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Ami

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Fear
« on: April 18, 2008, 05:41:34 PM »
I have been struggling with stomach aches for a long time. They are from emotional roots.
 Yesterday, I had a day w/out them.
  Today, I have them ,again.
  Ann, my counselor, told me that they were from giving up my power. My M would not let me have any 'privacy" emotionally.I had to 'be" for her, all the time.
 She told me yesterday, how she was always angry at me and trying to hurt me b/c *I* did not take care of HER right and love her , enough.
 She admitted this, after *I* saw so many patterns that she was 'forced' to admit some truths.
  I am replaying my relationship with my M ,over and over , with other people. I want to give up and pull a Howard Hughes(lol)
 I can't do that. I have worth and value. I just have to break these fear patterns. At the root of all this must be fear.
The Bible says "Perfect Love Casts out Fear."
 IF I could 'get" how much God loves me, my shame ,fear and guilt would probably just melt.
 That will be my goal. Thanks for listening.        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 05:53:12 PM »
((((((( Ami )))))))))

Gods love for you is as deep as the ocean, without end.

I will pray, earnestly, that you catch in your spirit, the endless unconditional love that God has for you.

Love,

Leah
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Re: Fear
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 05:55:36 PM »
Thank you,Leah
 Just writing your feelings helps. I SEE that I am God's kid, NOT my M's "kid".       Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 06:02:34 PM »
I think people who grew up with N parents have enormous stores of fear.  In fact I think it's common for fear to be a motivating factor in many decisions children of Ns make, big or small.  So really, I don't think you're alone in this--a couple months ago, in fact, I made myself face at least one fear a day.  This made me recognize how much fear I was walking around with.  Little things, like going into the coffee shop--what if there's nowhere to sit, I'm afraid I'll look like an idiot.  Going to the store: what if I see someone and I don't look perfect?  Anxiety and fear and never feeling good enough.  As a child I was constantly afraid and babbling explanations about everything I said or did, even if it was nothing and nobody cared.  My NF used these opportunities to say: "the guilty flee when none pursue," trying to take my terror and add a healthy dollop of guilt on top, I mean why not?  But it helps to recognize the patterns, I think, and that's what you're doing here.   I hope it helps just to face it down!  Take care.

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Re: Fear
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 06:40:32 PM »
Thank you,Leah
 Just writing your feelings helps. I SEE that I am God's kid, NOT my M's "kid".       Love   Ami

(((( Ami ))))) you are God's precious child, remember, we are His first, because He knew us before we were in our mother's womb. 

In His arms, with love overflowing, God is our first love.

Love,

Leah

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Re: Fear
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2008, 08:01:20 PM »
I can't do that. I have worth and value. I just have to break these fear patterns. At the root of all this must be fear.
The Bible says "Perfect Love Casts out Fear."
 IF I could 'get" how much God loves me, my shame ,fear and guilt would probably just melt.

Dear Ami,

Perfect Love does cast out fear. But, the root of fear is SELF. Self can't overcome self. So the real question is how do you get rid of self?

Throughout my ordeal with N saint I have seen amazing opportunities for growth. As N saint has taken my spiritual director, which was her first hit, I learned that my pain and anguish was because of my attachments to how I was seen in his eyes and his opinions of me and appoval. Having that relationship smashed, because of her betrayal and slander, was a good thing for me. Instead of clinging I let go and went to my wounds, cried and hurt the deeper stuff behind the attachments and worked through my deep layers of victim anger.

N saint has taken my reputation and taken my ministry work which is a passion for me. My opportunities to use my gifts and talents were diminished but I learned that N saint could never take my God given gifts away.

I remember the day I got an email from her about a banquet event (power, prestige) it irked me, I felt envy....but I sat for a minute, prayed and then saw how all of my pain was rooted in selfishness and if I just gave myself over completely, gave her everything she wanted and supported her in that, without giving in to worshiping her, which is what she wants, but instead worshiped God in how He would treat someone, I could be more free from self and pain. That was the moment I began to really grow in humility. It took an enemy to teach me about love and humility, not a friend.

Instead of seeking to eliminate fear, try seeking to eliminate self, very hard....trust me. But if there is one prayer that I know that God will answer, it is "Lord, help me rid myself of self, help me grow in love for others."  And, self-respect for ourselves will follow.

God does not want us to spend all of our time trying to rewire our thinking and change our hearts on our own. We can't really do that anyway, well, we can, but it takes a long time and a lot of dedication to......drum roll............ guess what......self!

So in AA we simply confess our selfishness our fearful inclinations and then we trust God to root out self for us as we turn our attentions to others and seeking ways that we can help others.

I have not been emotionally available on this board lately because of the pain I have been in as well as I am trying to just be gentle to me. There is not a lot that I can give right now anyway. And, sometimes that is just OK.

My focus has been on simple things I enjoy, music, books, warm cups of tea, facials, walks on the beach, etc. because I know that is exactly what God wants, for me to be happy and enjoy.

Lise

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Re: Fear
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 10:34:20 PM »
But, the root of fear is SELF. Self can't overcome self.
I think about this all the time.  But God can overcome self and that keeps me alive and hopeful.

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Re: Fear
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 10:35:40 PM »
Dear Lise,
  I am glad you are doing simple ,happy things in life.     Love, Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 10:42:45 PM »
I am having the strangest times. I think I am seeing life, as it is, after all this time ,of being in a fantasy world. It is really strange.
 I feel like I will lose my mind, at times,but maybe I am getting my "right" mind back.        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Fear
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 11:00:36 PM »
maybe I am getting my "right" mind back.
You are getting back your right mind.  Don't doubt it, don't fear. 
You ARE getting back your right mind.

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Re: Fear
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 11:42:22 PM »
You are so sweet, GS. It IS very strange going from Point A to Point B. Thank you for understanding. It means so much. I will go to sleep with that good thought in my mind.
   Love   Ami
                                                                 
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Fear
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 02:18:13 PM »
Hi Lise,
How about we call her Nsinner, now?


Hi Ami,
Never mind about your mind. It's okay.
It would be crazy to not be a little crazy now.
But it's not permanent.

Hi GS,
You're such a good soul.

xo
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Re: Fear
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 03:03:11 PM »
You are sweet,((((((( Hops)))))))))               Love, Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung