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Hopalong

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Re: Held Captive
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2008, 12:15:17 PM »
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Each one of us already knows the answer to her own dilemma. Often, we just don't know that we know it.

When you offer truth to someone who is deeply invested in un-knowing, her "knower" tingles.

Those tingles feel good to someone who's eager for knowledge of the truth, whether it strokes her ego or not.
But to one who's determined to invent herself as pure and pristine, it's like a whack on the funny bone.

Brilliant! I like this, Carolyn.

I might express it as offering an observation, or offering my own experience, or posing an illuminating question or such, rather than "offering truth". Just because the absolutism of "truth" leaves me wary. Or perhaps, leaves me out.

But you know where that comes from. ((((Carolyn))))

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Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."

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Re: Held Captive
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 12:18:55 PM »
Yes, I understand, Hops... you're right. That phrasing might be more universally accepted. You UU, you  :D

Love u anyhoo,

Carolyn

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Re: Held Captive
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 05:12:17 PM »
Dear Hops,

My reply before was hurried and flippant. I know that you didn't take any offense, and yet I apologize... for not taking your thoughts more seriously.
I don't ever want to "flip" past your posts.

Please allow me to give this another try...  (eek, that sounds formal... you know what I mean. Trying not to be flip again!)

A n y way...   
I really wasn't referring to religious truth, in that post... although, as you know, I do believe in only one Truth, etc, and etc in that department (and you know from whence that comes).

I really wasn't referring to other versions of false "absolute" truth, either... for instance - all the shoulds, oughts, and advisory other-suches which often masquerade as wise advice.

Actually, I was referring to a much more undeniable sort of truth...  (and this has absolutely nothing to do with this board or any member thereon or elsewhere in my personal experience; it is merely a fictional example)

For instance, when talking with someone who has zero friends/relationships, from whom people flee in terror,  and whom I've only been barely tolerating out of care and consideration (and maybe even pity) because she truly is one of the most obnoxious individuals who ever walked the face of the earth...

one undeniable truth in her case is =  "your attitude is destroying your ability to form healthy relationships".

That would be the sorta truth to which I'm referring here.  The factual sort, substantiated by volumes of evidence and personal experience.

Other illustrations available on request.

Love,
Carolyn

Hopalong

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Re: Held Captive
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2008, 05:22:37 PM »
Aha. Well that makes very good sense to me.
I hope you'll tell me that kind of truth about me when you see it.

Thanks, Carolyn, for the work of creating clarity.

You are considerate to your very cells.

love to you,
Hops
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Re: Held Captive
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2008, 05:52:24 PM »
((((((Hops)))))) Like I've said...   you've been a great teacher.   Thanks!

Love,
Carolyn