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Well . . . another week of NC
« on: June 23, 2008, 04:25:37 PM »
I mailed the letter I wrote to my mom early last week, and so far, I've heard no thing from her.  I really wasn't expecting anything.  I'm sure she's so busy playing victim that she can't be bothered by anything else.

I was sort of holding out a tiny bit of hope that she might call or contact me in some way and apologize.  I know it's not going to happen, but I want it too badly.  I haven't quite reached the stage where I'm ready to let go of the fantasy that some day she might come around and actually care. 

My partner's family visited over the weekend and I kept comparing them to my family and thinking about how they were so grateful to see their kids and just happy to spend some time together, even if it's just for a few minutes.  They didn't get huffy because we couldn't do some of the things they wanted to do.  They didn't act like they were dying to leave when they got to our house.  Even though they didn't stay long, they didn't act like they couldn't wait to leave either.  It was very strange.  They even hugged me when they left.  Very strange, at least for me.
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 04:49:01 PM »
Hi Tay...

sorry 'bout your mom. Those hopes hang on & hang on, don't they? Maybe you just don't WANT to let go. That's OK; I guess that speaks more highly your capacity to love & give more, than of her inability to return it.

Something I'm discovering about "letting go" might help. Letting go is like a 2-lane road... you let go only as you move TOWARD something else. I think.



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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 04:58:11 PM »
Dear Tayana,

I'm so sorry. Never got the response I wanted from my big letter either and there's no denying it ... it hurts.

It's not a mortal wound, though. Life goes on.

With love,
Carolyn

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 05:10:10 PM »
Hi Tayana,

It's just so hard to give up that hope eh?

And the thing is....sometimes miracles do happen!

Anyhow, sorry it didn't go that way.  It does hurt and I'm sorry you have to experience that.

 :( Sela

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 05:50:28 PM »
Amber, it is strange that even though I'm hurt, I don't feel the need to make it all up to them.  I've thought about calling my brother several times, but I haven't.  He hasn't called me either.  I have truly been very busy lately, and this week will be a busy one too.  In the past I've always felt like it was important to patch things up.  This time I don't really feel that way.  I just feel sad.

Sela, it's very hard to give up that hope.  I'm always hoping things will change, and they never do.  My son wants to go see his grandma this weekend.  I've told him he could, but he had to call her first.
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 06:18:24 PM »
I was sort of holding out a tiny bit of hope that she might call or contact me in some way and apologize.  I know it's not going to happen, but I want it too badly.  I haven't quite reached the stage where I'm ready to let go of the fantasy that some day she might come around and actually care. 

Of course you hoped she would do the right thing, the thing any normal, loving, caring, supportive, encouraging mother would do.  And of course it still hurts that she is not that mother with a true mother's heart.  I wonder if we ever truly reach a stage where were are ready to let go of the fantasy that our N parents will be loving, caring parents.  We are wired that way by nature.  But I also believe that we can go on and continue healing even though we have those natural, inborn desires for true family.

Don't be hard on yourself for hoping.  And don't be hard on yourself for holding on to the fantasy.  She has been hard enough on you for a lifetime.  Be gentle and kind and understanding of yourself.  You are doing well under very difficult circumstances. 

I'm glad you have the model of a supportive, caring family even if it stirs the heart ache of what you don't have.  But then again, it sounds as if they are ready to accept you as part of thier family - as their daughter's partner.  Perhaps you can open your heart to being part of their family and come to experience that kind of love that is missing from your own birth family.

Thanks for sharing.  My heart aches for you and for your mother who is missing all that is true and valuable in life and for all of us with N parents who have missed out on that love and support.

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 06:44:47 PM »
hi tayana,

If you feel better, more free, then this is the route for you. It is usually the best one, as Ns never change.

It is sad that it is NC with your mother, and I don't know about that, but my daughter married an N, and I lived with one, and both of us are better off having left them. She is divorced.

My eldest grandson lives with his Dad and is learning the N way. His Dad is his 'hero" and it is heart breaking because I looked after him from the time he was born until he was 4½ ....then as Ns will do, they divide and conquer, and as still my son-in-law, he banished me from his kingdom.

Grandson is now going on 22. He rode his motorcycle over 2000 miles to see people and I was on his list. As we sat and talked, I could see that he was just waiting for me to stop, so he could talk, and it was all about him. I felt badly, but said nothing. Then when I talked about those 4 ½ years, he let me talk.

He doesn't remember those times at all (and his sister was 2 , now 19) when he climbed a pine tree and I talked him down, when he heaved a sigh and I asked him what was wrong. I had put my arm around him and he said, "Oh Grumma. One day you are going to die and I am going to be so very sad!" I talked with him, about all the things he had yet to do, in life, like ride a bike, play baseball, drive a car, (he's about 3½ in here) have a girl freind, eventually get married and have little babies so I can be a Great Grumma (his pronunciation) and then when I did die I would ask God if I could be a special twinking star in the sky, so when he saw one of those special ones, that changed colours, it would be me, winking at him, then he sang "Twinkle twinkle Little Star...... " and all was okay.

