more of "this shall pass".

I also was enmeshed with someone for so long (like his mini-me! He's a workaholic and I am looking around and seeing I am, too. this needs to change. I just told him I am taking a day off every week! I have literally not had a day off since the week of Christmas when I went to a funeral). so I'm trying to define my own wants and get some hobbies! I bought myself an electric violin and I'm learning to play.

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2008, 11:07:08 AM »
From experience.... I know I have to think about something that's bo9thering me, before I speak... or I never get my thoughts out the way I want to.

I used to sit and write page after page, read it then write it over again, until it was reduced down to the truth and I had it internalized to the point I could discuss it without fear of being sidetracked or confused.

Very time consuming, but necessary, when all else fails, IME. 

It sounds like you';re working on incorporating a form of this tool in a very economic user friendly daily living mindfulness, that fits in your hand at all times.

I hadn't thougth about it that way.



More likely to become a habit, then part of us, whe we can access our tools easily, at any time.

If we to hole up for 12 hours with pen and paper..... and a quart of Haagen Daaz.... it's not user friendly, is it?

Culling out the negative coping strategies that don't work for us any longer,  and replacing them with tools that help us grow and mature.

Yes yes yes: )

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2008, 11:53:43 AM »
Disciplining the mind...... very tai chi: )

Again, part of the equation is not letting ourselves react to people who are obviously yanking our chains.

Or situations, that yank our chains..... trigger us.

If I have to hear "you're problem is that you're reacting to A B C" from someone with a clear uncluttered unthreatened vantage point.... I think I'll scream. 

I'm aware of that fact, thanks.

I know this but I haven't been able to UN learn the response yet.  Rise above..... detach on command.

Or better yet..... not react at all. 

Do something else instead.

Breath.....

maybe.


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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 12:10:03 PM »
You know sometimes when you don't know what to do, speaking it aloud helps.

When you're angry with someone: "I'm feeling angry and upset and I'm not sure precisely why. Did you intend to criticize me? (or whatever)."

or when you've got that racing heart feeling, but not sure why you're even triggered - "Wow, that makes me feel upset for some reason. I need to step back and figure this out."

Sometimes speaking it aloud sort of defuses  - or begins the process of allowing your body to begin to calm itself.

Dr. John Gottman calls this feeling "flooded".

It takes at LEAST 20 mins to begin recovery. I saw this happen with myself. (In therapy he hooked up sensors so you could read your actual heart rate, respirations, etc. during flooding.)

I thought I was a person who recovered quickly from flooding, but this experience proved it took 30 mins. for me to recover bodily.

He also recommended not trying to converse about it until you are recovered physically.

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 12:17:34 PM »
Dandylife:

That explains a lot about the way I have to cycle through a crisis phase.

No matter what I do..... there I am.

No matter what I think.... there I am.

There's no escaping it, I usually sink into it with the firm knowledge that I'll be released soon enough.

And I'm never quire sure why I was released until your post.

That helps a lot.

Thanks.

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2008, 12:46:59 PM »





lighter,

Your appeal has caused me to do a review of where I am this week and the tried and true's that I've let slip through the cracks.  My effort will be to reintroduce them into my day with a deeper appreciation for them than I had when they simply slipped through the cracks.

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2008, 12:52:47 PM »
Thanks Amber, tay, dandy and tt.

Sometimes it's SO SO hard just to take a complement of allow someone to help us, Tay.  I recognize that one too.

Appreciating what's in front of us and counting our blessings, while working on everything else.... not so easy but it feels right when we can accomplish it.

::looking forward to more thoughts on the subject::

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 01:03:31 PM »
Hi Lighter,

With respect for you I'd like to add my two cents from my highly stigmatized 12 step program AA:

My feeling is that if I can get rid of ego and self then I lose half of my problems (this is the best coping device I have ever found aside from denial :wink:) How do I lose myself without losing myself...

From The BB:
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Selfishness, self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt.

So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves, and the alcoholic is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he usually doesn't think so. Above everything, we alcoholics must be rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kill us! God makes that possible. And there often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without His aid. Many of us had moral and philosophical convictions galore, but we could not live up to them even though we would have liked to. Neither could we reduce our self-centeredness much by wishing or trying on our own power. We had to have God's help.

« Last Edit: February 26, 2008, 01:12:32 PM by Gabben »

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 01:23:06 PM »
I'm not familiar with the AA bible.... but I know many who attend the program and live their lives by it.

You stated that getting rid of the ego is half the problem.

What I thought when i read that was that N's have no ego, and that seems to be the basis for their problems.

Don't read anything too deep into that comment.
 

When I think of letting expectations of self and life go.... (for myself)in order to instill some balance and peace....

it's like stepping back and shattering the world (as I want it to be and hope it can become) in favor of just accepting what is and what comes, no matter how intolerable I find it (when I hold expectations.)

 


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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 01:31:08 PM »
it's like stepping back and shattering the world (as I want it to be and hope it can become) in favor of just accepting what is and what comes, no matter how intolerable I find it (when I hold expectations.)

Hi Lighter,

Yes, I like the line above you wrote. It really does come down to expectations.  Here is another way of saying it.

"I spent most of my life doing the Serenity prayer backwards, that is, trying to change the external things over which I had no control - other people and life events mostly - and taking no responsibility (except shaming and blaming myself) for my own internal process - over which I can have some degree of control. Having some control is not a bad thing; trying to control something or somebody over which I have no control is what is dysfunctional." 
Codependence: The Dance of Wounded Souls

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 01:44:04 PM »
Dear PhoenixRising,

The book, "Destructive Emotions" focuses on that very few milliseconds you have upon being triggered and what happens from then on. Fascinating, illuminating book, if you haven't read it.

But, it talks about some buddhist monks who were proficient at meditating. They put them in a machine that does magnetic resonance + and they were able to "control their brain function" at an amazing rate.

Meditation will help you in controlling body functions, yes. Heart rate, respirations, even can help (IMO) with healing the body.

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Re: New Coping Skills for the toolbox
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 01:50:02 PM »


Meditation will help you in controlling body functions, yes. Heart rate, respirations, even can help (IMO) with healing the body.



Thanks for this -- I needed to hear it today, hopefully it will inspire me to meditate more.