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Gabben

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Edit:

In respect to Phoenix I retitled this thread and wish to acknowlege her in her victory over struggle to quit as well. This was just my personal journey. (I was hoping that Phoenix would join in).





Lise, if and when you're ready to do a thread re: your non-smoking challenges, I am interested in participating.
Since I'm still using those nic lozenges, I'm still hooked in that way - - and could surely use some help, too!


Dear Carolyn, (and others)

What I feel that has been happening is very simple, but took much time (three years of struggle), for me to get to the final conclusion and understanding of why I smoke and why I do not, and could not quit on my own.

It goes like this:

Victimized as a very small child by neglect and the denial of my emotional needs, even in the womb and the crib, I was full of hatred and anger towards my caregiver, my mom.

My mom was toxic and unable to genuinely love, therefore, the air I breathed in as a baby was toxic. Now, does that not mirror smoking as an adult?  Or, another way to put it, would be to say that smoking is an unconscious way to symbolize the untold (acting out) story of bitterness as helpless child...smokers feel helpless to stop the bitter habit, correct?

Genuine love and affection is sweet....we crave it, we crave the sweet affection we never got, instead I got bitterness, which is what smoking is...a very bitter flavor with a very bitter aftertaste.

I'm talking about symbols here...just as we dream our minds use symbols to tell us the story. Much of what I do in life, that is not rooted in love and truth and that is harmful to me and others, is some unfinished and untold story from my childhood that is finding expression through symbols, such as smoking.

The bottom line for me came when this past year as I suffered through months and months of stuffed baby rage and old buried raw pain, hurt and memories, it was the realization that I was a victim and that my sweet craving was revenge (revenge is sweet)...well that is wrong, I was hurting me to get back at them.

So, here it comes................drum roll...............I went to Christ and showed Him this, I then begged Him for Mercy and to take away, not my habit, but my desire to seek revenge and the satisfaction I was getting out of it by hurting myself. I prayed and prayed and prayed. I decided to never give up on God, He never gave up on me.

Through prayer I realized that my addiction was being separated out of me and that slowly I would lose my craving and obsession. That is exactly what is happening. It is as if I look at cigarettes and want to run from them...the self-respect is growing stronger and more powerful than the addiction. The thought to have a cigarette pops into my head, but it gets overrided by a growing solid self-respect.

God's grace can fix all, repair all, heal all and cleanse all.





« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 05:42:30 PM by Gabben »

Iphi

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Re: The quitting smoking thread (for closet smokers... & anyone else)
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 04:40:23 PM »
I am so happy you are gaining ground on the smoking Lise.  As a former smoker I fully empathize with the whole process and how we each must find our own path.

One thing I realized during my quitting work, was that for me the smoking may have had some connection with oral deprivation/lack of mothering.  We humans are wired for oral comforting, as a nursing mother I can testify I see it every day and it brings the truth home.  Smoking brings ersatz oral comfort.  It's a fundamental parallel, very powerful and I can't even really begin to assess how much of my addiction was about giving myself the oral comfort I never was given by my schizophrenic mom, unable to love or interact much. 

Reading your words about the sweetness of genuine love and affection - so life imbuing, it feeds and enlivens our souls and brings joy and zest to our daily lives - I know for a fact having lived both ways - it really hits home.

And only right this very minute does it hit me that my process of successful quitting was in tandem with acknowledging the real deprivations of my actual past instead of minimizing and denying, and beginning to mother and parent myself, including especially self-comforting and gentle self-correction. 

And I always know as a former smoker, there could always be backsliding.  Those familiar comforts, can't let the guard down in moments of temptation.  But for the most part - those moments never happen at all - only in real trigger situations that combine triggers like hunger/tired/stress/in the car.  You know, a combination of smoke cues.  So I encourage you and everyone to keep working with it toward freedom from it.  ((((Lise))))


Character, which has nothing to do with intellect or skill, can evolve only by increasing our capacity to love, and to become lovable. - Joan Grant

sKePTiKal

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This struggle winds up being different for each of us, I think. About to update my own thread...

sorry - I've been laid low with a sinus infection and the drugs are just as bad. More on that in my thread...
Success is never final, failure is never fatal.

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Hi Phoenix-

Sorry that you are suffering with sinus woes- hope you get better quickly!!!

Love,

Changing

Gabben

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Re: The quitting smoking thread (for closet smokers... & anyone else)
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 12:25:47 PM »
"And only right this very minute does it hit me that my process of successful quitting was in tandem with acknowledging the real deprivations of my actual past instead of minimizing and denying, and beginning to mother and parent myself, including especially self-comforting and gentle self-correction."


Dear Iphi,

Your words are very helpful as I have made much progress, but I have also regressed, however, I do not let that get me down. When I read this part of your post this AM I had a aha moment.

Over the past many months, because of the PTSD of N-saint, I had to begin taking really good care of myself in healthy simple ways to sooth the pain. This self-nurturing was filling and sweet and consisted of long beach walks, feeding and watching the birds near my house, hiking, long bubble baths, reading spiritual filling hopefull prayer and books, good music and softness in cozy PJ's, blankets while curling up with a cup if chamomile tea and watching a heart warming, creative foreign films, or inspiring movies.

Also, I began the habit of picking up fresh fruit and flowers at the farmers market on a weekly basis...buying flowers for myself has been a real treat that makes my inner child smile with filling joy.

The nurturing of self awakened in me a new self-respect.

Baby steps....

Lise
« Last Edit: June 12, 2008, 12:28:00 PM by Gabben »

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Ah Lise - there are many, many stories about how addiction plays out as an element of our abuse... you're entitled to yours! 

I am still recovering - and dealing with a dental emergency on top of it. I just want to make clear: I haven't quit yet. Still working on it - and making good progress.
Success is never final, failure is never fatal.

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I have not quit yet completely either...still working on it...I understand, Amber.