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Bi-sexuality
Anonymous:
Bunny
In an ideal world, you're right. But you know what I'm going to say...so I won't :lol: . Of course you're right...and are very representative of an ever decreasing minority these days. Here in the UK, 30% of women who attended night clubs 35 years ago were not Bi-sexual. That's is in complete contrast to today's number; 30% are!
I've attempted to combine statistical divorce rates with a news papers research in order to give some air to a possible theory. I've also introduced the decline is our christian faith as having a direct impact on our moral values. Strong religious faith equals strong morals. Our christian faith has nose dived into the conrete...so have our morals and values. You just happen to be one of the few yet to give in :) .
Possessing few morals, gives way to many things. Of which girls today are rapidly re-addressing previous boundaries. These are being totally redrawn in ways that would have been totally unacceptable 35 years ago. Then, there was a difference between men and women and the rolls they played in family. Now there increasing exists and almost unisex 'Gap' culture of approaching relationships. For many it's no longer a case of being virtueous and pure...quite the opposite. By the time most couples marry these days, they will have explored a number of sexual partners and full time relationships/marriages before.
We can't ignore the additional stress's modern day relationships place upon the individual. I believe that what most women you say aspire to...don't after a period of time! I say that women deep down no longer need the security of a man in order to live their lives. I say that this is one of the main factors for women departing a marriage. I say that mostly they want to explore their lives free from pre ordained thoughts and conformity to what once was, but is no longer.
I say that women are evolving, whilst men are having to adapt! Men are slow to adapt, insecure and imature generally. Women are frightened by their men folks anger and often inability to adapt! When a women wants to exit a relationship for whatever reason, it's the male ego that she most fears from. Men are generally, absolutely crap at handling rejection! A lot of the stuff I've read on here actually refer to mens inability to accept change. This then leads to their denial and subsequent torture of their ex partner for dumping their egos.
I've referred to two relationship in my posting on here. One turned out to be with a Bi girl. Years later, I met another girl who it turned out, had a terrible childhood. Like so many things, it's only when you've got to know the person really well, when the truth starts to emerge :wink: ! The first girl was just a user. The second...well that's a sad and ongoing situation.
I've learned a lot over the years and strangely enough, I've learned to know me better. Oh yes I've focused out and onto others, but over time, I slowly started to take a good, long, hard look at myself! Some good, some not so. Where I've really grown as a person though, is in being less judgemental of others. Less biggotted and intollerent and much more open in my view.
I was programmed as a child to believe in things that whilst very moralistic....were way too narrow in practice. In dumping what I was brainwashed to accept, my eyes now see the full spectrum of colours rather than the narrow shafts of intollerance.
Onyx
Onyx:
.....and by the way Bunny, the first girl that I referred to didn't cheat! She finally accepted that she could no longer continue to deny who she was! In the end, she did us both a big favour. Many people continue to lie to each other in such circumstances for a life time! Now that's cheating :lol:
David
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---Here in the UK, 30% of women who attended night clubs 35 years ago were not Bi-sexual. That's is in complete contrast to today's number; 30% are!
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Do you only seek out women in nightclubs?
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---I've attempted to combine statistical divorce rates with a newspapers research in order to give some air to a possible theory. I've also introduced the decline is our christian faith as having a direct impact on our moral values. Strong religious faith equals strong morals. Our christian faith has nose dived into the conrete...so have our morals and values. You just happen to be one of the few yet to give in :) .!
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Statistics and theories cannot prevent you from meeting a decent woman. According to statistics, a woman my age, living where I lived, should never have found a husband. Well, I did. BTW I'm Jewish.
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---Possessing few morals, gives way to many things. Of which girls today are rapidly re-addressing previous boundaries. These are being totally redrawn in ways that would have been totally unacceptable 35 years ago. Then, there was a difference between men and women and the rolls they played in family. Now there increasing exists and almost unisex 'Gap' culture of approaching relationships. For many it's no longer a case of being virtueous and pure...quite the opposite. By the time most couples marry these days, they will have explored a number of sexual partners and full time relationships/marriages before.
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This doesn't prevent you from meeting a good woman. Unless you decide that all women are immoral floozies bisexually cavorting in nightclubs.
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---We can't ignore the additional stress's modern day relationships place upon the individual. I believe that what most women you say aspire to...don't after a period of time! I say that women deep down no longer need the security of a man in order to live their lives. I say that this is one of the main factors for women departing a marriage. I say that mostly they want to explore their lives free from pre ordained thoughts and conformity to what once was, but is no longer.
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Does this prevent you from meeting and forming a relationship with a nice woman?
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---I say that women are evolving, whilst men are having to adapt! Men are slow to adapt, insecure and imature generally. Women are frightened by their men folks anger and often inability to adapt! When a women wants to exit a relationship for whatever reason, it's the male ego that she most fears from. Men are generally, absolutely crap at handling rejection! A lot of the stuff I've read on here actually refer to mens inability to accept change. This then leads to their denial and subsequent torture of their ex partner for dumping their egos.
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I'm not sure how this affects your meeting a woman and having a relationship.
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---I've referred to two relationship in my posting on here. One turned out to be with a Bi girl. Years later, I met another girl who it turned out, had a terrible childhood. Like so many things, it's only when you've got to know the person really well, when the truth starts to emerge :wink: ! The first girl was just a user. The second...well that's a sad and ongoing situation.
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This wasn't bad luck, it was your attraction to rescuing troubled women and ignoring red flags.
--- Quote from: Anonymous ---I've learned a lot over the years and strangely enough, I've learned to know me better. Oh yes I've focused out and onto others, but over time, I slowly started to take a good, long, hard look at myself! Some good, some not so. Where I've really grown as a person though, is in being less judgemental of others. Less bigoted and intolerent and much more open in my view.
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It's good to be non-bigoted but I hope you are very choosy and discriminating when it comes to women. Do use your judgment there.
bunny
Onyx:
Honey Bunny
I'm not talking about some issue that I have; I think you're missing the point! No I don't frequent Night Clubs or have hang ups about the female gender. Yes I have had a number of relationships and yes one or two of them have got me thinking. It would appear Bunny that you have a limited ability to 'think out of the box'. I'm offering a theory, an idea, a thought...not an inability to pick up the right kind of women.
The 21st century is upon us. Facts are facts. Things ain't what they used to be...not for all of us anyway. I'm attempting to give life to a particular thought....and if you read this thread again....I'm not putting women or myself down.
It's a tread, not a problem that I have an issue with....just a thread Bunny.
:lol:
Onyx aka David
Anonymous:
Sure the 21st century is here. I thought you were using the nightclubs to prove a point about how women are now bisexual. I happen to think it's (a) a small sampling of women; (b) a very specific subset of women; and (c) 99.9% of these studies are total crap. I don't think you're putting anyone down. I saw it as simply not making much sense.
bunny
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