To think that little boy grew up to be an N.  I told him he was "the sweetest, most senitive little boy I had ever known"....and he was. He was so Pleased to hear that, said so and that no one ever told him that.

I remember so much about his first 4½ years and her first 2, but there is a 3rd who is now 16, who I never knew, all becasue of an N father .....who owed me $55,000.00, which problem for him, I think, he thought he would get away with, but I sued him.

An N nearly destroyed my daughter, my granddaughter will not speak to him, her father, and the 16 year old is as confused as any child could be, is just only now grasping everything and doing better in school.

Oh boy I became yappy but I don't think you know this. These are children with an N parent

You have to do what is best for you.

So I was on my own without my family and an N dropped into my life. 4 years of it and I left. A therapist then told me about N-ism and it all fell into place. I am learning about all this quite late in life and realize I have an N sister, NC there.

So good luck to you, but you will likely receive different advice from different people, yet it's what's best for you that you do what you do.

Take care
Izzy
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 07:56:44 PM »
I know what you mean, Tayana.

Me too and yep, nothing changes.

Re your son:  It's so messy.  How does he feel about callling her?

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 09:10:02 PM »
Tay,
I am always amazed when my in-laws come to visit. They love me. Period. They don't scrutinize me upon entering the house to see how much weight I have lost or how neat/messy my house is. I feel totally at ease with them. We laugh, joke, tease... and none of it is hurtful or mean. I really feel good when they are around. Alternately, when my parents visit, I am stiiff, my NM comments on my diet, my decorating, the house, etc. There is nothing to really talk about. It is so "off" and I feel so uncomfortable, no matter how hard I try to relax.
It sounds like your partner has a good, normal family. You have to prepare yourself to accept that you will never have that from your family, Tayana. It is such a slap in the face. It hurts, but that is the truth that you must accept.
I try, Tay, to be so grateful that my husband's family was sent to me. I have been so happy to be part of their clan :)
Take care and keep checking in.
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 12:46:59 AM »
Hi Tayana-

You have come so far!!!! So has your son, with your help!!!!

You should be proud, and give yourself kudos, with no self doubt... A little more time and you will master this next step with equanamity, but it will come...

I love Izzy's illustrations of her time with her grandson- the special moments are what you will remember when the wrestling with Ns has long passed away...

Tay, you are awesome!!!

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 11:38:34 AM »
SS, I'm trying to be kind to myself, but I can't resist looking at the phone every day to see if there's a phone call.  Instead of feeling sad, I feel relieved.  I just cringe at the thought of talking to that woman.

Sela, my son wants to see her, but he doesn't want to call.  He says he doesn't know what to say or how she'll react.  I let it drop.

Beth, I couldn't imagine my Nmom coming to my home.  It'd be awful.  I'd have to take my quick anti-anxiety meds just to get through it.

Izzy, I think this is for the best, but I'm still a little sad about it.  I feel better not talking to them, but at the same time I miss them.

Changing, thanks.  I'm trying to look at what I've accomplished, but it's really hard for me.
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 09:33:01 PM »
It was very strange.  They even hugged me when they left.  Very strange, at least for me.




Ahhhhhh, tay.

You break my heart sometimes... out of the blue.

::holding tay by shoulders:;

You are so worthy of love and affection.

Please don't stop telling yourself that....

until you feel it in your chest.

It's true.

Lighter

and..... (((tay)))

I wish I could hug you for real.....

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 11:30:45 PM »
Thanks, Lighter.  I'd appreciate that hug.  ((((((LIghter)))))))
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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 12:40:20 PM »
Hi Tayana,

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He says he doesn't know what to say or how she'll react.

Sounds like your son feels similar stuff you feel kinda eh?  Have you mentioned this to your T?
It's tricky....what to do.

On one hand, he wants to see her but it sounds almost like he doesn't want to see her alone (just hypothesizing that if he doesn't want to call on his own.....he wouldn't want to visit on his own?  Or maybe....he's just afraid of that initial call....and all the possible backlashing....and after that....maybe he thinks a visit might be ok?).

Bottom line......if she cared.....she'd be calling him.......letting him know she misses him/wants to see him.

I think you did the right thing to let it drop.  He might be mourning the loss of whatever relationship he had with her but that might be a necessary thingy.  Better to go through that now than some other possibilites.

Tayana, you are good mother.  You may not be perfect but no one is.  Please don't tell yourself otherwise.

Sela

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Re: Well . . . another week of NC
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 05:46:33 PM »
Sela, M feels like he has to choose between me or my mom.  He feels like he has to pick a side, and we keep telling him that isn't true.  He's afraid to call because he doesn't know what she'll say.

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Bottom line......if she cared.....she'd be calling him.......letting him know she misses him/wants to see him.

That's a very good point.  She has sent him a few cards, but mostly she blames me for keeping him from her, even though I've told him he's free to call at any time.  He is afraid of being there alone with her.  He's afraid of saying something wrong, and there is a lot of "don't tell your mom" sort of things that go on.  I just don't find out about them until much later.
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